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Meeker Morgan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:37 PM Original message |
Venezuela's Chavez Warns Private Schools (Who else here has a problem with this? I do.) |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. Don't be silly. He's not a dictator. Just ask him. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Did you read the article? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yeah, I did. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. the aim is to develop "critical thinking," not to impose a single way of thought. Your problem with |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. So explain to me exactly how |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
63. The "values of cooperation and solidarity" of the people vs the pro capatalist propaganda |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
79. Quite apart from which |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #63 |
118. Somewhere inside you must recognize ... |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
130. HE is the DEMOCRATICLY elected President of his country. The Socialist policies he is pesuing are |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Amazing |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Reminds me of Chairman Mao, actually. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
74. Wow-You're Taking Me Back To My Comparative Politics Course |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Takes me back to logic class. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
86. Like I just said elsewhere in the thread |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
121. You know that Venezuela was NOT discovered by Europe, right? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. LOL!! Anyone here really believe he's interested in developing "critical thinkers"? |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. It is difficult |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
65. The joke is that US schools are all pro capitalist indoctrination. |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:54 AM Response to Reply #65 |
120. What public school did you attend? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. Then you must not have attended any public school in the USA. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
94. I was about to say the same - no big deal unless our US State curriculum rules are evil n/t |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
85. Well, you might not want to think that out loud |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. yeah, I have a problem with it. |
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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. Everything Chavez does is great. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. private schools are much more accountable |
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
112. and what about people who |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:28 AM Response to Reply #112 |
116. they go to state schools |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
87. Everything? Absolutely everything? |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. problem here too |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. With all respect, there's an enormous difference between |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. What's the issue ? |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. Viva Chavez! |
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Flarney (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. No problem here. n/t |
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Bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. If it looks like a duck.....it's a Dictator |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Of course |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. it could be a loon |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. seig heil hugo nt |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. What an asinine remark. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. Viva the Opposition ... |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Yeah, Venezuela really needs another reactionary oligarchy... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
66. DId you forget Jimmy Carter, Amnesty International, and HRW...? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
88. Fascists, all of them. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:55 AM Response to Reply #66 |
108. It's sad when the efforts of those groups are only used to justify attacking nations. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
73. Next - the antis here will be whining |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
89. Why do they hate America? |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:03 AM Response to Reply #89 |
122. deleted |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
20. Literacy in Venezuela 1991 vs 2005 (unesco's latest data) |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. How many of those illiterates went to privates schools vs. public schools? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. My guess is that illiterates don't go to school. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
70. It's not just no child left behind |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #70 |
125. NCLB is just indicative of the hypocrisy on display here. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
22. Ah, another Chavez-bashing DU circle jerk. |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. American schools did a really good job at capitalist indoctrination. |
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jaksavage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Roger that High Plains |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Not always true |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Consider your location... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
76. I Went To School In Rural Florida |
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jaksavage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. With all due respect |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. with all due respect |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. It's beyond sickening. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. so anything that doesn't fit into your ideology |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. No... right wing is right wing. n/t |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
77. which to you is anything right of your ideology |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
92. There was a picture of Reagan in the newspaper office where I used to work |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #92 |
128. Actually that's completely backwards. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. Mean old Chavez, standardizing education in his country |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
61. I don't know. Is Bush's brother in charge of it like Chavez's brother is there? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
91. Criticism is not bashing |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. "Society cannot allow the private sector to do whatever it wants" |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
30. There are more dangerous concerns |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. How some people can twist their brains to support this guy is beyond me. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Because he's doing some good things. He's still heading dictatorwards, though. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Good reply. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
78. oh sure |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. I think you misunderstand democracy. It's nothing to do with the distribution of wealth. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Uhm |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I think the USA trivially disproves your point. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #83 |
105. er or err? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Passionatly supporting this? |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. this isn't talking about public education |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. exactly! |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. I hear ya! |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I hear you. |
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:15 AM Response to Reply #31 |
113. Chavez - Bush |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Neither. |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
45. Chavez has crossed the line into dictatorship. n/t |
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FuJun (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
46. Excellent... |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
47. Don't U.S. schools have accreditation standards? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Don't trust facts, trust your "gut" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. ... |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. Yeah, Pat Robertson and his supporters don't like him either, and if it's good enough for Pat, it's |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. nope |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. Universities earn accreditation... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. and there is no legal requirement to be accredited |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
90. A high school can't give out diplomas without meeting state standards. NT |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Bullshit |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Do state colleges have admission standards... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:20 AM Response to Reply #101 |
114. of course |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. I knew someone had to ask this question. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #67 |
109. I bet you didn't realize that you lived in a totalitarian dictatorship |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #109 |
119. Nope, this is quite a shocking revelation. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
53. So we should let the Madrassas in Iraq continuing teaching kids to become terrorists? n/t |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. sure. |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
55. I don't like the tone of it.... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
59. National education standards are fine but why is ideology part of this at all? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. It's a position in his cabinet |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Did he have any qualifications for the position? |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Probably the same amount |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Well Bobby did serves as counsel and chief counsel to a number of Congressional committees. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
98. Oh funny |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #64 |
110. What were Hillary's qualifications for reforming healthcare under Bill? |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:24 AM Response to Reply #110 |
115. i dunno |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
100. After I asked the same question, I remembered RFK and JFK |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. but because of the jfk/rfk situation a law was passed |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
71. Sounds like Chavez's version of "No child left behind". |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
82. The oil company press releases are really successful. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #82 |
95. You talk about everything except the thing that's actually being discussed. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Very well said. The other response that gets my goat |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 11:21 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. You don't "approve"? |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #106 |
117. None of those regimes have support bases on DU. |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
84. With everything on our plate in THIS country.... why are we in this man's business? |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. No, they won't be able to. That's precisely what this move is about. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
93. B,but rich people should be able to do whatever they want... privately! |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
102. Chavez is on track to turn Venezuela into another Cuba |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 01:03 AM Response to Reply #102 |
111. And George Washington could never tell a lie. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
103. Those private schools are for the very wealthy, and are run by Opus Dei clerics |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #103 |
127. Oh brother! |
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ludwigb (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
107. I sympathize with Chavez |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #107 |
126. "You can't allow the school system to be a hotbed of revolutionary action" |
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124. I love all the "pro-capitalist" bashers on DU |
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