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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:40 AM Original message |
Poll: Hillary flips another Red state...West Virginia... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. FYI the TRUE Headline is: "Research shows West Virginia is tilting back toward blue for the 2008 ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. FYI - the only forum where DU rules require exact headlines is LBN |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. There's more to promoting your candidate in good sportsmanship than merely |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. The queen of irony... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The Headline was in the next statement down. But hell, don't let the facts trip you up. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. That was the first line in the article... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. So the first line of the article is not also the headline when it is ONE sentence that concisely ... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. So you don't feel a requirement should be put in... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I'm sorry that you feel that way. As I stated before, it's not just with those who support HRC. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I think the rule should be brought into this Forum as well. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Right and it's not just HRC's people - others do also. We should all try not to burn bridges ... |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
56. I think I agree with that |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. GD: Politics is a discussion forum |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I know, I know ... well it is a valid suggestion but it's your choice - that's understood. nt |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. FYI - Yet ANOTHER poll showing Hillary flipping yet ANOTHER Red State...nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. There's an old adage that also applies to Politics: Be careful of who you step on as you are |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
15. When was the election? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. it was when the media decided she |
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jackbourassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
18. Dukakis led George H.W. Bush by 17%... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I hope HRC doesn't make the same mistakes the Dukakis people made. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. Yup, that's something we need to remember in 2008 |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
19. How did Edwards do? |
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AlGore-08.com (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
20. Just F.Y.I. "46%" is not a flip. Gore got 46% in 2000, Kerry got 43% in 04 |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. But Hillary is leading the republicans - Gore and Kerry lost to them |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. No, because the undecideds will likely go Republican as it gets closer to the election... |
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AlGore-08.com (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 05:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
61. In both 2000 and 2004 there was similar speculation that Bush would loose WV |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #20 |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
21. In a 22% liberal state, you can safely say Hillary flipped it with 46% |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Link please? What date? nt |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Surely you didn't miss the wailing and gnashing of teeth here last week? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Thank you, wyldwolf. You're a gentleman and a scholar :-) nt |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
26. And they say Hillary can't win? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
29. ROFLMAO! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. In other words, you know in your heart this isn't true. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
31. This early in the game and a poll with a MOE of 5%. Seems a little flimsy. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
32. It's not surprising, they always liked reactionaries. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. how does Clinton even approach the definition of a "reactionary?" |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. We used to call those who support wars of aggression fascists. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. and you're misusing that word, too. But you didn't answer my question |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. hint: supporting the Iraq war was a reactionary thing to do. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. ok, then, let's just say we run with your definition of "reactionary." |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. opposition to useless war is reactionary (as in rightist)??? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. the broader definition of reactionary is "reacting before thinking." |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. What thoughtful person supported Bush's attack on Iraq??? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. are we only using Iraq as a basis for the definition of "reactionary?" |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Supporting the media monopolies is also a right-wing assault on our values |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 05:35 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. you're going to continue avoiding the question, huh? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
35. What NONE of the polls consider: |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. none of the polls consider it because there is no way to measure anything you wrote |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. "we can lose 1.3% from the left and be fine" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. Dems have momentum now. Not so in 2000. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 05:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
63. That's good. I can have a restful '08 then. No day after day knocking |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. it's not just defections to another candidate, it's the overwhelming number who stay |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
38. West Virgina used to be blue until 2000 election |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
64. The 1994 Feinstein ban, and the whole ban-nonhunting-guns issue |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
41. I just got back from a week in WVa |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. They are cosponsoring legislation to deauthorize the IWR so who knows |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. that's right |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
52. HRC is more electable than Obama in West Virginia? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
53. A bit OT, but a question |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
54. Hillary flips red States, Obma just flip. NT |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
55. And I have some oil fields in Alaska I'd like to sell you. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. so, you know in your heart these numbers are not accurate? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It's..."The Feeling"...nt |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
65. The interesting tidbit here is that 22% WV voters are self described liberals |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
66. Fantastic. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. i think so also--yet I lean towards Edwards |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
68. THe main thing this news dies... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Exactly |
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Like It Is (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
69. Hillary is a loser! |
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