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Freddie Stubbs
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Sun Jan-30-05 03:36 PM Original message |
Soros Says Kerry's Failings Undermined Campaign Against Bush |
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politicasista
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Sun Jan-30-05 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks alot Kerry campaign |
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salin
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Sun Jan-30-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Sadly what Soros is missing |
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googly
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Sun Jan-30-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Dean was by far the best candidate....but he got murdered by the media |
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Orangepeel
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Sun Jan-30-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. if the "best candidate" got murdered by the media in the primary... |
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Cheswick2.0
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. oh come on orangepeel...please face facts |
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flpoljunkie
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Dean and the Deaniacs lost Iowa all by themselves, Cheswick. JK won Iowa |
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mdmc
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. DFA fked up in IA, and never recovered |
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flpoljunkie
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. JK did not run as a "liberal" altho convention "war hero" emphasis mistake |
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mdmc
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. he also didn't run as a millionaire |
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flpoljunkie
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. What is your point? They were mostly millionaires, Dean included. |
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mdmc
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. the point - he didn't run as a liberal, millionaire, anti war hero |
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flpoljunkie
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I would suggest you not go into the campaign consultant business. |
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mdmc
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Mon Jan-31-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
71. consulting , no |
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mdmc
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Wed Feb-02-05 09:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
87. we have no great minds on our side... |
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IndianaGreen
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Mon Jan-31-05 07:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
69. Kerry's money is measured in the Billions |
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Orangepeel
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. What facts? |
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CTLawGuy
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Sun Jan-30-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. the issue that killed Dean |
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Mark H
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Sun Jan-30-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. If you recall |
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Orangepeel
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Mon Jan-31-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. eh, maybe |
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CTLawGuy
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Tue Feb-01-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. no, |
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kerrygoddess
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. The Kerry campaign was confident that they had Iowa |
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mdmc
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. but Bush knew what to hit Kerry with |
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Adelante
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Tue Feb-01-05 09:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
74. This is absolutely true |
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Sun Jan-30-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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marcologico
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Mon Jan-31-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
62. Bingo! n/t |
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Dover
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Sun Jan-30-05 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. While I agree with Soros about Kerry being true to who he is...... |
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Just Me
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Sun Jan-30-05 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. '' Democrats need to counter ``a very effective conservative message,... |
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LittleClarkie
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. He talked about modernizing today |
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Sun Jan-30-05 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
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Cheswick2.0
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Sun Jan-30-05 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. I heard Soros speak last summer |
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TomClash
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Sun Jan-30-05 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. What crap. |
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blm
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Sun Jan-30-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Plus, the media was out to define ANY Democratic nominee as weak next to |
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flpoljunkie
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. A functioning media would have noticed Dubya was "nekid." |
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JoshK
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Sun Jan-30-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Responses to points you raise -- |
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TomClash
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Dennis Kucinich would not have won |
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JoshK
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. More responses to points you raise -- |
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TomClash
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Sun Jan-30-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. This analysis is inept |
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JoshK
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Sun Jan-30-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. By your logic, no candidate can ever oppose an immoral war. |
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TomClash
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Sun Jan-30-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. Spineless and Contemptible Losers? |
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JoshK
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Sun Jan-30-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I don't think it's "always" about having the greatest principles, but |
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TomClash
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Mon Jan-31-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. You ignore several facts |
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Sick_of_Rethuggery
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Tue Feb-01-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
80. Brilliant points all. |
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Cheswick2.0
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Sun Jan-30-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Rosenthal is wrong |
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TomClash
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Then why didn't Kucinich get the nomiantion? |
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no name no slogan
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Tue Feb-01-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
84. He didn't have a billionaire wife, for one, ... |
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LittleClarkie
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Tue Feb-01-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. What was the billionare wife doing that I haven't heard about |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Right!! Kerry played a good game. He ran right to get the nomination, |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Kerry was weak on Iraq. He gave the issue to Bush by caving. |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Tough issue to campaign on. |
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TLM
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Tue Feb-01-05 09:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
75. Tightrope walk? |
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marcologico
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Tue Feb-01-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. $14 mil, and it's that much less he'll need in three years. n/t |
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TLM
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Tue Feb-01-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. What, so he can lose again? He could spend NOTHING and do that. |
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Democrat Dragon
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Sun Jan-30-05 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. Waddaminit...Is Soros a businessman? |
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LittleClarkie
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Sun Jan-30-05 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
23. Gotta love the finger pointing |
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montana500
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
27. Soros needs to put his money where his mouth is... |
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Contrary1
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Nah...all Soros really needs to buy |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-30-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
50. Damn good idea. If GOP types have one weakness, it's greed. |
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Hippo_Tron
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Mon Jan-31-05 01:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
63. Repukes would just buy from another equally bad company |
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BlueInRed
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. Can you imagine a Bill Clinton campaign with Soros $ (in contrast to 04) |
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bklyncowgirl
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
34. All candidates are flawed candidates. |
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DemDogs
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Sun Jan-30-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. True enough |
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zulchzulu
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
40. Soros could have helped out a little with the Swifty bullshit...but... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Kerry could have helped with the swiftboob bunch..but.. |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. He'd have been a bigger target if he'd talked sense. Welcome to America. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sun Jan-30-05 09:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. So, he played the BS card and lost. |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-30-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Except that it's also the issue Bush WON on, don't forget -- 9/11 |
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zulchzulu
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Sun Jan-30-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. So being the "anti-war hero" thing in a time of war would've been better |
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sampsonblk
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Isn't this an outrage? |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-31-05 03:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
65. Was that your attitude during the campaign? |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-31-05 03:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
66. He and moveon.org were doing their own thing really |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
41. Soros is right. Kerry ran away from the issues that mattered. |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Wrong, he won the primaries and half the country in the GE. |
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CTLawGuy
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Sun Jan-30-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. no, he |
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TLM
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Tue Feb-01-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #49 |
77. Wrong... can't win anything when you take a dive. |
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karynnj
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Tue Feb-01-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. The idea that Kerry didn't want to win is ridiculous |
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TLM
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Tue Feb-01-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. wanting to win and TRYING to win are two different things. |
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karynnj
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Tue Feb-01-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. I think he tried |
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Sun Jan-30-05 09:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
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sampsonblk
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
44. Duh! This isn't even news, is it? |
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sarahlee
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Sun Jan-30-05 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
45. Gotta say |
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zulchzulu
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Sun Jan-30-05 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
58. Soros has the money but not the political foresight |
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ProgressiveDepot.com
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Sun Jan-30-05 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
61. Everybody's Got a Theory, Who But Kerry Really Had A Shot at Winning? n/t |
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whirlygigspin
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Mon Jan-31-05 03:16 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. lessons for next time |
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CWebster
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Mon Jan-31-05 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
67. True |
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IndianaGreen
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Mon Jan-31-05 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
68. I will say that it was Soros's money that corrupted the process |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Tue Feb-01-05 08:33 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Is there any evidence that Kerry changed ANY of his policy positions |
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theboss
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Tue Feb-01-05 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
78. Some good points, but I still don't fully trust Soros |
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