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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:44 PM Original message |
Funny how opinions of Clark have suddenly changed since he endorsed Hillary. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Clark is a great man. I admire him. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. So do I. |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. disappointed |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I'm disappointed that he didn't run. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. "I always wanted to see him debate W. on national security" |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. I am too |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. I agree |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Clark is an idealist in spirit but a realist by necessity |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #35 |
94. Wow, very nice analysis. |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
105. May be Clark knows something you don't |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. it is just that i have been hoping for a |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Can he do that now? I mean, now that he has endorsed Hillary? |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. i don't see why not.... |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
67. Gore won't get in now. It would not be what is best for the Party. |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. not for nothing, but --- |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #67 |
92. I think Gore would sweep Hill right off the map! nt |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. Funny ha-ha, or funny hmmmmmmmm...? |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Ok, maybe not so funny. |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. Clark is a special kind of Dem |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. How long have YOU heard Hillary2008 was operational, Cap'n? |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Well I can't argue with Greider, I think I mentioned it in '99 :^) |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. There's also good possibility Wes may not have been cognizant that he |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. BTW - the way I heard it in 2001, the fight was described as the Kennedy Dems |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
68. Clark did a great service for the Democratic Party and America by appearing on FOX news. |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I don't agree-but I despise Faux News |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Obviously, you never watched Clark on Fox News. |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:34 AM Response to Reply #70 |
89. It was a lot more entertaining than you might expect. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
90. Capn, you and I agree quite a bit on Obama, but please |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. I have not heard that great disappointment. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. Look back at the 2004 race and you will see many Clinton friends |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm a long time Clark supporter, and I'm not surprised by this or disappointed. |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. I love seeing that Clinton/Clark ticket. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. I'm not sure about Sec. of Defense. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. He's not eligible for Sec of Defense anyways |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. It says he is pragmatic, |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Spot on. nt |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. I've always liked Clark |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. I haven't changed my opinion of him, |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
21. My opinion of Clark has never changed. n/t |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
22. Being anti-Hillary must trump being pro-anyone else, it would seem. n/t |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
23. His endorsement of her doesn't bother me.I'm holding out for the coveted Xasthur endorsement. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. He chose POLITICS over PRINCIPLES. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. He chose doing the most he can to ensure Democratic victory. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. His actions suggest otherwise. |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. He chose loyalty over politics |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. I disagree and explained why above |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. That is EXACTLY what I said.. he chose POLITICS over PRINCIPLES. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I think it depends on the meaning we assign those words |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Tell that to Colin Powell |
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sundancekid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. and my dog ate my political principles ... sorry, but cognitive dissonance |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
80. Bill Clinton sent his Secretary of State to North Korea's Capital |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #80 |
106. I agree with Tom, here |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. In what way? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Who he chose to endorse... |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Wes has had a solid relationship with the Clintons for years. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Same thing as the dems who endorsed Holy Joe |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. I doubt that he sees it that way. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Unless it was for personal gain, as it seems to be. (NT) |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
82. or maybe you're just wrong |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Sadly, This time I am not (nt) |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Yes |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #95 |
101. No, because of a simple thing called FACTS. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. its never been a case of the people picking their own candidates anyway. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
64. And did you notice, they always pick for us pro-war candidates? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. yeah, media corps have munitions branches. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. It's disappointing |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
31. i'm kind of disappointed he isn't running but my opinion of him hasn't changed at all. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
34. They likely offered him a high position in an administration |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Most Likely to Help them END the War! nm |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. "Secretary of ending War" |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
41. Not mine |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
43. Mine haven't. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
51. My opinion on him hasn't changed much |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
52. My opinion of him hasn't changed one iota |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
53. Clark is one of our very best Democrats. |
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bluedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
55. I thnk its great! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
56. Clark can endorse who |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
58. My first choice of 2004 endorses my first choice of 2008! |
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Turner Ashby (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. My entire opinon of Wes Clark....down the tubes. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. good. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #60 |
91. But was it anywhere but in the "tubes" is the question? |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
62. I haven't changed a bit. I will vote anti-war in 2008, as I did in 2004. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
63. Funny how you are almost completely wrong about this |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. I dunno. I have read a lot of comments about being disappointed in him. n/t |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #63 |
88. I suggest that you take another look around. |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
69. I don't understand the shock and outrage. I was a huge Clark supporter in 2003-04. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
71. My opinion of him has not changed |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
72. I want Clark to explain Hillary Clinton's IWR vote convincingly |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Oh, wow |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Explain to me why I should respect Wesley Clark's opposing views on the war |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #83 |
100. If you want a battle of the endorsees, bring it on |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #72 |
85. Ooops, there it is. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #72 |
93. This post might steer me away from Obama more than any I have seen...... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Factcheck.org is "left wing bullshit"? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Here..... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Thanks FC |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Levin called for another IWR vote in Congress |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
76. Endorsements are not that big of a deal. No one is swayed by them. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. I'm feeling somewhat of a sway, actually. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Like Oprah's endorsement of Obama? |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
103. Oprah is probably the exception to the rule. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
81. Same here: only two choices for Clark |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
84. He must of felt as an old friend he had to endorse her. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #84 |
96. Of course he could.... |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
87. My opinion is exactly the same. |
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Rene (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
98. Clark should be a Presidential Candidate. |
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maxanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
104. no surprise |
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