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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:25 PM Original message |
I've never seen Clark look so concerned. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. General Clark has good reason to be concerned |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. It blows my mind that strategic thinkers, like Clark, who have the |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It is mind-blowing. |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. He blows my mind |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. But, you see, the American people wanted to have a beer with President Nincompoop. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. The nincompoop probably actually lost both elections |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. shrubuya and darth cheney were NEVER, NEVER legally and lawfully elected! |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
63. Wait! You forgot about the "charm offensive?" |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
105. Yes, I rember that now and three other very "important" criteria: |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I forgot to add that back in the primaries Evan Thomas of NEWSWEEK |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
64. Who wants to have a beer with an alcoholic nincompoop? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 06:37 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. So THAT'S where Bush got his "strategery" for Iraq. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
59. It's more likely a teleconference |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. That's the way a poker table looks these days |
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Harry Monroe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
68. Actually, I think it is an episode of the "Sopranos" |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
84. I felt that way ever since * was installed. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. "that there will be no permanent US bases in Iraq." Tell that to Hillary, General! |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Clark gave us all early warning on this |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Clark gave a radio interview today and the Gaurdian article was brought up. |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Wes sounded just totally, utterly frustrated in that interview... |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
51. Let's hope |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Just as the " I-word" is gaining wide usage, so is the "C-word" in different circles. |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
89. That might be our only hope. |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Yes he mentioned the article in an interview this morning. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
49. better tell that to Clark, too |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #49 |
77. Two important points |
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disndat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
79. H.C. weasel words |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. He's certainly got his game face on there. He's my guy! nt |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm supporting Clark for VP or Secretary of State. |
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Wesin04 (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. He ought to be on the ticket |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 05:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
35. Ding, Ding, Ding, We Have A Winner!!! n/t |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. I second that Dinger! |
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colorado_ufo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #15 |
58. Agree! |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
90. Yes, The question should be...Who would you like to buy a beer for? |
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colorado_ufo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #90 |
104. LOL! Project away! |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. The people who should be running for prez are too busy doing the things a president should do |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. He may have calculated that if he runs to win the nomination, he'd have to abandoned his best advice |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. LittleC, I haven't totally given up on Clark running yet... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
99. I haven't given up either Carol, |
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abburdlen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. It wasn't that long ago |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. He's giving the administration an ultimatum |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. K&R |
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nevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. I am confused |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Sen. Clinton has found herself a new general |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. ... |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. HC never listened to WKC before the IWR |
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Kat 333 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 05:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
34. What Clark has said about Clinton ... |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. "I'm a great admirer of Senator Clinton. I think she's terrific" |
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Kat 333 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
74. Oh I see ... |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Yep, your bad |
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Kat 333 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Who specified Hillary ? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. The fact is that Clark came in without ever having ran a campaign for office |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. ...though McAuliff had absolutely no trouble |
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Kat 333 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. "conspiracy" ? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. Excellent! Unfortunately, many have said it.....even if they weren't you..... |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Almost every 2004 campaign |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Bottom line for me... |
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Kat 333 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Exactly What Point Is It ... |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Perhaps you just need practice |
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Kat 333 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Perhaps You Doth Protest Too Much ... |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #96 |
110. You must be a real media novice |
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Kat 333 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. btw |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. He's said similar things about most of the other Democratic leaders |
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Kat 333 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
103. ABC said no such thing. Clark did. |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Calm down. Just a typo. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Apparently I know more about what he said than you (or ABC) do |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. ROFL, boy you really nailed it |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Straight out of Lehane's playbook |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
20. He looks weary.....and so he should. He's been prothetically ahead of the curve for years...... |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Yes, we are a backward stupid country. Everyone... Dem or Rethug |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. Hear Hear!! General Clark.... |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
24. He's just tired |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
27. "At the most benign level, the US is in hot competition economically..." |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Please tell me exactly what part of that paragraph you most disagree with. |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. first: "...to capture its share of oil exports and earnings" |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. Let's put things back in context. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. Yes, but Clark gave an overview of interests generally accepted as legitimate |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I think it's important to note |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #30 |
100. "At the most benign level" |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I believe that Clark understands very well, |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. What about Clark's sense of US entitlement to a share of ME'ern wealth? |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #102 |
108. No such thing -- you're making that up... again |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #102 |
111. This is nonsense 1932 |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. First question: |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Actually no |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. So, can we talk about this after you've read one or both of them? |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Sure, if we can discuss the views of other leading Democrats also. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. If only we had two long books written by the other candidates |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. I want to make one thing clear from the start |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. ..and I want to make one thing clear |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Fair enough, and no doubt good advice. n/t |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 01:38 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Tom, I agree with 1932 that you (we, everyone) should read those books, and I suspect that Clark |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 08:18 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. I strongly suspect the same, ConsAreLiars |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. That approach is pragmatic, unifying and uplifting. |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #121 |
131. thanks, Tom ... |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #118 |
130. link to my exchange with General Clark |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 06:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
107. When you said "let's take it a sentence...at a time" |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Wimping out, 1932? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. Read the post order Frenchie. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Excellent book, excellent point. |
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ArkySue (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
31. K & R |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
32. I think Wes Clark will enter the race for 2008 |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. So September 4th is the date many of us are waiting for. That's when |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
33. k+r |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
36. Was Or Will This Be Televised? |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
37. Something is up. Something bad. Many repugs alarmed as well. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
38. K&R |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
42. I have |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
45. All together now... |
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jlayson (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
48. Wes Clark |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Wes Clark with his DU bumper sticker |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. proof |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
72. Wow! |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
53. More war. More Vietnamization. More meddling in the Middle East. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. Please explain what part of Clark's testimony you disagree with. nt |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
91. By any chance are you related to a vulture? |
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pork medley (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
113. i agree |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. The U.S. has an alliance with Israel |
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pork medley (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. the US has no interest in resolving tensions between israel & palestine |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 07:04 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. I live on the same planet as U.S. President Jimmy Carter n/t |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
54. Notice this part about the bases? |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
56. Why at my core, I am a Clarkie. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
85. Same here. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
97. I hope he is offered a position in the Democratic administration. |
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19jet54 (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
62. Gen. Clark |
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Sooz (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
75. Please cross-post this to kos |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
86. I will read the whole thing |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-17-07 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
92. This won't please the "Withdraw everyone immediately" crowd |
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95. "if the Administration refuses to change its strategy appropriately" |
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122. Clark is handsome and intelligent, very unusual combination |
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