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greenohio
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:18 PM Original message |
Can we have a victory as a minority on SS? |
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Osamasux
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. Stopping private accounts as a replacement and |
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greenohio
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. What if they do that but |
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Osamasux
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I think we'd still have a victory. |
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papau
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Even better - a "compromise" where add-on private accounts via payroll |
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greenohio
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That address shrubs accounts. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. In fifteen years, SS will begin paying out more than it is taking in. |
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papau
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Well said - :-) |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Jan-12-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. And I like the elimination of the wage cap, and having investment |
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papau
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Wed Jan-12-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. LOL :-) |
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Zynx
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Thu Jan-13-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. The average economic growth rate is actually four percent since the |
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tsuki
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Thu Jan-13-05 07:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
41. I have tried to look this up. I am confused. What is the "transition |
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Jim Lane
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Fri Jan-14-05 04:39 AM Response to Reply #41 |
64. Why the "transition cost" |
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eallen
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. "This administration is not trustworthy of this kind of reform." |
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greenohio
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Do you think blocking all reform options |
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eallen
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. "We saved social security... From the Republicans!" |
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greenohio
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. It assumes a small risk. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Did supporting the prescription bill help us, politically? |
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greenohio
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. There are some who opposed |
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Coastie for Truth
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. We have to make the case - Karl Rove style |
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greenohio
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. What case should we make? |
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Coastie for Truth
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Wed Jan-12-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Attack Attack Attack |
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DaedelusNemo
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Fri Jan-14-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
56. My vote right now : eliminate wage tax and with the money from that... |
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Osamasux
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
37. Bush puts one of his arguments on this so plainly. |
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Coastie for Truth
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Thu Jan-13-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. E.J. Dionne and George Lakoff |
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Osamasux
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Thu Jan-13-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Yeah, I've been trying to take the Lakoff training. |
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JohnnyRingo
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think the fight to prevent SS theft will require some republican |
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greenohio
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Is blocking all legislation a victory... |
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papau
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. see post 10 above |
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DaedelusNemo
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Fri Jan-14-05 12:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
57. Can you elaborate on equity index funds? |
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Yupster
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Fri Jan-14-05 01:27 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. There are many equity index funds |
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Yupster
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Fri Jan-14-05 01:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
61. Disagree Papau |
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DaedelusNemo
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Fri Jan-14-05 02:05 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Are those both ways of eliminating risk? |
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JohnnyRingo
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Personally I follow the old "lock box" policy. |
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Alisa
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. God I hope so - this really scares me - |
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tokenlib
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
14. Only if enough republicans get cold feet.... |
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Osamasux
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Wed Jan-12-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Even Wall Street is balking |
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sadiesworld
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
15. A victory would look like this: |
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StephanieMarie
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
16. NPR says yes |
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tsuki
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Thu Jan-13-05 07:19 AM Response to Reply #16 |
42. I don't think we will be fighting the Repubs as much as the Dems |
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mikehiggins
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Wed Jan-12-05 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. Resist ANY change coming from the Repukes |
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w4rma
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
19. Yes. (nt) |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
22. Stopping their plans cold. |
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
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papau
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. You have discovered that for those that make more than the average, SS |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Jan-12-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. OTOH, if the accout was in the wrong stocks, you could have lost |
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wicket
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Wed Jan-12-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. "would have grown to at least $750,000 over more than 45 years" |
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JI7
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
28. we need to bring some Republicans on our side |
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CWebster
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
29. If not , it's gonna be a defeat for us all. nt |
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BurtWorm
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Wed Jan-12-05 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. You'd have to have all Democrats on board and then pressure |
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autorank
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
38. YES -- make the case; filibuster; put a hold on the legislation |
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DaedelusNemo
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Thu Jan-13-05 08:44 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. What's the 'facesaving offer'? |
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autorank
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Thu Jan-13-05 09:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Something that would benefit the system that * could sign on to. |
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eridani
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Thu Jan-13-05 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
40. You're forgetting pressure on Repug congresscritters |
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DaedelusNemo
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Thu Jan-13-05 08:47 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. How about minimum wage increase as solution to SS shortfall? ; ) /nt |
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Osamasux
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Thu Jan-13-05 10:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. That is a big part of the winning strategy. |
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NuttyFluffers
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Thu Jan-13-05 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
44. real victory, no. moral victory, yes. |
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DaedelusNemo
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Thu Jan-13-05 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
46. Eliminating cap would result in a 30% SS surplus |
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ribrepin
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Fri Jan-14-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Yep, eliminate the cap and raise the amount people can put in their 401K's |
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Thu Jan-13-05 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu Jan-13-05 09:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I smell BS |
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Green Thumb
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Thu Jan-13-05 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
49. No we can't have a victory |
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DaedelusNemo
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Fri Jan-14-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Hard turn to the left |
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theboss
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Fri Jan-14-05 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
58. Treat it the same way Repubs treated Hillarycare |
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JetCityLiberal
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Fri Jan-14-05 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
60. "we" |
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