VOINOVICH VOTING YES!!! HE TRICKED US!!

[FinallyStartingToWin]

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT

[Botany]

1. Yes! ...... No!

:bounce:

Weasel ass little shit .......
Bad guy but I do not want to force my will on the President.

CYA cover your ass George

[SharonRB]

25. Hey, Botany

Just heard you on the SM show again.

Do you believe Voinovich -- gets us all excited and then pulls that shit.

[Teaser]

2. Your keyboard to ...

God's monitor.

[aquart]

3. But has it actually happened?

I'll believe it when it does.

[Roxy66]

8. Are you listening to him?...he's tearing him apart

[spooky3]

10. A GREAT speech! Go Voinovich! "I believe Bolton would have been FIRED

if he worked for a major corporation."

[spooky3]

12. oh no, he wants to send the nomination to the senate WITHOUT a rec-

commendation

[supernova]

4. Oh God! I hope, hope HOPE!

Oh let it be true!

[sniffa]

5. yes and let's start 10 different threads about it

[FinallyStartingToWin]

7. And yet, this is the only one I see on it

:eyes:

[annabanana]

11. look around.. and welcome to DU

:toast:

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[FinallyStartingToWin]

24. I know it just fine.

At the time, there was no thread yet on the high probability he was voting no. I was excited and wanted to get the joy going. Course, in the end he was misleading and is sending it to the floor, but nonetheless at the time there was no other thread in GDP specifically about the probability of the No vote.

:hi:

[Roxy66]

6. I'm watching now!!!! Wow...finally a sane voice!!

[gavodotcom]

9. WTF with Fox?

I swear they just said he would vote for Bolton under the "Fox News Alert!"

[Roxy66]

14. How did they know...before he said it!!!!??????

[OzarkDem]

22. Voino close to the WH

Its a kabuki dance they've orchestrated in advance - they all know the outcome - Bolton will be approved.

[Robbien]

27. They have been running attack ads against Voinovich and

all other Republican Senators who have said they were on the fence about Bolton. The attack ads didn't stop until the Senators finally caved.

So yes, they knew in advance how the vote would go.

[Clark2008]

30. Because Faux is used to all the Republicans towing the

Bush line.

They didn't think that one of them might have the balls to say, "NO!" (Kind of like the Party of No, I suppose. :7)

[Roxy66]

13. He's sending it the floor?!!! WTF

[Skidmore]

15. He's sending it to the floor. It's a "Hail, Mary" pass

and he's hoping that other step up with him. He's not going to stick his neck out. Don't be so ready to commend him for anything other than stating the obvious about Bolton.

[OzarkDem]

19. SOP for Voinovich

When its convenient, he plays the "independent" card, but only if he knows what he's pretending to oppose will pass anyway.

If he's coming out against his party, rest assured he's only doing it if he knows his action won't change the outcome.

[annabanana]

17. WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION

I knew this would happen after
1) Lugar insisted that Voinovich go next
and
2) Voinovich tore into Bolton...

[MaineDem]

16. Make up your mind...and welcome to DU (nt)

[Edgewater_Joe]

18. So The Vote's Going To Be 9-9-1? Doesn't That Kill It?

Please clarify, someone who knows Senate rules ...

[FinallyStartingToWin]

20. It would be 9-8-1 n/t

[Idioteque]

23. Here's how it works...

Lugar will move to send it to the floor WITH reccommendation. That will fail 9-9.

Then he will ask to send the nomination WITHOUT reccommendation. That will pass party line.

So essentially, Voiny thinks he should get an up or down vote but doesn't support his nomination.

[pgh_dem]

26. think there should be a DU smiley for this

Could be a cassandra complex smiley, somehow indicating a joyless 'told you so'.

V never gave a crap about this, he was covering for Chafee. V won't be up for relection until 2010. His moves run political interference so Chafee isn't seen as a * rubber stamp, but still gets Yosemite Sam into the job, and keeps Chafee in the GOP fundraising trough.

[Guaranteed]

28. You guys got your hopes up?

You KNEW what he was doing. He was bargaining.

[trof]

32. I feel like Charlie Brown when Lucy pulls the football away

at the last second.
When will I ever learn?

[trof]

29. Voinovich's contact page:

http://voinovich.senate.gov/contact/index.htm

[Skidmore]

31. How exactly did he trick us?

I fully expected him to find a way to keep from having * and Co come down on him.

[OzarkDem]

33. Voino doesn't need help

from the WH and he's fairly immune from any negative repercussions if he goes against his party. He has nothing to lose if he opposed them.

Those of us who live in Ohio have seen him do this countless times. He gets by with it every time. He's just posing in order to shore up support from independent voters here.

On edit: Voino just finished spending the last week or so in Eastern Europe, he's probably met with Bushco/Condi & Rove to work out the details.

[Richardson08]

34. Let them have Bolton.It will only embarrass the administration even more

[Lerkfish]

35. no, look at the bigger picture

1. Bolton confirmed
2. Bolton ramrods through sanctions against Iran's nuke programs
3. Bolton ramrods through justifications to invade
4. WWIV.
5. Lather, rinse, repeat with Syria
6. Lather, rinse, repeat with Venezuela
7. Lather, rinse, repeat with the rest of Opec

[sjr5740]

36. Asshole should just abstain

if he has so many reservations....