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dolstein
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:02 PM Original message |
New Donkey takes on left-wing lie that Clinton destroyed the Dem Party |
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Bono71
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Agree...the party has had one Democratic president |
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genius
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Mon Jan-10-05 07:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. The DLC is responsible for the fall of the Dem Pty but not Clinton |
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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surfermaw
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. No Clinton didn't destroy the Democrat Party |
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mattclearing
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Democrat is not an adjective. |
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TomClash
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Tue Jan-11-05 09:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
82. Thank you |
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mattclearing
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Tue Jan-11-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Anytime. People better recognize. |
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Sterling
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. the best thing that has ever happened to the Democrat party |
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mattclearing
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think Bill Clinton is an exception to that rule. |
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dolstein
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. We need ideas, not blind opposition |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. "you can't beat bad ideas with no ideas" Amen |
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Blue Wally
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Right, but add...... |
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mattclearing
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Mon Jan-10-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. It's sad that you consider the devil you don't know someone from |
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Telly Savalas
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. This bears repeating... |
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IndianaGreen
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Tue Jan-11-05 06:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
70. There is no common ground on the war. Iraq is the showstopper as... |
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DaedelusNemo
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
93. We can never have consensus on everything |
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ulysses
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. a little cognitive dissonance here, dolstein. |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Jan-11-05 01:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
67. Dolstein, in one sense you do "get it" |
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Debs
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
100. And I guess |
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Zhade
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Thu Jan-13-05 02:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
104. Yes, and Newt is a liar and cheat. |
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madfloridian
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. New Donkey is the DLC blog. It belongs to them. |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. The DLC as funded by the DFA. We're all Dems. |
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Tinoire
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. The DLC is funded by the DFA? I'd like to see your proof of that. |
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wyldwolf
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. you must have missed this thread -----> |
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Tinoire
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I just looked at it. A real pathethic attempt by DLC apologists |
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wyldwolf
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. so, how much money does one have to donate before.. |
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Selatius
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. DFA supported some DLCers, not the DLC organization itself |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Oooh, lets split hairs. |
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Selatius
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. The DLC's influence is, imho, overblown |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I think you have to have a problem with the Party and many many many Dems |
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Selatius
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Reread my post: |
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Tinoire
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. There's a huge difference between "support" and being owned by. |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. And the DFA funds DLCers. Paint it any color you want, |
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wyldwolf
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. so the answer to my question is $5000? |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Good post. |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Thats it turn another blind eye. This was more than one or two |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Its being discussed right now. DFA funds DLCers. Its a fact. |
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madfloridian
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Oh, my goodness, we learn something new everyday. LOL |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. And then theres some who never learn. |
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Sterling
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. Why don't you see that? |
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wyldwolf
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. while we're on the subject, let's debunk a few other DLC myths... |
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dolstein
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I agree, taken literally, this argument means that our |
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wyldwolf
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. much put forth here in the anti-DLC crusades... |
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DaedelusNemo
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
95. more complicated than that |
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mattclearing
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Mon Jan-10-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. I just said this above, and I'd like to hear a DLC response. |
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Geek_Girl
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. I can give a specific example |
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wyldwolf
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. anecdotal evidence... and poor |
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Geek_Girl
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I thought it was a very good Real Life example |
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wyldwolf
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. it's anecdotal |
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Geek_Girl
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. I assure my stepfather was a real person |
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Debs
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Thu Jan-13-05 02:03 AM Response to Reply #49 |
101. Confirm this |
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mattclearing
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Tue Jan-11-05 08:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
74. It would be, but most liberals saw that Bush was talking out of his ass. |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Wait a minute. I thought the anti-DLC crowd show Gore as an |
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Geek_Girl
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. maybe the anti-dlc crowd |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Fascinating. So how could Gore ran a campaign |
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Geek_Girl
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Here are some of the few things I can recall |
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Debs
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Thu Jan-13-05 02:05 AM Response to Reply #55 |
102. Oh I dont know |
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DaedelusNemo
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. It's the swingers, not the dems |
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wyldwolf
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. interesting |
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DaedelusNemo
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Tue Jan-11-05 12:58 AM Response to Reply #37 |
66. And the option is? |
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mattclearing
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Tue Jan-11-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #32 |
77. Ding ding ding ding! |
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DaedelusNemo
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #77 |
92. Right, integrity is important to people |
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CWebster
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Tue Jan-11-05 08:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
75. But the targeted group of voters was the "undecideds" |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Mon Jan-10-05 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm a great admirer |
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dolstein
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Sooner or later you're going to have to face facts |
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IndianaGreen
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Mon Jan-10-05 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
21. New Donkey = The DLC's salvo in the Democratic cultural wars |
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Edgewater_Joe
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Mon Jan-10-05 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. Yet Another New Donkey Entry That Doesn't Get It |
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Selatius
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Saying Bill Clinton sabotaged the Democratic Party sounds like a strawman |
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DaedelusNemo
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. No dollar vote without a legal vote |
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FightinNewDem
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. Very well... |
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Edgewater_Joe
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Mon Jan-10-05 11:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
64. Clarifications |
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Mon Jan-10-05 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
27. The New Donkey: "The sharp edge of the vital center" |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 08:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Why do some call themselves "fiscal conservatives." or moderates? |
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Tue Jan-11-05 05:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
69. But do they call themselves... |
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ulysses
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
47. destroyed? pshaw. |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Because they are the all powerful all knowing gods |
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ulysses
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. indeed! |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Yeah, all those dozens of DLC elected officials won |
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ulysses
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. proof positive! |
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greenohio
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Mon Jan-10-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Yeah, lets pick apart every candidate on everything |
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Tue Jan-11-05 05:37 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. ok, yes. you got me. |
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greenohio
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Tue Jan-11-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #68 |
84. So bad, bad man, who do |
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ulysses
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Tue Jan-11-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. he understands the challenges, at least. |
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greenohio
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Tue Jan-11-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. He still says |
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Wed Jan-12-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. we can't have everything, I'm told. |
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greenohio
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. "Dean isn't the Second Coming" |
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ulysses
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:05 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. yes, you are. n/t |
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Tue Jan-11-05 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
65. Self serving pabulum is self serving pabulum |
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GOPBasher
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Tue Jan-11-05 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
71. I agree about Clinton. But about Max Cleeland... |
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Tue Jan-11-05 07:45 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. That 'social liberalism'... |
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Selatius
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Tue Jan-11-05 09:06 AM Response to Reply #72 |
81. I don't think southerners are THAT bitter over 40 years ago |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:36 AM Response to Reply #81 |
91. See my post below, Mississippi is not representative of the whole south |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #72 |
90. Carter and Clinton both won southern states |
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CWebster
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Tue Jan-11-05 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
73. ...the far Left fringe... |
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Tue Jan-11-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
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Tue Jan-11-05 08:57 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Ya think? |
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Tue Jan-11-05 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
79. delete |
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Tue Jan-11-05 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
80. Who is in this 'left-wing'... |
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Tue Jan-11-05 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
83. DU needs an "anti-DLC" forum |
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DaedelusNemo
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:09 AM Response to Reply #83 |
96. How about a debate on the issues? |
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RogueTrooper
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Tue Jan-11-05 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
86. Clinton's strategy was brilliant for it's time |
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Dhalgren
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Tue Jan-11-05 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
88. I think that the sooner the Democratic Party |
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Debs
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Thu Jan-13-05 02:14 AM Response to Reply #88 |
103. Bravo |
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Tinoire
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
94. LMAO! The New Donkey??? Sounds more like the same "Old Ass" |
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