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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 09:29 PM Original message |
The Minimum Wage and The Movie, "Saturday Night Fever" |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yep, and the minimum wage had already dropped by about half |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Actually, he would it would have gone up $2.65 an hour not $ 1.15 |
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Jayhawk Lib (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Bingo!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yeah, let's bring back the twelve hour work day, while we at it, |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I already work 12 hours a day because I want to |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. You can get ahead in life by NOT working 12 hour days also |
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uncle ray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 12:06 AM Response to Reply #13 |
39. ahead of who? at what cost? |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 07:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
49. That is a lie, the average worker in this country does not make |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
67. Who's doing these averages? I make several bucks less |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. In many expensive metro areas..no one pays minimum |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Construction has to pay well for people to do it |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 11:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
63. I have no problem with the payrate...just that young guys |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 04:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Physical labor... especially outdoor labor HAS to pay more |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. of course...but why doesn't it attract young fit guys? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
66. Well, if it's not relevant |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Please Explain Your Statement |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Minimum wage is a tool to suppress the the normal |
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Dhampir Kampf (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You really think.. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
68. Strongly disagree. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. "Market Forces" Arguments Always Carry A False Premise |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. When I hear 'market forces', I think Milton Friedman, trickle-down |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. I am charged with crimes |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Well, what specious economic theories do you ascribe to? |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Response |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Unbelievably silly. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
44. The Great God "Market Forces" decrees, among other things, |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. Rebuttal |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Well, that sure worked great during the Depression, didn't it? |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. You said it better than I did! |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. So market forces don't exist? |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Your second chart is almost meaningless. |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Again, you mention the $16 per hour canard |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 12:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. See federal goverment |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I just love it when folks trot out the myth of the average. |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Depends on where you live... |
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sheelz (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. I agree, It's all about the area! |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I'm sorry for your situation |
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sheelz (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Thanks fo the support! |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 12:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
43. I understand this part... |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. How does the minimum wage suppress wages? |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. You misquote me. |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. You're not being realistic |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. That simply is not the real world and you know that. |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I live in the real world, and I know FOR CERTAIN |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
50. Fan might be too strong a word. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. I call bullshit on a point of fact |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
61. My only problem with what you're saying is |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 12:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
37. Well, they could always pay adult workers more than mw now |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. Not necessarily. |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. They will raise costs if necessary |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. How many exempt (salaried) employees at your avg JITB? |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I think most assistant managers are exempt |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. I think a lot of posters here don't understand Poppyseedman. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. Perhaps, but not necessarily |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Your Missing My Point |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. No, I'm not missing your point |
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Dhampir Kampf (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Sadly.. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Stay in school? college? |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #17 |
40. I have a biology degree and want a different job |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 02:11 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Oh yeah, the INTERNSHIP in college scam. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I worked in a paid internship in grad school |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. How did she get one year of unemployment? |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. During Poppy's Term (Senior *) He kept signing extensions to |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. I live in NYC and I can't do that. |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Move |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. That's why I didn't get an internship |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 08:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Internship |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
31. Even if Tony coulda' made $45/hour. He didn't need to be mixin' paint.... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
45. More on the buying power of the minimum wage |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 04:53 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. In other words, everythign you actually *need* to live, |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
55. I Want To Quote The Great American Philosopher, Chris Rock |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Spot on! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Really! |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
56. 4 Bucks an hour in '78, huh? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. not quite right |
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