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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 03:50 PM Original message |
I don't give a shit about the IWR. There. I said it. |
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loyalsister
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Tue May-08-07 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good for you |
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file83
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Tue May-08-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. Yeah, sure, let's bury the hatchet.... |
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loyalsister
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Wed May-09-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
104. Please do misunderstand me |
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ClassWarrior
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Fri May-11-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
150. But most here who cite IWR fail to take into account the rest of history... |
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Sat May-12-07 05:42 AM Response to Reply #58 |
164. All Those Who Knew For Sure There Were No WMDs Raise Your Hands |
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dave_p
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Sat May-12-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Raising hand |
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dave_p
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Sat May-12-07 07:02 AM Response to Reply #164 |
167. Furthermore... |
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Jai4WKC08
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Sat May-12-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #164 |
185. Do you have ANY idea how many nations have WMD? |
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Sat May-12-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #58 |
177. let's judge with the full spectrum of information |
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rodeodance
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Tue May-15-07 07:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
255. I do not much care at this point either. Dems have a good crop of candidates and I |
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BeyondGeography
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Tue May-08-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. You can have Yogi Berra, I'll take Faulkner on the past |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I understand the importance of the past more than you might think |
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BeyondGeography
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Tue May-08-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. It's not about DU, Clinton and Edwards would be killing Obama |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. By "fixing Iraq" I refer to resolving the American involvement in Iraq |
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BeyondGeography
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Tue May-08-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. We agree, and putting the heat on those who voted for IWR |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Tue May-08-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. You do know, don't you, that Edwards is escaping much of the |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. The repudiation of the IWR vote doesn't matter at all to most on DU |
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karynnj
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Wed May-09-07 06:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
77. This was exactly what it was designed to do |
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The Magistrate
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Fri May-18-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #77 |
282. Indeed, Ma'am |
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jcrew2001
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Tue May-15-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
266. Iran and Syria will fix Iraq soon enough |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #266 |
269. Do Not Leave Saudi Arabia Out Of The Equation, Sir |
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David Zephyr
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Tue May-08-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. past is prologue. |
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Carolina
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Tue May-08-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. wonderfully put |
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w4rma
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Tue May-08-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Obama appears to have voted for every single pro-Iraq war bill placed in front of him. |
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Carolina
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Tue May-08-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Who said I'm for Obama? |
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jillan
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Tue May-08-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. W.E.L.- |
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AtomicKitten
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Tue May-08-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. you are welcome to your opinion |
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Clark2008
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Wed May-09-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
126. Thank you. |
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AtomicKitten
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Thu May-10-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #126 |
135. hey mom |
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closeupready
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Tue May-08-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think that's sort of irresponsible to say before the primary. |
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AtomicKitten
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Tue May-08-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I agree this should be a consideration in the primary |
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closeupready
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Tue May-08-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Right. |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. It's not irresponsible because I think its importance is overinflated |
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Tue May-08-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Okay, that's a little more clear. |
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ElizabethDC
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Tue May-08-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. I agree with you 100%, WEL |
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TwilightGardener
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Tue May-08-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yup, I agree--I primarily blame this administration for Iraq. |
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Pawel K
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Tue May-08-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
17. The problem I have with your OP is the right wingers use the exact same excuse |
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Milo_Bloom
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Tue May-08-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. Yeah, why look at history? |
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Catchawave
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Tue May-08-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
19. Agree n/t |
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zulchzulu
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Tue May-08-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
20. If you were on the Senate Intelligence Committee and still voted for it, you are an ass |
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jcrew2001
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Tue May-15-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
264. Do you think being a senator from a Red State affected their |
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Alexander
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Tue May-08-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
21. It shows bad judgment for Edwards, Kerry, Clinton, Dodd and Biden. |
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Adelante
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Tue May-08-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Me, too |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. So which candidate is perfect? Who has almighty good judgment? |
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Alexander
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Tue May-08-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. This isn't just any issue. This is a bloody war with cooked intel. |
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David Zephyr
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Tue May-08-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Amen. |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Durbin was on the Intelligence committee |
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Alexander
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Tue May-08-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Most who voted for IWR never learned from their "mistake". |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. See, I think the saber-rattling with Iran has a lot more bearing on 2008 |
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Alexander
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Tue May-08-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. You said "I don't give a shit" about the IWR vote. I do, and those are some reasons. |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. And I stand by that statement. |
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Alexander
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Wed May-09-07 02:42 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Tell that to the 3,000 dead troops and 600,000 dead Iraqis. |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Wed May-09-07 03:23 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Oh give me a break and spare me the dishonest rhetoric |
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Alexander
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Wed May-09-07 03:56 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. When did I ever say Bush wasn't responsible? Talk about dishonest rhetoric. |
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karynnj
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Wed May-09-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #69 |
79. As soon as Leiberman and Gephardt |
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Alexander
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Wed May-09-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #79 |
108. That's why I don't like Lieberman and Gephardt. |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Wed May-09-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
120. You aren't interested in "honest debate" |
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Alexander
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Wed May-09-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. And you aren't interested in holding our senators accountable. |
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JTFrog
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Wed May-09-07 05:30 AM Response to Reply #59 |
73. How would |
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JTFrog
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Wed May-09-07 05:35 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I mean I know |
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karynnj
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Wed May-09-07 06:46 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. The President has that power to strike if he declares the US is in danger |
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Alexander
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Wed May-09-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #81 |
117. Yeah, but only for 90 days. |
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The Magistrate
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Thu May-10-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
141. With Humorous Ease, Ms. Frog |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #141 |
170. Nothing but baseless speculation on your part. |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #170 |
190. How Is This Calling Informed Disagreement 'Baseless Speculation' Thing Working Out For You, Sir? |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #190 |
198. How is posting inaccurate information working out for you? |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #198 |
200. Since My Observations Are Accurate, Sir, It Is Not Possible For Me To Answer That |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. You haven't presented us with a single accurate fact so far. |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed May-09-07 03:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
68. IMO, it's not about whether they had the intelligence, it's about what those who had it, did with it |
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karynnj
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Wed May-09-07 06:38 AM Response to Reply #55 |
78. Read some of the Senate IWR speeches |
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Alexander
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Wed May-09-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
118. The PNAC manifesto puts a giant hole in your theory. |
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The Magistrate
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Thu May-10-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #118 |
142. Absolutely And Utterly Meaningless, Mr. Alexander |
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Alexander
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Fri May-11-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #142 |
152. It was wrong to vote for IWR. You can't defend it, so don't bother trying. |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #152 |
161. A Concentration On Trifles, Sir, Wastes Your Own Time As Much As Your Reader's |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #161 |
171. You ignore the facts I post and provide none of your own. |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #171 |
186. You Never Asked Me To Join in This Conversation, Sir? |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #186 |
191. YOU accused ME of wasting your time, when I wasn't even talking to you. |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #191 |
193. As The Man Said, Sir |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #193 |
196. You have not used a single correct fact in this entire thread so far. |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #196 |
199. No One Gave A Rap About Inspections, Sir |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #199 |
203. You didn't read the polls much, did you? |
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dave_p
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Sat May-12-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #161 |
175. Elegant my ass |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #175 |
187. Faced Many Traps In Your Life, Sir? |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #187 |
192. Purely and utterly false. |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. The Question, Sir, Is The Effect Of the Smear |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #195 |
201. The smear obviously didn't work against the anti-IWR Democrats. |
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dionysus
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Fri May-11-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #142 |
157. Abslutely and Utterly Condescending, Sir, and foolhardy |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #157 |
163. You Seem To Be Missing the Point Entirely, Sir |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #163 |
172. The point is you are giving pro-IWR Democrats a pass, nothing more. |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #172 |
189. Who Ever Doubted Sens. Feingold And Boxer Would Win Re-Election, Sir? |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #189 |
194. Their own staffers, for starters. |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #194 |
197. The People Of the Country Did Not Agree With Us, Sir |
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Alexander
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Sat May-12-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #197 |
204. Wrong. Only 38% wanted war with the inspectors in there. Read #203. |
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Mon May-14-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #204 |
218. Apologists don't need facts |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #218 |
221. You Bring Tears To My Eyes, Ma'am, Indeed You Do |
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Alexander
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Tue May-15-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #221 |
223. Borrowed quotes and formal prose are no match for having the facts on your side. |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 02:12 AM Response to Reply #223 |
225. Once A Man Has Proved No Match For The Enticements Of A Pot-Roast, Sir |
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Alexander
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Tue May-15-07 02:20 AM Response to Reply #225 |
227. That's where we differ. I don't reward failure. |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 02:41 AM Response to Reply #227 |
230. Do You Really Think So, Sir? |
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Alexander
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Tue May-15-07 04:15 AM Response to Reply #230 |
249. Round and round you go, repeating the same debunked things... |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #249 |
256. You Have De-Bunked Nothing, Mr. Alexander |
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Alexander
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Tue May-15-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #256 |
257. At this point, you're just trying to re-write history. |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #257 |
258. If You Say So, Sir |
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Alexander
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Tue May-15-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #258 |
260. So now you've completely dropped the IWR topic. |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #260 |
267. 'For The Thousandth Time', Mr. Alexander? |
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Alexander
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Tue May-15-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #267 |
271. Oh please. You've twisted my words countless times. |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #271 |
272. Countless, Sir, Is Even Worse In Its Way Then Thousandth.... |
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Tue May-15-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #272 |
274. Deleted message |
Alexander
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Sat May-19-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #272 |
286. Some parting advice for you... |
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dave_p
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Sat May-12-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #163 |
178. That's a cave-in |
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The Magistrate
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Sat May-12-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #178 |
188. And What Tone Would That Be, Sir? |
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Mon May-14-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #163 |
217. This is where your agrument fails |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #217 |
224. That, Ma'am, Simply Restates And Reinforces My Analysis Of The Matter |
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Tue May-15-07 02:31 AM Response to Reply #224 |
228. Wait... |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 02:46 AM Response to Reply #228 |
231. It Is A Distinction Without a Difference, Ma'am |
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Tue May-15-07 02:52 AM Response to Reply #231 |
233. Do you reward incompetence or misjudgement? |
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Tue May-15-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #233 |
235. And fyi... |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 02:58 AM Response to Reply #233 |
237. None Of the Leading Candidates For The Party's Presidential Nomination, Ma'am |
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Tue May-15-07 03:12 AM Response to Reply #237 |
240. In that case... |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 03:28 AM Response to Reply #240 |
244. Now There Is The Beginning Of Wisdom, Ma'am |
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Tue May-15-07 03:32 AM Response to Reply #244 |
245. Since I don't have a dog in this race this time around |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 03:44 AM Response to Reply #245 |
247. Very Like A War Indeed, Ma'am |
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Tue May-15-07 02:46 AM Response to Reply #228 |
232. I also want to add something else |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 03:00 AM Response to Reply #232 |
238. No One, Ma'am |
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Tue May-15-07 03:08 AM Response to Reply #238 |
239. I strongly disagree |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 03:19 AM Response to Reply #239 |
241. It Does Not Seem That Way To Me, Ma'am |
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Tue May-15-07 03:25 AM Response to Reply #241 |
243. The Repulicans used every Democratic vote |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 03:41 AM Response to Reply #243 |
246. They Did More Than That, Ma'am |
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Alexander
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Tue May-15-07 04:36 AM Response to Reply #246 |
252. They also got the ammo for Kerry's "flip-flopping" from IWR. |
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Alexander
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Tue May-15-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #224 |
229. My, you sure can read minds, can't you? |
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The Magistrate
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Tue May-15-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #229 |
234. And Speculate Baselessly, Apparently, Too, Sir |
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Tue May-15-07 04:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
251. they voted to let a thieving, incompetent warmongering piece of SHIT go to war |
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Milo_Bloom
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Tue May-08-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Bad law is different than voting for death |
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moodforaday
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Tue May-08-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
46. You got that last line right |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. What should it tell me, pray tell? I think you missed the point of my post. |
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Alexander
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Wed May-09-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
128. A vote on money or social issues is much different than a vote on WAR. |
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dionysus
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Fri May-11-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
158. blithely excuse away lost lives, in the order of thousands |
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Clark2008
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Wed May-09-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
129. OK - but Edwards failed on ALL the important votes, now didn't he? |
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Wed May-09-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. He also voted for |
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Catchawave
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Thu May-10-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
139. Huckabee! |
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Tue May-08-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. Kerry's not running |
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Wed May-09-07 06:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
80. Bad judgement and/or political cowardice |
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Tue May-08-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. So the judgment of a candidate doesn't matter, right? |
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WildEyedLiberal
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Tue May-08-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. The judgment of a candidate is far, far more complicated than one litmus test vote |
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Tue May-08-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. I fear pointing out |
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Tue May-08-07 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
24. Should be mainly a general topic |
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Tue May-08-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
28. What they did then |
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Tue May-08-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
32. The past is now. |
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Tue May-08-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
35. The IWR was about WAR, |
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Tue May-08-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. Thanks for letting Bush off the hook |
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Alexander
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Wed May-09-07 04:34 AM Response to Reply #57 |
72. The Dems could've stopped IWR, in the Senate, if they wanted to. |
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Thu May-10-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #72 |
143. Again, Sir, It is Nonesense To Maintain That |
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Alexander
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Fri May-11-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #143 |
153. You don't know that. You are just making things up. |
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Wed May-09-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #57 |
98. I'm not letting * off the hook |
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Tue May-08-07 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
37. Talk is cheap, hindsight is 20/20 and do overs for the dead are impossible. |
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Tue May-08-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
40. I do. |
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Tue May-08-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. Excellent post |
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Tue May-08-07 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
42. I have to agree |
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Tue May-08-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
43. With that logic |
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Tue May-08-07 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
45. I don't care about it either, |
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Tue May-08-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. So what does it mean |
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Tue May-08-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Obama appears to have voted for every single pro-Iraq war bill placed in front of him. |
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Wed May-09-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #48 |
88. and he also eats babies... |
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Wed May-09-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #88 |
94. The Republicans are going to eat Obama up over that. Democrats won't. |
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Wed May-09-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. oh I'm sure you'll resort to that at some point |
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Wed May-09-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Why would I say anything except what I said above? I, personally, have absolutely no problem with |
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Wed May-09-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. cause for some reason |
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Sat May-12-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #88 |
174. don't shrug off legit criticism with sarcasm |
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Wed May-09-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
116. Are you 100% sure? |
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Tue May-08-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
51. Actions speak louder than words |
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Tue May-08-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Actually I think Bush & Co would rather we blame Dems for the Iraq War |
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Wed May-09-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #54 |
89. two people can be responsible for the same action |
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Tue May-08-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
56. You have missed the whole point with your rant |
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Tue May-08-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I believe you have conflated the importance of that vote entirely too much |
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Wed May-09-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Uh, no |
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Wed May-09-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Okay - good to know you're perfect |
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Wed May-09-07 04:28 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Standing up for what's right doesn't make you "perfect" - get real. |
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Wed May-09-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
91. Who? Kuccinich? Because that is the only one. Sure, that's great |
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Wed May-09-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #91 |
99. That's why some of us are so disenchanted |
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Wed May-09-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #91 |
124. Gore spoke out against IWR before it was popular to do so. |
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Fri May-11-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #124 |
146. Neither Gore nor Clark nor Obama voted nay to the IWR. |
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Fri May-11-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #146 |
154. So? They didn't vote for it either. |
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Wed May-09-07 07:29 AM Response to Reply #63 |
82. Ridiculous |
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Wed May-09-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
102. Who? Name that Democrat. There are none. Only Kuccinich. |
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Wed May-09-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
133. For the last goddamned time...AL GORE did not enable this war. |
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Thu May-10-07 01:31 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. word |
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Fri May-11-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #133 |
147. NONE of the Democrats you have named voted no. |
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Fri May-11-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #147 |
155. So? They all spoke out against it before the vote took place. |
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Tue May-08-07 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
61. I use copies of the IWR for toilet paper. nt |
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Wed May-09-07 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
65. The families of nearly 3,400 dead GIs do care about the IWR |
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Tue May-15-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
261. Don't tell me those men and women didn't serve with honor |
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Wed May-09-07 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
67. The IWR was a great test of Presidential Leadership... |
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Wed May-09-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #67 |
86. There are no REAL contenders in the 2008 campaign who |
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Thu May-10-07 02:14 AM Response to Reply #86 |
137. Speaking out against the war in 02 is just as good - and Gore, Clark and Obama did that. |
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Wed May-09-07 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
70. Feel free to tune me out then. |
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Wed May-09-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
112. ! |
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Wed May-09-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
121. "I think Yogi Berra is a source of life guiding wisdom" |
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Wed May-09-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Yeah,your OP was a shining example on how to build majorities. |
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Wed May-09-07 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
74. If you don't care how politicians vote on key issues |
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Wed May-09-07 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
76. Those of us who feel this was an important vote |
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Wed May-09-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
115. "senators who had the real intel ". You mean |
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Wed May-09-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Rockefeller and Feinstein voted YES on Levin |
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Wed May-09-07 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
83. It matters |
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Wed May-09-07 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
84. Past performance matters. It predicts what the candidate will |
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Wed May-09-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
85. Those who choose to ignore history ... |
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Wed May-09-07 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
87. I could forgive most votes, WildEyed, but not this one |
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Wed May-09-07 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
90. Yeah! And the dead are dead - it's not like they can be brought back! |
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Wed May-09-07 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
92. Right...Reward incompetence with a promotion! NOT! |
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Wed May-09-07 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
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Wed May-09-07 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
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Wed May-09-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. So I guess you'll be sitting out the 2008 election, because no |
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Wed May-09-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Gore, Clark, Gravel, Richardson, Kucinich... |
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Fri May-11-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #109 |
149. Only Kuccinich was IN CONGRESS. Can't you see the pattern? |
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Fri May-11-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #149 |
156. Yeah, power and politics kept the others from doing the right thing. |
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Sat May-12-07 07:10 AM Response to Reply #149 |
168. I can see the pattern |
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Sat May-12-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #168 |
173. Don't forget Nancy Pelosi. |
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Wed May-09-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #107 |
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Wed May-09-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
101. Amen. (nt) |
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Wed May-09-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
103. It was an error in judgment to give him the authority. BUT, those who voted didn't pull the trigger |
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Wed May-09-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. No,they just helped to load the gun. |
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Wed May-09-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. They gave the drunk the car keys! |
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Wed May-09-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Gary Hart? Is he even running? |
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Wed May-09-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Maybe, he hasn't ruled it out yet. We are working on him. |
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Wed May-09-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #114 |
132. I wouldn't mind seeing him enter the race, even though he's 70. |
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Thu May-10-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #132 |
138. His age is irrelevant. He is still very, very sharp. The field lacks foreign policy judgment. |
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Wed May-09-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
106. So talk is louder than action? |
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Wed May-09-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. Touche, dogman! |
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Fri May-11-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #106 |
151. Actually, it was only the talkers (as opposed to voters) who went |
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Fri May-11-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #151 |
159. I doubt I will vote for any one who voted for the IWR in the primary. |
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Wed May-09-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
119. terrific, WEL. I agree 100% n/t |
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Wed May-09-07 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
127. Shame on you |
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Wed May-09-07 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
131. "What is past is prelude" n/t |
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Thu May-10-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
140. Let's not tap dance around the issue here, pal. |
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Fri May-11-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
144. Off topic |
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Sun May-13-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #144 |
209. Thank you! |
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Fri May-11-07 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
145. "This f-ing website will still be having IWR flamewars in the year 2050" |
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Fri May-11-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. Well if we are still in Iraq in 2050.............this might still quite possibly |
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Sat May-12-07 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
160. well, it must be nice to be so easy for you to excuse an illegal war |
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Sun May-13-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #160 |
211. I don't excuse BUSH'S illegal war n/t |
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Sat May-12-07 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
162. John Kerry isn't running. |
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Sat May-12-07 07:49 AM Response to Reply #162 |
169. Hey, Incap |
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Sat May-12-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #169 |
184. Hey Sweetie |
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Sun May-13-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #169 |
210. Thank you for disagreeing with me civilly WesDem |
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Mon May-14-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #210 |
216. You did a lot more than just that |
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Mon May-14-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #216 |
219. Obviously, we disagree about the IWR's importance |
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Tue May-15-07 02:14 AM Response to Reply #219 |
226. DU isn't the real world |
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Tue May-15-07 02:57 AM Response to Reply #226 |
236. "I feel detached from it all and I'm kinda enjoying that." |
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Tue May-15-07 03:20 AM Response to Reply #236 |
242. Heh |
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Tue May-15-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #226 |
262. I know what you mean |
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Sat May-12-07 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
165. Nice of you to so conveniently sweep away the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents |
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Sat May-12-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #165 |
176. the OP does not 'sweep away the deaths', nor do those who voted yes |
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Sat May-12-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #176 |
179. Bush's war - and a far wider error |
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Sat May-12-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #179 |
181. it wasn't a debacle then, it was a controversy about whether wmd existed |
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Sat May-12-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #181 |
182. There were plenty of warnings of the disaster ahead |
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Sat May-12-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #181 |
183. How come I could tell Powell was lying about the WMDs, |
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Sun May-13-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #183 |
206. maybe because Tenet didn't look you in the eye and say the WMD were real |
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Mon May-14-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #206 |
220. Gee I bet it's hard to shave in the morning |
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Tue May-15-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #206 |
222. So it's all okay, because Edwards trusted a CIA Director? |
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Tue May-15-07 07:02 AM Response to Reply #222 |
254. are you kidding? a president is a fool if he listens to the CIA? |
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Tue May-15-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #254 |
259. The CIA exists to overthrow democratic governments, worldwide, that they don't like... |
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Tue May-15-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #259 |
268. i happen to agree, for the most part |
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Tue May-15-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #268 |
273. Then why should the CIA be trusted? |
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Tue May-15-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #268 |
275. Actually, we do prefer despotic regimes over democratic ones, for a very simple reason... |
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Tue May-15-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #254 |
265. Are YOU kidding? A president should always trust the CIA? |
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Tue May-15-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #222 |
278. Who sezzzzzzz? |
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Alexander
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Sat May-19-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #278 |
285. Venable said it. I was simply responding. |
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Sat May-12-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #176 |
180. Oh. Really? |
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Sun May-13-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #176 |
205. War saves lives, since when? |
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Sun May-13-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #205 |
207. it's not 'stupid', it is a consideration |
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Mon May-14-07 04:27 AM Response to Reply #207 |
213. False premise, you assumed that such things are possible... |
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Mon May-14-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #213 |
214. I assumed nothing. I stated a scenario that you said couldn't exist. |
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Tue May-15-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #214 |
263. Look, its simple, all Edwards had to do at the time was open up ANY foreign paper... |
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Tue May-15-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #263 |
276. the IWR was before the inspectors made their preliminary conclusions |
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Tue May-15-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #263 |
277. the IWR was before the inspectors made their preliminary conclusions |
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Tue May-15-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #277 |
279. That is true, sort of... |
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Tue May-15-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #279 |
280. I believed Scott Ritter from the get-go |
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Tue May-15-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #280 |
281. To be honest, this isn't just limited to Edwards.... |
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Tue May-15-07 04:31 AM Response to Reply #165 |
250. thank you |
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Tue May-15-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #250 |
253. You're welcome |
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Sun May-13-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
208. Much of what a candidate can be expected to do can be inferred |
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Mon May-14-07 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
212. There! You! Said! It! |
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Tue May-15-07 03:44 AM Response to Original message |
248. Amen. I agree completely. eom. |
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Tue May-15-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
270. I agree absolutely WEL ! You are 100% correct! |
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283. I agree to this extent: |
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Fri May-18-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #283 |
284. Well Said, Ma'am! An Excellent Point |
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