'So he (Gore)considers the election stolen? '

[kansasblue]

http://www.bradblog.com/

Later, I put the question of Gore’s views on the matter to David Boies, his lawyer in the Florida-recount battle. "He thought the court’s ruling was wrong and obviously political," Boies says. So he considers the election stolen? "I think he does—and he’s right."

[Kurovski]

1. K&R.(nt)

[BeFree]

2. And it only took six years!

Well, they are catching up with us. I guess by 2010, Kerry's peeps will be saying the same thing?

"Ahyup, looks like Diebold stole the election in 2004. He really believes that."

[Dunvegan]

3. Gore intimated that it wasn't a situation that took him 6 years to glean..

...so much as beyond the Supreme Court, his options were limited.

Here's the other part of his quote:

Does he, like many Democrats, think the election was stolen?

Gore pauses a long time and stares into the middle distance. "There may come a time when I speak on that,” Gore says, "but it’s not now; I need more time to frame it carefully if I do.” Gore sighs. "In our system, there’s no intermediate step between a definitive Supreme Court decision and violent revolution."

[BeFree]

4. May come a time?

Well, I'm no Al Gore, but it looks like there is a violent revolution going on. Thousands of people have died at the hands of the person who replaced Gore.

C'mon Al, trust the people to do it non-violently, we just need a leader to spark our revolution!

[Apollo11]

7. Which planet are you living on?

There are so many guns in America, how can anyone imagine the idea of non-violent overthrow of the Government?

If Al Gore stands for anything - he stand for the Constitution, for democratic institutions, for checks and balances, for the rule of law. He stands for "everyone is equal under the law", and the same rules apply to everyone - including the President, including candidates running for office.

If the Democratic Party would refuse to accept the result of an election, the GOP would have a field day. "They call themselves democrats, but they won't accept the election results."

I know it's very hard for us to take, but we have to look at it from every angle.

Sometimes you have to admit that you lost one battle (whether the result was "fair and square" - or not), but the most important thing is that you "live to fight another day".

In Gore We Trust
www.algore.org :)

[BeFree]

15. everyone equal under the law?

If you believe that, you must be on a mission to the moon.

Gore may stand for that, but what has he done to uphold that? If I am cheated, I raise hell. Sorry to say this but Gore has not set a good example by allowing this crap to go by without complaining, loud and often.

Oh, as a recent example of non-violent overthrow of a government, look at Russia from a few years ago. Don't tell me it can't be done.

You have gotten over the elections being stolen. But I haven't, and never will.

[Vitruvius]

23. There ARE intermediate steps; e.g. de-legitimizing the Bush Administration

by making it utterly clear that they're usurpers, and making it as difficult as possible for them to govern. The idea that there's no intermediate step between kissing Bush & Co's ass and a violent revolution is ridiculous.

A country that will NOT be governed by usurpers is a country that gets to keep its democracy.

And inciting the utmost public anger, and making the Bush gang's lives hell, might have (a) deterred them from launching wars-of-aggression like Iraq, (b) deterred the Rethugnican thefts of the 2002, 2004 and probably 2006 elections, and might possibly (c) save our democracy without a revolution.

Unfortunately, the DC Democratic establishment meekly played the "good sport" with the Bush gangsters -- acting as enablers for these criminals.

By-the-way, "revolution" is the wrong word -- what we want is a RESTORATION of American democracy.

[sandnsea]

5. He said he disagreed at the time

Maybe he's forgotten that he said he disagreed with the Supreme Court decision. But he did.

"Now the U.S. Supreme Court has spoken. Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College."

I don't know what the hell people expected him to do either, shoot Bush??

[Apollo11]

6. I don't think Gore has forgotten 2000

I don't think Al Gore has forgotten that he publicly disagreed with the Supreme Court's decision. Not for one second. Just like none of us should forget that Gore fought hard for 36 days to get every vote counted, exhausting every legal option that was open to him. Just like we should not forget that senior Congressional Democrats were begging Gore to stand down and let the chimp's inauguration go ahead, while the mainstream media was full of polls saying the American people wanted "closure" on the Presidential election ...

What Gore also thinks about is this: "what would be the consequences of me coming out and saying they stole the 2000 election?". Would it allow the GOP and the right-wing media to paint me as a bitter, irrelevant, nut? A "Sore Loserman"? I guess he takes the view that it's not all about him. It's about saving the Constitution. It's also about saving the Democratic Party, winning back the trust of the American people.

In Gore We Trust
www.algore.org :)

[Old and In the Way]

8. Well stated.....

Gore/Kerry 08 Gore can deal with the macro-issues (environment/international relations)while Kerry runs the prosecution and cleans out the corruption in DC.

[BeFree]

17. Well, ...

...yall may have gotten over it, and Gore may have gotten over it, just like the republicans told us we should. But I am not over it, and never will be, I don't care what yall say.

I will fight to the end, and it would be nice if we had one leader who felt and spoke the same. Just one leader is all it would take.

[sandnsea]

9. Uhm

I was just reminding BeFree that it didn't take Gore 6 years to disagree with the Supreme Court at all and that he'd done everything he could to fight for the election, short of shooting Bush.

[Apollo11]

10. Hey sandnsea

"Maybe he's forgotten that he said he disagreed with the Supreme Court decision. But he did."

There are 3 "he"s in this sentence. How many of them are Al Gore?

[sandnsea]

11. All of them

It were a joke, teehee.

[anniebelle]

12. Excellent! Should have thought of that move earlier.

Maybe a little hunting trip with the boy king, lol.

[Freddie Stubbs]

13. Six years for what?

He hasn't said anything publicly. His lawyer 'thinks' that Gore believes this. Pure speculation.

[Ashamed_American]

14. He should remain quiet about this.

The Republicans would love for Gore to come out and claim the election was 'stolen.' They would feast off of that. Any Gore run in 2008 would be slammed with nutjob, conspiracy, lunatic ads claiming that he is off his rocker. The Hannity's, the Limbaugh's.... Gore saying that would pretty much write their scripts for them for the entire year of '08 leading up to the elections.

Besides, say he did come out and say it, what would it change?


www.BlackEyedSundays.com

[BeFree]

16. It would be nice..

...if someone who wants to lead us spoke truth to power.

Oh wait, they might say we are crazy, etc? Well then, let us go and hide, so those whack job idiots won't say bad things about us? BS.

[IndyOp]

18. These are *not* ordinary times. In extra-ordinary times,

we cannot depend on familiar modes of thinking.

Right now the MOST important issue in our nation is the theft of the last 2 Presidential elections -- if a significant majority of our fellow citizens do not understand this issue FAST we are in danger of having the 2006 elections stolen and the 2008 elections cancelled.

As much as my mind and heart are all for Gore 2008 we *must* understand that right now - now - right now is a do-or-die moment. We need the TRUTH now.

If Gore and Kerry standing up to speak truth means that they cannot run for President in 2008, then that may be the sacrifice that they both, as true statemen, must make.

We MUST speak truth - the entire truth - loud and clear now to slap the citizens AWAKE.

If there is no impeachment remedy available to us, because the GOP steals the 2006 elections, then it does not matter who may or may not be thinking of running in 2008 - there will not be elections.

[rman]

24. It's obvious that it was stolen

The federal court had no business in Florida.
I think most republicans know this as well. It's just that they 'won' back then, or so they thought...

[IndyOp]

19. No. Gore has not publically stated that he considers 2000 stolen.

Let's not put words in his mouth. This is one lawyer speaking. That is all.

[zbdent]

20. Just imagine - had the situation been reversed

and a Repuke VP, candidate for the Pres. in 2000, lost the election in such a manner, and yet have to be presiding over the painful and public humiliation of certifying the stolen election, stolen by a Dem,

would the Repuke VP have done his Constitutional duty and quelled the uprising by the other repukes who were clamoring for one single, patriotic Republican signature on the resolution to stop the proceedings?

[rniel]

21. hell yeah

Damn conservative supreme court sticking their noses where it don't belong.

[Fovea]

22. What kind of decision is not supposed to establish precedent?

Answer: A piss-poor one. One that the architects of hope never to see used against them.