Reuters: "Democrats urge Bush to fire Rove in leak scandal"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-07-11T220330Z_01_N11512522_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-BUSH-LEAK-DC.XML

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House faced mounting Democratic calls for President Bush to sideline or fire his top political aide Karl Rove on Monday over his involvement in a CIA leak scandal.

After publicly defending Rove two years ago, the White House responded to the barrage by saying it would not comment at the request of the prosecutors investigating who leaked the identify of CIA agent Valerie Plame.

"The White House promised if anyone was involved in the Valerie Plame affair, they would no longer be in this administration. I trust they will follow through on this pledge," Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said.

Other Democrats urged Bush to sideline Rove by suspending his access to classified information and said the deputy White House chief of staff should "clear the air" by answering questions from Congress. Another lawmaker said the intentional disclosure of a covert agent's identity amounted to an "act of treason."

[ThoughtCriminal]

1. He needs to "Spend more time with his family" - nt

[Turbineguy]

17. Are you saying

his family is already in prison?

[ronnykmarshall]

2. I wanna see him fry!

[UCLA Dem]

3. Yes! Lets bring down KKKarl once and for all!!! Go Dems Go!!

[ktowntennesseedem]

34. I say leave him alone for now; let his BS infect the whole lot.

Let him stick around the White House under a protective shield of denials, while the "mean ol' libruls" keep the accusations, and the investigation, flying high. Then after a while, there will be enough shit on KKKarl brought out into the light of truth that we can not only bring him down, but bring down the whole gang.

At least that's my dream-of-the-moment. The fact that the WH is taking the "no-comment" approach makes me think they will soon disown their former buddy and throw him to the wolves; their present silence is just their way of waiting to see how this plays out in the short-term, and to find a way to weasel out of the mess with the least possible fallout.

Still, it's getting interesting!

[Stevious]

4. Off with his head!

:nuke:

We'll miss you KKKarl.

:nopity:

[marmar]

21. Truly...

I think the only way to get rid of him would be to put a stake or silver bullet through him.

:evilgrin:

[savemefromdumbya]

5. They should also include Bush and Cheney

it's time Mr President....do you want to resign now or later?

[LibDemAlways]

6. Watch for Rove to step down citing

"family reasons" simultaneously with the chimp issuing him a "full pardon" at midnight on the Sunday of Labor Day weekend.

[TahitiNut]

7. Firing is nowhere nearly enough!

Crimes and violations of the public trust of this magnitude and all they can say is that Rove sould lose his job?? Shit! That should've happened as soon as the leaks emerged, along with Card and other senior staffers that couldn't manage to keep on the right sid of the law!

You can bet your sweet ass that any lowly working American would've had his butt canned long ago for far less.

[Blue Gardener]

8. More

"It is time for the President to keep his word. Karl Rove should be fired and prosecuted to the full extent of the law," said Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York."

Fired AND prosecuted. That's what should happen, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen.

[JohnnyBoots]

16. That's exactly how to play it, use his words-on record- against W

[MadisonProgressive]

9. HOO! This is starting to get good!!!!!

[KittyWampus]

10. Revoke Rove's Security Clearance & Shut Him Out Of Classified Meetings

"The president should immediately suspend Karl Rove's security clearances and shut him down by shutting him out of classified meetings or discussions," said Sen. Frank Lautenberg (news, bio, voting record), a New Jersey Democrat.

[ProudDad]

11. No! Don't fire him!

Let him sit there in the White House festering, oozing his puss all over the bushies who surround and protect his little "turd blossom" ass.

Let him twist in the wind.

Keep him in the White House where he won't bother polite society with his brand of fascist propoganda.

Please....


If not, get him into the slammer QUICK. You all know the chimp will pardon him in Jan. '09 if he's not locked away before then.

Quick...

[progressoid]

19. Thats a variation of my view...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4075323&mesg_id=4075323

I'm not sure that is such a good idea. Firing him now is too easy. I say let the turd rot a while. Let him stink up the White House so much that they are still airing the place out while we run away with the 2006 election.

The longer they hold hands with this steaming pile, the better. The WH is already feeling the effects of being a lame duck, if Rovegate slows them down even more - great. We keep the pressure on but keep him on the payroll to link him to shrub until the end.

[bagimin]

12. I think we needed this BEFORE the election n/t

[deadparrot]

13. Kick for some Dem unity.

:kick:

[Mr_Spock]

14. I'm unlikely to miss him much.

He didn't play nicely in the sand box :D

[Trevelyan]

39. A Post from Yahoo Group - Skinning the Fox.com Fox Advertisers

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bush_Sucks_A_S_S_on_Terrorism/yguid=187313086

~~~

George Bush is a suck a_s_s president when it comes to fighting terrorism. Bush has always taken slow indecisive action to fight real terrorists… and your butts are less safe because of it. Don’t be fooled by Flip Flop O’Really and his crony Ann Coulter. Dividing the country now with lies will only help the real “terrorists.” Osama Bin Laden and the dictators of the world are happy to see Bush win a second term. Dictators have already endorsed Bush!

Think back, you saw how fast Bush read “My Pet Goat,” and the rest of the world sees bush's lack of accomplishments, even if you can't. You lived through the effects of terror. Many were near enough to the Pentagon when the plane hit that it felt like an earthquake to them. I never ever want to see some a_s_s hole read “My Pet Goat” again while the nation is “under attack.”

I feel deep in my heart that anyone could have done a better job than Bush. How can mere words of a man who perjured himself and those holding flip flop records counter actual great deeds of people like Sen.Ted Kennedy and Howard Dean? The fight against terrorism is not over and we must never forget what happened and never let it happen again. Bush definitely was and is the wrong man for the job.
:+ :+

[wallwriter]

15. This can only get worse for Rove.

Let's enjoy it while we can...

[TheGoodCitizen]

18. At least he's been "urged"

[TankLV]

20. God forbid we should even think of "demanding" something.

It might make us look bad - to repukes!

[Dangerously Amused]

22. Thing is...

Bush can "fire" Rove all he wants, and it will be symbolic only. Rove will start up a political lobbying/consulting firm exploiting his government ties and make scads of money, and will still advise Bush from the wings on a daily basis just as he always has. It just won't be official, is all.

Didn't I read somewhere that Rove was "fired" by Poppy Bush for leaks back in the day? Just goes to show that firing Rove carries no deterent effect whatsoever.

I hope the prosecutor uses those prior acts as a basis to establish knowledge (of the law) and intent (to leak).

[u2spirit]

30. He can be fired and sent to jail

There are some who are thinking that if he gets the pink slip, he will avoid the pokey. He may avoid the pokey anyway, but the 2 are not mutually exclusive. My gut tells me that Shrubco is hesitant to do anything with him. He knows where all of the bodies are buried, so to speak. He is just cowardly enough to squeal like a pig if he feels like he's getting ready to be thrown overboard. Rove may be the one that dies in the small plane crash or of a heart attack within the next 2 weeks.

[ClintonTyree]

33. He'd never rat out......

his pals, his creations. KKKarl's the chief Zombie in the bush administration's "Club Zombie". They all walk together in lock-step chanting, "must eat Democratic brains".
Is he going to fire himself? georgie certainly wouldn't have the courage to do it. My guess is the Medal of Freedom and a promotion. It would stay in line with other bush's pals' FUBARS.

[Cicero]

36. They'll never let him go to jail.

Remember, in order for it to be a crime, they'd have to prove he outed a "covert agent", and you know they'll find a way to show that Valerie Plame was not a "covert agent" under the law in question.

Later,

[Trevelyan]

40. Rove Scandal is a Coverup for Cheney WMD Nuclear "Walmart" that Plame team

was investigating.

Like most things to do with Bush Crime Family this is much, much dirtier than it looks.

Like the Watergate Scandal was really a coverup of Nixon's and the Bonesmen that surrounded him knowledge of Bush, Sr.'s involvement in the Kennedy Assassination, false reasons for the war in Vietnam, MK-ULTRA and major drug trafficking, it turns out all the hoopla about Rove is covering something much dirtier.

Wilson cannot say what his wife was working on and their is an article (August 2004) with several links on Democratic Underground with strong proofs that Valerie Plame's team was working on PNAC Cheney's and active Bilderberg Rumsfeld participation in the world-wide Nuclear WMD "Walmart" out of Pakistan - second generation British citizen Pakastani's supposedly responsible for sucide bombing of London?

"It is a well-known fact...that the boys in the Bush Regime swing both ways. We speak, of course, of their proclivity--their apparently uncontrollable craving--for stuffing their trousers with loot from both sides of whatever war or military crisis is going at the moment."

Ten very well written pages with the history of Pakistan's WMD Nuclear market, Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute coverup by Cheney since at least 1989 and the BCCI. MUST READ!!

This article with many links called American Judas and the URL was given by a recent Poster on DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2178477#2180220

by Robert Paulsen Compiled from the Research by posters on THE PLAME INDICTMENT THREADS

"It is a supplement to The Waterman Paper and an exploration into Goal #3: Why Cheney Exposed Plame. It involves researching possible connections betwen businesses connected to Vice President Dick Cheney that may be associated with the sale of WMD components to countries in the Middle East and Asia."

Very detailed on Korea's WMD help from Cheney and Halliburton.

[ktowntennesseedem]

35. Reminds me of baseball managers getting tossed for arguing w/the umps.

They may leave the field and the dugout, but don't tell me they don't hang out in the hallway leading to the dugout, helping to call the shots. KKKarl would stand in the wings, out of the spotlight, still calling the shots, and he would be even more dangerous because it would all be behind the scenes.

Please, Dubya, DON'T fire him! We need him right where he is, where we can keep an eye on him, and where his newly-public lies can infect all of you!

(Welcome to DU!)

[mmonk]

23. I think there's more

and other players. Let's hope he stays connected a little while longer. We don't want them to dump him too quick and become just a fall guy and the press stop bringing heat that would let any others off the hook.

[No Blood for Hubris]

24. Send Karl to Klub Gitmo--

Now!

Just imagine Karlie boy--and JimmyJamesGannonGuckert--down Guantanamo way, swaying amongst the palm trees, all the way, downing fruit after tropical fruit! A little bondage, some consensual stress positions, a little excrement here--and there--and a good time will be had by all! It's so exciting! And the food is sooooo good!

[DouglasRussel]

25. Keep the pressure on

I just hope the Dems don't let this one fizzle out. Downing Street is already fading. Keep it in the papers, launch every kind of investigation possible, subpoena the bastard! I think it's a little light to be pushing to restrict his access to classified docs. Is that a proper punishment for the felony of treason? It was Bush Sr. who called that kind of leak "the worst kind of treason."

[King Cozumel]

26. Fired?!?!?! That's it??

KKKarl is a treasonous bastard and they only want him fired? I don't support senseless killings, but I can think of no other candidate for capitol punishment for treason, and that's Karl Rove. At least get him a nice room at the Hague. I'm sure there's SOMETHING that he could be tried for. :)

[NightOwwl]

27. Welcome to all the brand new posters on this thread!

Good points, each and every one of you :hi:

[jmcon007]

28. Yeah, right. And I'm gonna fire Skinner.

Who do they think is running the Whitehouse anyway?

[burrowowl]

29. YES!

But who in the HELL told Rove?
Bu$h, Cheney, Condi, Bowel ...?
IMPEACH THE LOT OF THEM!

[BlakeB]

31. I second this.

It had to come from higher up.

[ClintonTyree]

32. Since when has bush ever been held accountable....

for ANYTHING he's said? :shrug: bush has left enough broken promises in his wake to dam up mighty rivers. He's not going to tell his brain to resign. Quite the contrary, if History is any judge of his future actions, Rove will be given the Medal of Freedom and a promotion.

bush made such a big deal of acting tough and promising to "get to the bottom of it" and "if someone from the White House was involved "they would no longer be in this administration". Well georgie, you've known for quite some time that KKKarl and probably others were involved, yet you've done nothing. Well, I guess you HAVE done something; you've stonewalled and withheld information from the prosecutor. Yep, that sounds like full cooperation to me.

bush's tacit endorsement of this crime against America should be enough to put HIS sorry ass away along with KKKarl, Scooter (probably), Dick (most assuredly) and others as well. This lame assed "I never said her name" defense is a crock of shit. That would be like me saying, "The top man in our government is a notorious liar and is as intelligent as a basket full of hammers". Hey, I NEVER SAID it was george bush, right? :shrug:

They ALL belong in jail. Treason is something so low, so hideous it should be dealt with in the most harshest terms. Especially people who swore to uphold the Constitution. Hang 'em high!

[Iamthewinner]

37. patience

I am sure this the media attention and pressure from all sides will clear this whole thing up. The full investigation must take place or Bush would look hasty and irrational. He knows that. From an independent stand point, I bet Rove will be fired in time.

I knew a lot of people here who were upset that Bush acted so quickly after 9/11 so it would be a bit hypocritical to insist on being hasty again with no investigation. I am sure there is more to this than Rove.....maybe higher up. Hopefully time will tell.

[Kool McKool]

38. Fired? FIRED!!?

Karl Rove needs to be strung up by his ankles and publicly eviscerated.