Clinton extends lead over Obama in Several States & Nationwide Polls

[Alamom]

Recent nationwide and state polls show that Hillary Clinton's lead over the rest of the democratic presidential candidates is growing.


http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/5/prweb525993.htm

PRWEB
Press Release Newswire
5/14/07


Hillary Clinton Extends Lead Over Obama in Several States and Nationwide Polls


Washington D.C. (PRWEB) May 14, 2007 -- American Research Group ran recent state polls in Florida, Michigan, and California from May 4-8, 2007.

Hillary Clinton extended her lead in each of these states.

In Florida, Clinton's lead has gone from 16% to 28%. Edwards was second in the last poll taken in February. Obama is now in second.

Hillary Clinton's lead in Michigan over the same span has gone from 5% to 13%.

In California, Clinton's lead has gone from a statistical dead heat (3%) to 9%.

The interest in the Obama's campaign seems to be staying stable, but Clinton's support is growing nationwide. A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation polls taken from May 4-6, 2007, has Clinton's lead over Obama growing from 4% to 14% from April. The USA Today/Gallup Poll has Clinton's lead ballooning from 5% to 15%.

According to David Terr of PresidentPolls2008.com, "Barack Obama's support has been staying stable but Hillary Clinton's support has grown."




David Terr holds a Phd in Mathematics from the University of California, Berkeley and is the lead analyst and content developer of PresidentPolls2008.com.

[Old Vet]

1. Sorry, I just dont find this to be good news.

I dont have a good feeling bout Hillary

[skipos]

16. Hillary leads most primary polls, but underperforms Edwards and Obama in most general elec. polls

She is my last pick for the 08 nomination, and this is one of my many reasons why.

[BlueManDude]

2. bringing us just a little bit closer to President John McCain.

[wyldwolf]

4. why? She defeats McCain in head to head match ups.

[BlueManDude]

5. Those polls mean nothing now. It all changes when the choices are narrowed to two.

He'll beat her by 10 points and she'll cost us the House of Representitives as well. She's utter poison.

[wyldwolf]

6. so you're hoping she loses to the Republican?

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[MethuenProgressive]

11. "Anyone but Hillary in 08."?

I've never understood how the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy got into the heads of so many Democrats.

[wyldwolf]

12. I'm sure when referring to people like this...

... you're using the term "Democrat" loosely.

[Egnever]

37. I think the problem is many Democrats think

When you are speaking of Hillary you are using the term "Democrat" loosely

[wyldwolf]

50. no, I would say only the fringe... but then...

... based on their criteria, a Democrat has never won the White House. They've all been unworthy to be called "Democrat" as defined by the post-Wallace "progressive" movement.

[durrrty libby]

3. Not only is this good news, but Senator Clinton will be president,

and she will be fantastic. Naysayers and hand wringers be damned



:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

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[elizm]

7. General Election match-ups are what's important...

It doesn't matter how much Hillary wins the nomination by if she is not the most electable candidate.

[wyldwolf]

8. ...and she leads there, too.

[skipos]

17. Huh? Just the other day you admitted that she underperforms Edwards and Obama

in most general election polls. Why the change in tune?

[wyldwolf]

21. huh? You lead the GOP candidates but still underperform against others... right?

Right?

[skipos]

22. Ah, ok. You still recognize she underperforms the other dem candidates

My bad.

[wyldwolf]

23. I still recognize in two week old polls she does, but in recent polls the number have improved.

[skipos]

24. So in recent g.e. polls, she is outperforming Edwards and Obama? Where?

In that Newsweek poll that had all the Dems beating all of the Repubs, Edwards and Obama beat the Repubs by a larger margin in every single case. What newer polls show that trend has changed?

[wyldwolf]

26. Here:

Clinton: 48% Giuliani: 43%
Edwards: 49% Giuliani: 43%
Obama: 41% Giuliani: 43%

Clinton: 47% McCain: 42%
Edwards: 49% McCain: 39%
Obama: 39% McCain: 46%

http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/usapolls/CP070508.pdf

[skipos]

34. Edwards performs better than Hillary in that poll.

I thought you were talking about her doing better than both Obama and Edwards. I don't doubt that she will occasionally best Edwards or Obama in a general election poll or two (still waiting for the national general election polls where she bests BOTH of them) but it will be awhile before she will lose her title as...

the weakest general election candidate of our 3 frontrunners
the frontrunner candidate with the worst fav/unfavorables
the frontrunner candidate with the most people committed to voting against him/her
(ie http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_moves_to_top_of_poll_33_would_definitely_vote_for_him)

[wyldwolf]

36. So? I said her numbers had improved. She now performs better than Obama in that poll

[skipos]

38. I said

"You still recognize she underperforms the other dem candidates"
and you said "I still recognize in two week old polls she does"
which implies that in newer polls she doesn't.

I misunderstood you. I see now that we agree about Hillary's generally weaker numbers.

[wyldwolf]

39. I also said in the subject line of my post: "but in recent polls the number have improved."

And they have. She now leads Obama when before she did not.

[skipos]

74. oops

oops

[MethuenProgressive]

9. Edwards continues to fade.

A few months ago I thought he keep a good hold on his 8-10% base.

[w4rma]

13. 14% - 17% base and it's stable. (nt)

[Dawgs]

14. Worst place Hillary can be is where she's at now.

Most people aren't paying attention yet. When they do, they'll be worrying about electability.

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[jefferson_dem]

41. I would hope so but if she's perceived to have a big lead, the media will cloak her

with an auro of inevitability so it will be a greater uphill climb for Obama. The "rightful heir" meme also fits with what i have seen around here on DU, where she's been referred to as "Her Majesty" and "Queen"... Ack!

[illinoisprogressive]

18. Polls for this week are not out yet, I have checked. this is misleading

[wyldwolf]

19. so the polls are current until new polls say differently. Sorry. :(

[durrrty libby]

20. "this is misleading" you wish

[Egnever]

25. Thank god its early

I would love to have a woman president but hillary just bothers me on too many levels. I dont think she would be horrible for the country as long as we dont mind keeping the corporate masters cruising along.

It will be interesting to see how this stuff all pans out but in a field with so many decent choices I sincerly hope she is not the one we end up stuck with.

[illinoisprogressive]

27. Rassmussen: Obama within 2 points of Hillary. That is extending??????

[wyldwolf]

28. uh... yeah?

1. National poll, one in which Clinton also gained in.
2. Is Rasmussen reliable again? Two weeks back, they were in the dog house for having Clinton further ahead.

[Egnever]

29. Who was polled in this one

If it was Dem's only then that would explain this.

I don't think the polls really matter right now though as the majority of it right now is name recognition. Hillary will likely lead these things till we start getting into the real meat of this primary.

[illinoisprogressive]

30. I just love the way the Hillaries crow when she is up and dismisss when she LOOSES

[Tellurian]

32. Quinnipac shows Hillary with a 14 pt lead over Obama, as well!

http://www.presidentpolls2008.com/polls/quinnipiac_edu-Quinnipiac-2008-Presidential-Opinion-Polls.html

[skipos]

40. Quinnipac shows Hillary doing worse than Obama against McCain and Giuliani!

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1055

May 3, 2007

Dame Rudy 44 Obama 41 percent
Dame Rudy 49 Hillary 40 percent

McCain 42 Obama 42 percent
McCain 46 Clinton 41 percent

[Tellurian]

42. No it doesn't! It's statistically a dead heat between them..

furthermore, her first race is the Primary and rightfully so, her focus should be there.

She hasn't even lifted a finger yet and her numbers are stellar in both races..

[skipos]

43. Before I respond, can you answer these questions with a yes or no please?

It should only take you a second.

Does Hillary generally underperform Obama and Edwards in general election polls?
Do the polls generally indicate that she has higher unfavorables that Obama and Edwards?
Do the polls generally indicate she has a greater number of people committed to voting against her?

[Tellurian]

45. Insufficient data for polling...

If you want my opinion, I'll give you that.

Hillary is the best candidate for winning the Primary and the GE because she brings to the table something no other can claim-

GRAVITAS

[skipos]

46. So then why do you talk about primary polls?

Primary polls are notoriously less accurate than general election polls do to the fact that there are so few primary voters.

So is the answer to my three questions "no?"

[Tellurian]

48. If Hillary doesn't win the primary, your point is moot! nm

[skipos]

52. Could you please answer my questions? nt

[Tellurian]

53. It was answered in post #50...you just don't like the answer and nothing left to discuss-

[skipos]

56. I am not understanding your answer, since you seem to be avoiding the quesion.

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't dodge the question and just give me a yes or no answer.

Does Hillary generally underperform Obama and Edwards in general election polls?
Do the polls generally indicate that she has higher unfavorables that Obama and Edwards?
Do the polls generally indicate she has a greater number of people committed to voting against her?

[Tellurian]

65. Sure you are- you're just having trouble admitting it's True!

If Hillary fails to win the primary, your stand on everything else goes away!

[skipos]

68. I don't understand why you are so scared to answer the questions.

"Yes." "No." What is so frightening about that? This has been like like talking to a politician. If you are unable to answer my direction question with a direct answer, please do me the favor of not responding.

If someone asked me, "Do the polls indicate that Hillary is the primary frontrunner?" I would say "yes." It really isn't that hard to do even though I think she would be a mediocre President. When someone asks me any question about any of the candidates I do like... Gore, Clark, Obama, Richardson, I don't have any problem answering.

The fact that so many Hillary supporters are physically incapable of addressing any of her flaws is quite fascinating.

[Tellurian]

70. Why are you so frightened to accept my answer..?

It's the absolute Truth isn't it?

[skipos]

72. WHAT ANSWER?!?

Is it "yes" or "no?"

[Tellurian]

73. Why can't you admit your point is "moot" if Hillary is not the nominee?

definition of:

"moot"

–adjective

1. doubtful: a moot point.
2. of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
3. not actual; theoretical; hypothetical.

–verb (used with object)


4. to reduce or remove the practical significance of; make purely theoretical or academic.
5. Archaic. to argue (a case), esp. in a mock court.

–noun

6. an argument or discussion, esp. of a hypothetical legal case.
7. Obsolete. a debate, argument, or discussion.

[skipos]

75. Sure, it is moot. Now could you please take 2 minutes and go to

Zogby.com, rasmussen.com, pollingreport.com, etc and look at the dozens and dozens of polls that have been done over the months...

Does Hillary generally underperform Obama and Edwards in these general election polls?
Do these polls generally indicate that she has higher unfavorables that Obama and Edwards?
Do these polls generally indicate she has a greater number of people committed to voting against her?

[Egnever]

35. Everyone has a dog in this hunt

If you weren't here during the last primaries well hold on to your seat its gonna get craaaazy in here before this is over.

[durrrty libby]

44. I think it is great that she is LOOSE. The LOOSER the better

I hope she contiues to be the LOOSEST candidate

The rest will be LOSERS.


:evilgrin: :rofl:

[Tellurian]

49. Hillary IS LOOSE and Loving it!

[Alamom]

51. Love the graph and photo.Seems people continue to admire

her looseness or more appropriate, her complete composure during speeches, debates and all aspects of campaigning.

[Tellurian]

55. I agree, it was just a play on words..

for a common misspelling mistake I myself make at times..

A little fun makes the "naysayers" invisible!

[Alamom]

77. I know.......

Loose - lose, there - they're, your - you're, among many can mutilate some really good thoughts & some bad ones.

[durrrty libby]

60. Nice graph.

[Tellurian]

66. The Utube event: Tucker was aghast that BC said Hillary was the "Face of America"..

If he had been wearing his bow tie, we would have seen a little bob there, after his hard swallow at BC's liberty with words.

He said: "The Face of America belongs to The President and the Sec of State!" :evilgrin:

Peter Finn, was there to defend... he did ok!

:rofl:

[durrrty libby]

Tucker hates all things Clinton.

It will be fun to watch his head explode when she wins


:hangover: :hangover: :hangover: :hurts:

[rinsd]

47. Umm I don't think that poster was a Hillary supporter.

But nice of you to do a hit and run job on her actual supporters.

"the Hillaries crow when she is up and dismisss when she LOOSES"

You would know

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3242995

Title of Thread:

Democrats 2008: Hillary 34%, Obama 24%

Your response:

Obama leads Hillary, knocked her out of the top spot according to Rassmussen

[SaveElmer]

59. Dems and Dem leaning independents...

Dems only she is up by 8...

[Tellurian]

31. Clinton Maintains 14 pt Democratic Lead Over Obama

May 8 2007

THE RACE: The presidential race for Republicans, Democrats in the U.S.

THE NUMBERS - DEMOCRATS

Hillary Rodham Clinton, 38%

Barack Obama, 24%

Al Gore, 12%

John Edwards, 12%

THE NUMBERS - REPUBLICANS

Rudy Giuliani, 25%

John McCain, 23%

Fred Thompson 13%

Mitt Romney, 10%

OF INTEREST:

Clinton's lead over Obama has bounced around between the single digits and the teens this year, while the GOP race has shown more signs of tightening. In the latest indicator of Republican unrest, just 70 percent of GOP voters said they are very or fairly satisfied with their party's field of presidential contenders, compared to 84 percent of Democrats.

The telephone poll by CNN-Opinion Research Corp. of 1,028 registered voters was conducted May 4 to 6.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3151808

[mzmolly]

33. It's early...

She's still better known and has loads of cash.

[Nimrod2005]

54. Hillary is not electable, she will fade away at the end...Obama Richardson

is the ticket

[wyldwolf]

57. if your crystal ball is still turned on, tell me this week's winning numbers, ok?

[Nimrod2005]

58. 11 13 25 27 32 00

[wyldwolf]

61. thank you. I'll donate some of my winnings to the Clinton campaign in your name.

[rinsd]

69. Funk that. You win and its time to form your own PAC!

[polichick]

71. Richardson is THE pick for VP...

For Clinton, Edwards or Obama. We need those Southwestern electoral votes!

[coalition_unwilling]

62. Ugh! Just what the country needs, another tacker (Clinton) and

triangulator. Ugh!

[Bullet1987]

64. Hillary is just asking to crash and burn...

...If any of the Clinton supporters think she's going to simply walk away with this...you're in for a rude awakening when this campaign gets down to the nitty gritty. I couldn't care less WHAT a poll says in May of 2007. She's going to peak way too early, and these polls contradict the General Election polls by a lot anyway. Which either means people are being indecisive, or think she's a better Primary candidate than a General one.

[zulchzulu]

67. Overconfidence in the Clinton camp is just fine with me

I personally still have yet to meet anyone who would support Senator Clinton in the primaries... I'm out in the streets doing grassroots work and many have walked up to me to talk about 2008.

So let it be known that overconfidence (especially 8 months away from the Iowa caucus) in the part of ANY campaign is, as it always is historically, a weakness. Being a frontrunner this early in the election cycle may get you headlines now, but it will surely sink you as the mainstream media gets tired of that status.

[wyldwolf]

76. underestimating Clinton from all the other camps is just fine by me