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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:27 PM Original message |
I Really Don't Care If Most Democrats Voted for Rice |
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sampsonblk
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. That isn't perspective, that's rationalization |
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Sleepless In NY
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. I really do care that they did |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. There's No Free Pass |
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Andromeda
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
79. I expect the Democrats to rubber stamp |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
157. I Guess We'll Have to See |
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
51. I couldn't agree more with... |
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
110. What she said. |
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pokercat999
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Thu Jan-20-05 06:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
126. How can we expect anything else when |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. Please Show Me When She Unambiguously, Knowingly Lied |
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Hey you know what's dumb? |
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DenverDem
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. If she didn't KNOW she was lying then she was catastrophically incompetent |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. BUSH Is Catastrophically Incompetent |
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DenverDem
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. That doesn't mean I am going to accept any of it without fighting it. |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
158. WOW, That's About the Worst Leap of Logic I've Ever Seen |
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4MoreYearsOfHell
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
82. How's this for one? |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
159. If That's the Best We've Got, Then We're Screwed |
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sampsonblk
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
100. unambiguously? |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #100 |
160. Exactly My Point |
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sampsonblk
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Fri Jan-21-05 12:12 AM Response to Reply #160 |
182. My opinion |
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Baskabor
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Thu Jan-20-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
178. Not only a lie but perjury |
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manxkat
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. exactly! n/t |
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phusion
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. I criticize them.. |
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rawtribe
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. So we |
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CWebster
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. Sorry at this stage of the game |
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ET Awful
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. So of your list of confirmations above . . . |
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pmbryant
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. The problem isn't with Rice; it's with Bush |
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ET Awful
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Ahhhh, I guess that makes it okay to confirm her then. |
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pmbryant
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I would have voted against her myself |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. I Would Have Voted Against Her Too |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jan-20-05 07:49 AM Response to Reply #14 |
134. Buit this is a mechanism we have for fighting back against said "problem." |
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Dr Fate
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. None of them. Thats why the excuse does not fly. n/t |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. See Above |
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CWebster
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Thu Jan-20-05 07:31 AM Response to Reply #47 |
131. When did they not lie? |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #131 |
161. Prove It |
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CWebster
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Fri Jan-21-05 07:33 AM Response to Reply #161 |
184. That's not proof, that's deception |
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stray cat
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. Thanks for a great perspective post. |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Thanks |
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stubertmcfly
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
7. hmmm.... |
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jobycom
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. Problem is |
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Zhade
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. YES. This makes complete sense. |
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sunnystarr
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. I don't see what difference it makes .... |
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Laurab
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Wed Jan-19-05 08:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
90. Our party did voice their disapproval |
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Warren Stupidity
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:14 PM Response to Reply #90 |
111. an opposition party opposes the programs and policies |
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jobycom
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Thu Jan-20-05 06:50 AM Response to Reply #90 |
129. That makes no sense |
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Laurab
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Thu Jan-20-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #129 |
147. Yeah I've kind of changed my mind |
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murielm99
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
9. Thanks, DTH. |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. I Agree |
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Rowdyboy
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. Presidents get the cabinets they ask for....I learned that in |
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Tom Rinaldo
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Rice's lies, and her failure coordinating the Iraq management group |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
11. I just nominated this post for the frontpage |
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messiah
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. Democrats = Republicans thanks for letting me know once more |
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stray cat
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. Kerry and Boxer, Obama, Biden, Gore, = Frist, W, Lott. |
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messiah
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
162. Nope they equal the moderate republican party |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
55. Ralph? Is That You? |
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messiah
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
167. A Democrat that only believes in winning and does'nt care for |
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quiet.american
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. Which is it? |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
56. I Ain't Donating a Penny to the DNC |
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Malva Zebrina
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
88. and it is NOT nice to see the rest of the Democrats |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jan-20-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #88 |
136. "They make their own look like fringe..." |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #88 |
169. There Are Lots of Motives for Any Vote |
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Dr Fate
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Wed Jan-19-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. Someday Obama will be Swiftboated by the GOP/media. |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
57. We'll Have to Disagree This Time, Bud |
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CWebster
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Yessiree, we got to always be running scared |
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Warren Stupidity
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #73 |
113. exactly (NT) |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jan-20-05 07:59 AM Response to Reply #73 |
137. This is more a street gang war than the politics of JFK's or Nixon's time. |
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Dr Fate
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Thu Jan-20-05 12:56 AM Response to Reply #57 |
123. No, we agree on that one part... |
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praisethelowered
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
83. wow- that is the prediction of the decade |
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John_H
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. Of course every dem senator wants her to succed. But because |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. I'm Not Quite That Fatalistic |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:05 AM Response to Reply #59 |
139. She goes into the position in a weak position anyway. |
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hector459
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. I hope she succeeds in her "job" but not her "agenda." |
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Zhade
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. It wasn't "flawed", it was a premeditated crime. |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
63. See #41 Above |
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Warren Stupidity
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
114. good grief |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #114 |
168. Against It, as I Said in the Original Post (eom) |
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CWebster
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
26. This reminds me of the debate over the Dem chair |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Dean for DNC Chair |
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CWebster
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. You mean next time will be the time when we really ahow them, huh? |
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Wed Jan-19-05 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
27. Every Dem in the Senate should have voted NAY!!! |
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Exactly. And no dem should want her to succeed in her job. Think |
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TeacherCreature
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Agreed. They have ENDORSED this pathetic liar with their votes |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
64. It Won't Be the First Time I've Made You Sick |
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CWebster
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Thu Jan-20-05 07:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
133. Cheap shot |
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Tinoire
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Thu Jan-20-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #133 |
151. Jeez. |
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CWebster
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Thu Jan-20-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Thank you, Tinoire |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:09 AM Response to Reply #64 |
140. Very, very uncool, brother. |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #140 |
163. I Have Donated, in My Name and in Others |
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CWebster
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Fri Jan-21-05 07:39 AM Response to Reply #163 |
185. A gold star for a dollar may be worth it just to keep bullies at bay |
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TeacherCreature
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Thu Jan-20-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #64 |
148. Oh I'm so scared now!!! |
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Tinoire
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Thu Jan-20-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #64 |
150. Wow. Bookmarked. Another fine example of compassionate conservatism |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #150 |
165. Nice Try |
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hfojvt
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
29. I am glad you showed me the Clinton votes |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
65. Fair Enough |
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. I care because |
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Well said! |
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LaloCeli
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
31. The problem is |
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Agreed--and welcome to DU, Lalo! |
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
32. "most presidents usually get the cabinet they want" |
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. With more Reps on the Committee than Dems, sure she's gonna |
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. No Donation without Representation! |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
141. This president is virtually guaranteed the cabinet he wants, but |
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. Rice is different-- her track record is HORRIBLE, okay? |
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robbedvoter
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Wed Jan-19-05 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
37. OUR elected reps need to represent their consituencies |
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David Zephyr
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
43. I'm happy that there appears to be some debate coming next week. |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. I Agree |
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
44. Hope vs. Honesty |
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
46. I don't believe in rubberstamping torture and ignoring geneva |
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robbedvoter
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
50. I know you love wars. I for one don't want criminals with blood on |
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
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robbedvoter
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
84. I remember you cheering on LBN the statue toppling. Your handle |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
166. That's an Absolutely Ludicrous Statement Coming from a Clark Supporter |
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:12 AM Response to Reply #66 |
124. Deleted message |
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
53. We would be against our own values..... |
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
60. It's not Condi Rice I'm worried about |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. I'm Totally With You |
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. That's my feeling about the whole situation |
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CWebster
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Yeah, well tell that to the mother of a soldier |
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robbedvoter
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. Add the relatives of the 911 victims to that - new insult to injury |
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robbedvoter
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
85. But they'll cave on the judges too as they did before. |
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Wed Jan-19-05 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
61. The world is watching, the vote does have meaning ... |
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Riding this Donkey
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
71. I agree with DTH |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
142. "Politically correct?" What's "politically correct" about this debate? |
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DaCheat
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
75. Either way |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
170. I Agree With You on That |
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
77. I faxed this off to Obama last night: |
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Wed Jan-19-05 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
78. Excellent, well reasoned and well written post. |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #78 |
171. Thanks |
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Dr. Mullion Blasto
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
80. Picking our fights? |
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UL_Approved
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Wed Jan-19-05 09:53 PM Response to Reply #80 |
95. That is the truth |
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Warren Stupidity
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:32 PM Response to Reply #80 |
116. castrato party of eunuchs |
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CWebster
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Thu Jan-20-05 07:50 AM Response to Reply #80 |
135. The perfect post. nt |
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jaysunb
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
81. Very Good Post DTH |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
173. Thanks J |
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robbedvoter
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
86. Cheerful and not peing on furniture - Grover Norquist: |
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SleeplessinSoCal
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Wed Jan-19-05 09:36 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. Norquist isn't good as a sedative |
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robbedvoter
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:37 PM Response to Reply #94 |
105. Not meant as a sedative - on the contrary. He is right: we are out |
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Skittles
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Wed Jan-19-05 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
89. I am tired of this attitude |
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sophie996
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. from your lips ... |
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suegeo
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Wed Jan-19-05 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
91. Condi is (at best) incompetent |
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JI7
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Wed Jan-19-05 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
92. i didn't really read your post |
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Padraig18
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Wed Jan-19-05 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
93. Thank you for injecting some sanity into this debate, DTH. |
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Wed Jan-19-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. that's just the thing, dems won't EVER |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
172. We Do Need to Fight and Stand Up |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
98. I think she is wrong and dangerous, but that just goes with being |
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UL_Approved
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
99. You talk of picking our battles, but... |
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oppositionmember
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
101. On principle |
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DrGonzoLives
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
102. Finally, a voice of intelligence |
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NightOwwl
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Thu Jan-20-05 12:04 AM Response to Reply #102 |
121. I don't give a flying fuck about being called "nasty" and "childish" |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:35 AM Response to Reply #121 |
146. Why do we try to please the OPPOSITION? Is this how we are |
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seaglass
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
103. I like your perspective and agree for the most part. thanks. n/t |
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mark414
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
104. well put |
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robbedvoter
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
106. NO LONGER BUSINESS AS USUAL: no more 2 parties, checks&balances |
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DrGonzoLives
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Wed Jan-19-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Amazing! |
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robbedvoter
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. No dear. The votes are meaningless - but for the principle. |
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Daybreaker
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
109. But she's going to be a BAD Secretary of State. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Agree. As I said above, Powell had the trust of foreign leaders |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #109 |
174. Even Though It's One That I Share |
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MellowOne
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
115. What she did is unexcusable |
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hansolsen
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
117. We will lose every election until this line of reasoning is rejected. N/T |
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xray s
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
118. What I would like to know |
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Mynameissalvatore
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
119. I respectfully disagree |
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FubarFly
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Wed Jan-19-05 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
120. Hey, I like to dance as much as the next Democrat, |
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IronLionZion
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Thu Jan-20-05 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
122. Fine, but we can all thank Senators Kerry and Boxer |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #122 |
176. Absolutely Right |
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cyclezealot
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Thu Jan-20-05 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
125. Don't you know when you hear bs. |
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ComerPerro
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Thu Jan-20-05 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
127. Great point, especially about Obama. One disagreement, though |
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CWebster
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Thu Jan-20-05 06:59 AM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Of course it will happen |
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Ganja Ninja
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Thu Jan-20-05 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
128. So at what point do you consider a persons past ... |
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Disturbed
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Thu Jan-20-05 07:33 AM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Why have hearings? |
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muchacho
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
138. Rice is being rewarded for negligence and incompetence |
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porkrind
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
143. Disagree |
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NicRic
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
144. Birds of a feather |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
145. It's just a filibuster and a vote, for God's sake, why NOT push it? |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #145 |
175. Because the Filibuster Is Like the Nuclear Bomb |
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DrGonzoLives
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Thu Jan-20-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #145 |
180. Question |
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blondeatlast
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Fri Jan-21-05 07:42 AM Response to Reply #180 |
186. We need to fight back against the "obstructionist" label. |
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GoBlue
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Thu Jan-20-05 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
149. Incredibly naive |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #149 |
177. Maybe to a Shrill Few |
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blondeatlast
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Fri Jan-21-05 07:47 AM Response to Reply #177 |
187. I've lost no respect for him, he's young and inexperienced. |
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DrGonzoLives
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Thu Jan-20-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #149 |
181. How long has he been in the Senate? |
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Bluesage
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Thu Jan-20-05 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
153. The Time is Now |
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NightOwwl
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Thu Jan-20-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #153 |
179. I agree 100% |
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Fri Jan-21-05 07:13 AM Response to Reply #153 |
183. I agree 100% |
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loritooker
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Thu Jan-20-05 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
154. "Wishing ain't having". Obama should know this. nt |
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Thu Jan-20-05 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
155. "A moment of resistance, a lifetime of capitualtion."...John Stewart |
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Spazito
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Thu Jan-20-05 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
156. In reading your constitution, I failed to find any words that said.... |
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Zynx
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Thu Jan-20-05 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
164. Of course we won't like any of Bush's appointees. |
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Fri Jan-21-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #164 |
188. Incompetence isn't a reason? |
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