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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:44 PM Original message |
I don't think Wes Clark would have endorsed Clinton so early in the game unless... |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. please.gawd. NO!!! |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Wrong |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. So, what is your take on this? n/t |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. Or he's positioning himself as interested in the VP slot. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Well, yeah - Obviously, he must believe for sure that Hillary's going to win and, |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I was thinking the same thing about Biden, but his interest is in SecState. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. I would rather see him as Sec. of Defense |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. If true, that is very disappointing. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. As do I - what makes that disappointing? n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Because HRC has proven herself to be anyhting but, time and again. n/t |
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Menemsha (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
99. Clark is honorable to a fault- nothing has changed |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Too bad he can't be sec of defense |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Okay, I'll bite - why can't he be Sec. of Defense? n/t |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. You have to be out of the military for 10 years |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Thanks! n/t |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Oof - didn't know that! But, now that I do, that reinforces my initial thought about HRC possibly |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Well, or even |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Sec'y of State? IS THERE such a position? And, if so, who holds it now? ... |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Are you serious? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Strangest question I've seen on DU |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Sometimes it's hard to tell with sarcasm |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. No. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. lol, you scared me for a minute. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Sorry! Couldn't resist. n/t |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Thanks for clairfying |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I honestly can't think of one constructive thing that she's done. What a sham/shame. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Thanks! |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. She is buying her house in California with |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
86. And...? n/t |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. by law |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Thank you! n/t |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Well, we can change that law. Bush said that everything has changed since 9/11. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. well I happen to think it's a good law |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I agree 100% |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. I think he'd make an awesome Secy. of Defense, too - he's not at all blood-thirsty. nt |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
80. He can't be Secretary of Defense. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. Thank you for explaining this to me three hours after the other DUers have done so |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #93 |
123. Thank you for the snark. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
96. He would, but |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
114. Okay, knock it off!! |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
122. He would be an amazing Sec of Def |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. No, Clark sees the writing on the wall and is |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You win |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
81. Except it would help her win Arkansas. |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #81 |
119. She'll carry Arkansas |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. There are plenty of other possibilities |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. I doubt it has much to do with that. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Yes, promises in the dark. nt |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
20. She will not win so we do not have to worry about that. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Oh, I think she will. Choosing Clark for VP would be a good move on her part. |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
27. Its not that early. Clark wants to campaign around in the Fall |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Spoke to him, did you? |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. He'll go on talk shows, hang out in NH and do some photo |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Maybe he'll hire you to write his itinerary |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Sure, I'll have him on MTP on Sunday |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
97. He is employed by MSNBC |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. DUers better get used to the fact that Hillary will be the Nominee. |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Bill doesn't have the organization required for Chief of Staff |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Bill can't be anywhere in the cabinet |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Bill can't be Chief of Staff |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. Was this law passed after JFK appointed RFK as Attorney Genl? n/t |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. The Anti-Nepotism law of 1967 n/t |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Thanks, Tammy. I've often wondered about that but didn't know. n/t |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Hey, it's just one of those facts I've picked up along the way |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 06:36 AM Response to Reply #41 |
108. I would be interested to read analysis that supports that conclusion. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. Not if they're related. n/t |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Of course it doesn't matter much |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. "...Maybe raise some cash for himself..." ? He can't "raise" cash for himself if he's no longer |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
94. He's trying to stay relevent |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
32. I believe it is more likely than not that the Democratic ticket will be Clinton/Clark. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
87. I agree. Maybe he declared for her this early to sort of float a trial balloon, see |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. however, which states can Clark help win |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
39. He definately sold out for something... |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Agree...what a sh*tty thing to do to his supporters..... |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. As a long time Clark supporter, I'm absolutely delighted! |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Not in my party :( n/t |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Well, then good luck with your own party! |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
70. Guess you will find a different candidate than Clark's, right? |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Clark has been working fervently to get Democrats elected. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Hmm - which thread was that? n/t |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. None, he is in a snit because people aren't falling in line. (NT) |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
71. Endorsing Hilary doesn't ensure a victory... it ensures a loss. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
89. Given the state of the union and the country under Bush, do you honestly think |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
101. there are a few... |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. Maybe he doesn't think he sold out. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. There is no "maybe" about it. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. No question it is a sell out. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Whatever. You have obviously made up your closed mind. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. The actions say it all. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. If he agrees with Hillary's policies, why is a 'sell out' implied? n/t |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Because they aren't on the same page... |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. What he's fought for is to get Democrats elected. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Like I said, he chose POLITICS over PRINCIPLES. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
58. It's an interesting situation. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Yes, a lot of people were excited about an Obama/Clark possibility. Now they'll |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Just because Clark endorsed Hillary |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #68 |
83. No, it's not a 'given' that Hillary gets the nomination, not by a long shot. I think |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. No I don't think it's a lock for anyone either |
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Menemsha (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
98. To help change your mind - |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:25 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. I think Clark is honorable, dedicated - all those good things. I also love Obama. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #58 |
121. If you spend any time at Clark Community Network |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
69. You couldn't be more wrong. He LOST in '04. No one is going to touch ... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 06:10 AM Response to Reply #69 |
105. Uh, Kerry picked Edwards. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. They didn't lose a prior election. It was all the same election. See the difference? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Wrong -- Gore ran in 1988. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #112 |
125. Well, we'll see. Hey, I'd vote for him. But I doubt he's in for a VP slot... |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
78. I hope not |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
82. If not VEEP, Sec of Defense or Sec of State. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. He can't be Sec'y. of Defense, by law (see further up on this thread). n/t |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. OK, I thought it was less time than that. I don't doubt he would be |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I agree with you on that. n/t |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. If he is put on the ticket, his supporters will support him and |
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pa28 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
92. Wes showed himself a tireless campaigner for Democrats in 2006. |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
100. Likely. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
102. No! n/t |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
104. No. |
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cleveramerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
106. Jumping on the bandwagon |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
107. Yes. |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
110. That would be an interesting ticket n/t |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
111. I think it's too easy an assumption to make |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. very sound logic. n/t |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. He is unique, though. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I can't think of a better running mate, either |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
120. Not necessarily, but I do think he's interested in VP |
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CarolNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. hey ripple.... |
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