John Edwards wins DailyKos Straw Poll - 39% to Obama's 21% and Clinton's 11%

[jsamuel]

John Edwards posted a huge gain of +5 points which is especially relevent since his next closest competitor, Barack Obama fell 8 points.

John Edwards now has twice as much support as the closest candidate behind him.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/24/14749/6819

dKos Reader Poll. 9/24 -- 9:49 a.m. to 11 a.m. PT. 6,318 respondents.

2007 2006
Sept Aug Jul Jun May Apr Mar Feb Jan Dec Jul May

Edwards 39 34 36 40 39 42 38 26 35 28 15 8
Obama 21 29 27 22 24 25 26 25 28 28
H. Clinton 11 8 9 6 6 3 3 4 4 5 2 2
Dodd 7 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Kucinich 6 7 4 3 2 2 2 4
Other 5 4 7 9 6 5 9 8 * * 3 6
No F'ing Clue 5 4 5 7 7 5 8 6 * * 3 4
Richardson 1 6 6 5 8 13 8 6 5 4 2 1
Biden 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1
Gravel 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 0 0

[wyldwolf]

1. Just want to point out something ironic about Markos' statement

Having watched the straw poll results coming in the last few months, I've noted that once you have a certain sized sample -- a couple of thousand of respondents -- the numbers vary little until the poll hits the various candidate fan sites, message boards, and list-servs. Then, the numbers will move significantly as legions of supporters freep the poll.

Isn't dKos for all extents and purposes a "candidate fan site, message board, and list-serv" for John Edwards?

Did he see Hillary hitting that 11% and say, "whoa! gotta put an end to this!"

[jsamuel]

3. No and no

There is not "DailyKos listserv". The front page RARELY has anything on it about Edwards at all. The only reason why Edwards dominates DailyKos is because the READERS like him, not because the site admin likes him. In fact, none of the site's admin have endorsed Edwards while several of them have endorsed Obama.

Clinton went up to 12% earlier before he called the poll over. She was actually going down when he stopped it.

[Catchawave]

9. wyld - were you at Yearly Kos ?

In Chicago, last month ?

[maximusveritas]

11. Looks like he stopped it when he got the result he wanted

It's not like the poll ever meant anything, but now it's just a joke.

[Catchawave]

16. not at all:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/24/124656/503

[maximusveritas]

21. Sure, people can still vote, but it won't count since he's already released the "official" results

That's why he got 6000 votes in the first hour. And about the same 6000 votes in the 6 hours since then.
People aren't voting if their vote won't count toward the final results.

[Catchawave]

24. The percentages are the same....

Did you notice...at 6k, at 12k ... and last month at 22k :shrug:

[Botany]

2. all over but the clean up .... Edwards has it wrapped up.

[Catchawave]

22. Bot ! Hi !

...and thank you for a dial-up friendly :loveya: photo :hi: Here's one for you:

[Tom Joad]

4. Hillary did a little better this time. Kos is is a bit more conservative.

[jsamuel]

5. Yes she did. I think there has been an increase of Hillary Supporters coming to the website.

[calteacherguy]

6. I forgot, how many delegates does DailyKos have? Somebody remind me...nt

[Reno.Muse]

8. I believe the delegate stuff is crap

and rigged and I speak from attending past Dem state caucuses in which we were told to change our votes to John Kerry so we could be uananimous with the corrupt state party that is now totally infiltrated by Clinton supporters.

Go John Edwards!

[Catchawave]

12. I met many of them at Yearly Kos.....

Also, many other boots on the ground activists. Like me.

What was your question again?

[illinoisprogressive]

7. I read that Kos only had this up for an hour.

[maximusveritas]

13. Yeah, from 9:49 a.m. to 11 a.m.

on a Monday. Not sure who's checking the site at that time, but I'm not one of them. I've actually got work to do.

[MethuenProgressive]

10. This poll shows Edwards people visit that website. Yippiefreakindoo.

Perhaps Obama and Clinton should send out mass emailings begging people to go their and vote too.
:eyes:

[Catchawave]

14. Here's the results with over 12,000 voting

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/24/124656/503

Not much difference, eh ?

[William769]

15. I don't visit that site, as I am sure others don't also.

For whatever thats worth.

[ChiciB1]

32. Ya Know... I NEVER Hear MSM Ever Make Any Comments About

DU! I've always wondered about this because this is where I blog "most of the time" yet DU seems never to get mentioned by Wolfie, Tweety or even KO!

Sooooooo, DK must be influential to some extent or they have an inside track to some hook-up! Regardless, THEY seem to be the website that matters. Huff Post gets activity too, but I will admit that I'm NOT one of those who is fixated with MSM! Since Liberal became a nasty moniker, I consider myself more of a "lefty" Progressive because society seems to think it's more palatable. Amy Goodman and I would probably get along quite well!

My point is this.. DK seems to get noticed more than DU, as Rasmussen also gets noticed! FWIW, I often wonder what "Joe Blow" really knows about any of this!!! WE are serious about what goes on, but most either don't give a rats ass, don't want to be bothered or simply "go with the flow" when someone leads them there. Name recognition is all most people understand, thus Kucinich and 2nd tier candidates only get a fly-by! Sad but true!

And HILLARY not only has name recognition, she has Corporations, Lobbyists and BIG DAWG to scoop for her. That DOES NOT mean she's the best we can do!

So for me... John Edwards has shown me that he has HEART and that matters to me. May not be what everyone sees, but I can relate to him on that level!!!

[William769]

33. Don't get me wrong I like Edwards as well. He's my second choice.

I was just making a observation.

[Turn CO Blue]

35. DKos is a great site.

We have some very good journalists here on DU, but only a few take the time to write full, researched pieces. DailyKos has hundreds of fantastic diarists, and they're all just normal, everyday activists. I think the writing is outstanding.
They get millions of readers everyday - including Keith Olbermann.

[waiting for hope]

37. So true - the Diaries over there

are more than a comment or two with an outside story posted - Don't get me wrong, I've done that here more than a dozen times and there are a TON of excellent writers here, but over at DK, there are more of the full, reserched peices.

[penguin7]

40. Except for any Presidential Primary articles

It is really the Daily Edwards. There are a bunch of Edwards supporters really skewing the debate over there.

There is some good stuff written there, but most of the stuff on the election is crap.

[slick8790]

17. Do you have an example that Edwards sent out such an email?

Or do you just want to spew your rabid anti-edwards hatred at any cost, regardless of those pesky facts?

[MethuenProgressive]

23. "spew your rabid anti-edwards hatred at any cost" too funny!

Welcome to DU, slick.

[slick8790]

26. Thank you for the welcome.

But, do you? I would expect someone who would make that assertion to have some proof. Why make something up about a straw poll?

[MethuenProgressive]

27. "Edwards people visit that website." = "rabid anti-Edwards hatred"?

Thank goodness only 12% of Democrats support a guy with fans as confused as that...

[slick8790]

28. Seems like you're the one who's confused.

"Perhaps Obama and Clinton should send out mass emailings begging people to go their and vote too."

That is what I was asking you to prove. I'm on the email lists for all the candidates that have them, and I saw no such email from John Edwards. Unless you happen to be on a special list, you're just blowing smoke about his campaign begging people to go to Kos and vote.

And the "rabid anti-edwards hatred" is not just from this post, but the pattern i'ven noticed in your posts around DU.

[rjones2818]

18. All I know is...

I won't trust Markos with any GOTV operations from here on out.

:banghead:

[nam78_two]

19. Nice.nt

[Honeycombe8]

20. Interesting, but DailyKos is not reflective of the Democratic voter population. nt

[BootinUp]

29. So true. n/t

[waiting for hope]

38. And DU is?

Explain, please.

[Honeycombe8]

39. No, DU isn't, either. A poll of DU posters would not indicate...

who would win a general election any more than a poll of DailyKos readers.

Both have readers/posters with certain points of view.

The valid polls are done by services who follow a methodology to get a cross section of voters.

[robcon]

25. I would have thought it was Kucinich.

This is pretty shocking, IMO.

Good for John, he would make a good candidate - just like my favorite, Clinton.

[ChiciB1]

30. WELL... Amazing That We Notice That THERE ACTUALLY Are

other candidates running besides HILLARY! Gee, hearing all the HOOPLA FROM THE WEEK-END AND today, anybody would think we ONLY HAD ONE person WHO IS A CANDIDATE in the Democratic Party!!

I simply can't understand why we MUST HAVE HILLARY, come hell or high water! Frankly, she scares me to death! Especially since THE DECIDER has started to rally the WING-NUTS into a frenzy by promoting her candidacy and gathering his corrupt money-makers to push the AGENDA to make sure they stick it to us once again!

WAKE-UP... I'm really sick of this HILLARY is all we have crap!

I will apologize a little, I'm just ticked off by this PUSH-POLL for HILLARY or NOTHING stuff!

[2rth2pwr]

31. How many times did Elizabeth vote? nt

[zulchzulu]

34. Do these polls have any real meaning?

I can vote multiple times if I delete the cookie and go back on the site again. Wow.

[IA_Seth]

36. No, but they make for great online arguments, don't they?

I don't understand why people get so worked up, the only thing these polls MAY show are which candidates have strong support among online democratic activists. Even then, I know I didn't vote in it... how many like me?

11,000 votes... even 25,000 votes.. what does that really translate into when you start counting bodies standing in a caucus, or waiting in line at a primary.

Very little, in my opinion.

[BigDDem]

41. Congrats to John Edwards

You've won a straw poll that means absolutely nothing!