Dean is the next Mahatma Gandhi

[Hoppin_Mad]

Gandhi said :

- edit spelling ! -


"Be the change you want to see in the world."

"Permanent good can never be the outcome of untruth and violence."

"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong."

"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever."

"The things that will destroy us are: politics without principle; pleasure without conscience; wealth without work; knowledge without character; business without morality; science without humanity; and worship without sacrifice."

"Honest disagreement is often a good sign of progress."

"Whenever you are confronted with an opponent, conquer him with love."

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

"Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right."

These things could have come out of DEAN'S mouth ( except they didn't )

In my many months of studying Dr Howard Dean, I conclude he is the most Gandhi-like of all the top tier candidates. ( DK excluded )

I hope you all will agree.

Namaste

Hoppin_Peace

[Walt Starr]

1. Interesting similarities

Thanks, Hoppin'

[Paulie]

2. Sorry, this is absurd

DK Excluded??? Figures!

[Walt Starr]

4. No more absurd than Clark as Jefferson, I guess

:shrug:

[tishaLA]

8. You are correct

[Hoppin_Mad]

7. Vegans were excluded - Just didn't seem fair to let them in -nt-

[BobbyJay]

3. ...step away from the computer

[EllieDem]

6. Did he used to work at a gas station?

as Hillary Clinton informed us??!!

[Dookus]

5. Yes

I suppose it COULD come out of his mouth.

But it would sound more like "YEEEAARRRGHH!"

This is a silly thread.

[LuminousX]

10. Why is it silly?

While I don't think Dean actually will be the next Gandhi, the sentiments quoted here are very much in tune with the Dean campaign.

So why is it silly to highlight the ideals contained in the Dean campaign by drawing upon the wisdom of Gandhi?

What do you have against Gandhi, anyway?

[Paulie]

15. This has to do with DEAN speaking like Gandhi

And maybe he does, when Kucinich is EXCLUDED.

I thought Kucinich was the new age canidate.... Mr. Dean, either stop stealing from the Kucinich campaign, or just do it and vote Kucinich and be done with it. :) ;) :P

[FreeperSlayer]

11. LOL!

eom

[mitchum]

9. No he's Mahatma Rice

very white and in hot water

[beaconess]

24. rofl!

[windansea]

29. please!!!!!!!!!!

I'm drinking expensive wine here!!!

[madrchsod]

12. no..

no he is not

[WilliamPitt]

13. Ghandi: "Be the change you want to see in the world. YYEEEAAAAGHHH!!!"

:)

[newsguyatl]

18. where ya been will?

hadn't seen your handle around in a while... that is, until kerry won iowa. :shrug:

[WilliamPitt]

21. Do a search to explore your wrongness

[Walt Starr]

23. I noticed the same thing

so I'm writing a web page...

[liberalnurse]

22. The" Peanut Gallery" is not the best seat in the house.

I am indeed angry and want my country back.

The insight of Gandhi apparently is seen only by those who choose to look.

[goodhue]

14. Kucinich is the 2003 recipient of the Gandhi peace award

http://www.pepeace.org/tmpl/gandhi.html

The Gandhi Peace Award is a certificate, calligraphed with an inscription summing up the work for peace of a distinguished citizen of the world. It is a medallion featuring the profile of Mohandas K. Gandhi, with his words "Love Ever Suffers/Never Revenges Itself" cast in bronze. It is a nameplate on a weighty carved statue of the Mahatma. It is a ceremony held approximately once a year, at which a distinguished peacemaker is recognized and given the opportunity to present a message of challenge and hope. It is to be awarded "for contributions made in the promotion of international peace and good will."

Like all of the perennial activities of Promoting Enduring Peace (PEP), the Gandhi Peace Award was conceived by the organization's founder, Dr. Jerome Davis, in the late nineteen forties. At the Board of Director's meeting on March 13, 1959, he formally proposed that a yearly award be given to persons outstanding in their work for world peace.

A famous New York sculptor, Don Benaron/Katz, was commissioned to create a work of art to serve as the symbol of the Award. He researched Gandhi at the library of the India House in New York City and by 1960 had carved a striking portrait of the founder of the century's international movement for nonviolent change. He wrote, "I carved the Gujarati word for peace on one side, and on the other a symbolic plowshare and pruning hook Ð inspired by Isaiah 2:4":

They shall beat their swords into plowshares;
And their spears into pruning hooks;
Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
Neither shall they learn war any more.

(excerpted from "In Gandhi's Footsteps: The Gandhi Peace Awards" by James van Pelt, 1997-2002.)

Recipients of the Gandhi Peace Award:

Eleanor Roosevelt
The Rev. Dr. Edwin T. Dahlberg
Rabbi Maurice Eisendrath
The Rev. John Haynes Holmes
Dr. Linus C. Pauling
James Paul Warburg
Dr. E. Stanley Jones
A.J. Muste
Norman Thomas
Jerome Davis
The Rev. William Sloane Coffin, Jr.
Dr. Benjamin Spock
Senator Wayne Morse
Dr. Willard Uphaus
U Thant
Dorothy Day
Dr. Daniel Ellsberg
Peter Benenson and
Martin Ennals Prof. Roland Bainton
Dr. Helen Caldicott
Dr. Corliss Lamont
Randall Watson Forsberg
Robert Jay Lifton
Dr. Kay Camp
Dr. Bernard Lown
Prof. John Somerville
Cesar Chavez
Marian Wright Edelman
Senator George McGovern
Ramsey Clark
The Rev. Lucius Walker, Jr.
Father Roy Bourgeois
Edith Ballantyne
The New Haven/Leon Sister City Project
Howard and Alice Frazier
Michael True and NEPSA

The 2003 recipient is Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio)

Dennis Kucinich’s Acceptance Speech for the 2003 Gandhi Peace Award

http://www.kucinich.us/speeches/speech20.php

[Paulie]

19. No Dr. Dean???

Ooops, there he ISN'T! :D

[AnAmerican]

25. Better watch it goodhue

There are some here that find the truth a tad bit too painful

Thanks for your post :)

[goodhue]

26. Its okay

They merely ignore the truth that would set them free.

[Hoppin_Mad]

28. Yes - But vegans have an unfair advantage

so I had to exclude him from my study.

How bout this ? Dr Howard Dean has the highest GQ ( Gandhi Quotient ) of any of the meat eating candidates studied in Hoppin Peace's Gandhi Awards 2004.

[LWolf]

31. Arun Gandhi has also

endorsed Dennis:

Arun Gandhi
I am happy to support Dennis Kucinich because I believe he is our only hope. Never before has it been so important that the nation rally around one candidate as today. This nation has been hijacked by right-wing politicians who are leading us on to certain disaster. Dennis Kucinich with his progressive policies and love for peace is the only candidate who can bring us back from the brink.

Arun Gandhi

For information purposes only:
Arun Gandhi, the grandson of Mohandas K. Gandhi, is Founder and President of the M. K. Gandhi Institute of Nonviolence in Tennessee.

http://www.kucinich.us/endorsements/endorsements/arun-gandhi.php

[KoKo]

32. Hey I'm Dean/Kucinich! They are both Ghandiesque (is that a word?)

But, yes, they lit a candle to those of us in the dark who had NO voice and showed us a way through the darkness. For that, alone I will always be grateful to both of them. True heros who stood up and took a chance.

I dont' think their light will dim...It ain't over 'til it's over.

[kerryistheanswer]

16. This is very offensive - learn how to spell

His name is Gandhi and Howard Dean is no Gandhi.

And please don't make gas station jokes. Its enought that Hillary made that offensive remark but to patronize one of the greatest beings ever is disrespectful and offensive to the South Asian community.

[Hoppin_Mad]

30. Thanks for the spelling tip !

[KoKo]

33. But America is the New South Asian Community! We are victims of

the Colonialist PNAC/BFEE! Help....let us out! Ghandi is sorely needed wherever there is opression by Colonialists/Corporatists who oppress people whever in the world. You should be proud that we look for a Ghandi! BTW: I learned to spell it as Ghandi......way back in the old days. Sorry. My textbooks hadn't been updated or something.....

[KoKo]

17. Yes! if anyone really took the time to listen to his speech last night

one could say he might be Ghandi to some of us! His message to those who worked so hard for him and he knew would be disappointed was Ghandi in his early years when he knew he was up agains insurmountable odds, but he kept on and his message grew and grew amongst the "common folks," who would then battle "THE CHOSEN." If you get my drift.

[cthrumatrix]

20. he's right again....and his speech today was great...he's the real deal.

[Nederland]

27. Somehow

I feel that Dean lacks that pacifist, Buddhist quality that Gandhi had. I don't know, perhaps its because...

HE SCREAMS ALL THE TIME????

I don't mean to be rude, but have you seriously ever listened to one of Gandhi's speeches and compared it to Dean's style? Ever?

[tishaLA]

34. Red is the new orange

[Nicholas_J]

35. Yes I can just hear Gandhi making this statement

FTN - 09/29/02
WASHINGTON



DEAN: Sure, I think the Democrats have pushed him into that position and the Congress, and I think that's a good thing. And I think he is trying to do that. We still get these bellicose statements.

Look, it's very simple. Here's what we ought to have done. We should have gone to the U.N. Security Council. We should have asked for a resolution to allow the inspectors back in with no pre-conditions. And then we should have given them a deadline saying "If you don't do this, say, within 60 days, we will reserve our right as Americans to defend ourselves and we will go into Iraq."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/30/ftn/printable523726.shtml

[hippywife]

36. Now that I've picked myself up off the floor

from laughing so hard!! Yeah, right! :eyes:

[corporatewhore]

37. havent alotta of his supporters said that dean was never a dove

on this bord and that he isnt anti war he is just anti bullshit war
I also think that ghandi would not have gotten an a rating from the nra