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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:16 AM Original message |
Would you support Thomas Jefferson as president today? |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. No. He owned Slaves |
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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Owning slaves was wrong BUT common for the time... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Gee, that's an original argument |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. His mind was agile enough to have made the necessary adjustments |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I agree |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. The age factor would be an issue for me ... |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. LOL |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. While breathing isn't formally listed as a qualification to serve as president... |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. Probably not. His owning slaves, alone, would have made him a no-go for me. |
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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Owning slaves was common then though. |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Doesn't mean it was right. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. But it does show your comments are egregiously off topic |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. ('egregiously') Off-Topic? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. I am reminded here of someone's flippant comment about Maggie Thatcher: |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
9. Everything must be seen in context. He was still revolutionary for his age. |
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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. He would not have kept the slaves I am sure but the other views yes. |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I do not think that is knowable for sure. People do change and intelligent ones especially. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Jefferson's views became increasingly rigid and conservative as he got older. |
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reality based (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
11. "We hold these truths to be self evident |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
13. He DID believe in free college - I do like that, otherwise most of the rest is freeperville. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
14. These days, Thomas Jefferson couldn't be elected to school board. |
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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Yes he was for Separation of Church and state. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
18. Many on DU would not support Jefferson, Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, etc. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Ain't that the truth. n/t |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. I have to echo that |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
20. that would depend on what Thomas Jefferson believed today |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Yes---this is the problem with this question posed by in the OP |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
23. It probably helps to understand that he took those stands in the context of his time. |
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riona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. How true |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
24. I'm surprised you're still here MetalCanuck. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
25. No |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
29. So tell us what your positions on those things would've been 200 years ago |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. How can we know? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
33. Not unless he'd moved with the times... |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. In the context of his times, yes |
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