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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:33 AM Original message |
Hillary Hostility Growing |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. Nice to see people are catching on |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
121. One can only hope enough people "catch on" soon enough! (NT) |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. If the democratic party nominates her, then I will no longer be a democrat. |
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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. That is true. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. "Members of the same gang"? Nonsense. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 02:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. You can't get through to a mob-mentality. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
52. Hillary is NOT pro Universal HealthCare!!! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Bush is about to veto S-CHIP, the very successful children's program. |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. HER pro profit, pro insurance stance has |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 06:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
88. Pro.,... |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
103. John Nichols summarized the Hillary plan nicely. |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Then Don't Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Really? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. None of the Dems running are anything like Lieberman. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Sorry I disagree. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
104. How did Clintons differ from Lieberman from 2001-2006 on war policy? |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
120. I agree with you pnwmom. |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
63. "If you are an American, you support who the Democratic nominee is." is the worst I've heard |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
79. I second that. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 08:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
122. Funny how that didn't work in Connecticut in 2006. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. The world is full of ignorant assholes, isn't it? |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. You got that right 76 of them just voted for Kyle/Lierberman. |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. some of the same assholes voted for a war about oil in 2002. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
74. I'm feeling the same way. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
85. Far Better To Stay And Fix The Party |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
106. Why not leave now and avoid the stampede? |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. You probably shouldn't be so smug. History proves that Dems don't win when |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. History won't elect the next president, moderate Americans will.(nt) |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it, remember Nader? |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
3. Hillary's making a devastating mistake |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 02:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
26. Okay, it's a bad thing that's she's running a genral election strategy because???? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. Refusing to answer questions isn't going to get her far with the independents. |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
84. Clinton is campaigning now, as if it were the general election, as a tactic to win the primary. |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #84 |
94. Excellent analysis. She is the worst national candidate we can put up |
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hedgetrimmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. Perhaps the fix is in. n/t |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
5. Levi, I feel the same. I turn in my democratic card if Hillary gets the nod. |
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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Welcome to independent land:) |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. It may not be my party, but it is still my country and it is still MY vote! |
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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Good man, this is all I am saying. |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I'm glad it makes sense to someone. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Makes sense to me too |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
95. do you have any idea just how bad a Giuliani Presidency would be? |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #95 |
111. Kyle/ Lieberman. You are more then welcome to do what you will with your vote |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Kye/Lieberman is a travesty. But a GOP Presidency would still be far, far, far worse |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. First let me say thank you, it is refreshing to see someone engage the issue instead of |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. if the election of a genuine progressive in 2012 could repair all the damage done by four more years |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #95 |
118. Excellent, informative post. (eom) |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. As you know, Obama's record in the Senate is extremely similar |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Because I cannot support a candidate... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. OT Interesting site. I was just tooling around it and boy, |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. I also hear that Clinton and Obama take very near the same number of bathroom breaks |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
45. Now THAT'S worth throwing a party for. Can't wait |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
61. We'll sure miss you. |
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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. Thank you, wonderful post. RIGHT ON! |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
10. there is no "-esque" about it. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
12. With Obama we all win. |
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MetalCanuck (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. If Obama renouced CFR membership I would be all for him |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 02:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Don't discount somebody just because they're a member of the CFR -- I |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Obama Will Never Win, Obama Doesn't Have The Goods |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
68. I don't. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #68 |
83. DU doesn't represent the Dem party, here is how Iowa voters see |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
82. Which people would those be? |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 06:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
89. What 'people'. nt |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
108. Hey Katz....do things ever change around here?? |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
14. One week ago, she was my #2. I thought if Biden doesn't break through |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
53. She dosen't give a rat's ass about your respect |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
76. I don't understand how the GQ story matters that much |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. Great post! I have major problems with a Hillary nomination. |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
19. A Clinton nomination will be the last "slap in the face" I'll suffer as a Democrat, next! nt |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Yeah, sure. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
20. If HRC gets the nomination... |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. People Are Here Want Candidates Packaged With A Pretty Bow |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Gee, you are new around here |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. "non-binding and a political tool to get her on the record" is everything that HRC does |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
22. Speaking of Hillary, what's the deal .... |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. And that is as it should be. |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I'm not complaining! I like it when they're few and far between... |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. An "Opinion" by Ann McFeatters is not worth the time....nm |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
49. or maybe some of us have lives to live |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
109. Amen to that!! nt |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
50. Sorry to disappoint |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
73. Yeah, baby.. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 05:37 AM Response to Reply #73 |
86. And some of us just roll our eyes at the silly little twits |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
36. For the simple FACT that our founders never intended the anointment of Political Royalty... |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
38. I look forward to the departure ofthe anti-Hillarites. The party will be much stronger without them. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I won't be leaving the Dem Party. I'm secretary of my DTC and plan on staying |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I think that prior post refers to the anti Hillary campaign here on DU. n/t |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
65. No, the party would be stronger if HRC had an ounce of integrity |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
93. No whining if their absence causes her to lose the election then, ok. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
40. Fake headline. McFatters says "almost" not "growing". Sheesh. Don't hillhates read? |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. So, just because you disagree with McFeatters, |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 06:45 AM Response to Reply #59 |
91. It was a typo |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
42. We're just tired of weasels and weaseling. It's bad enough that Bush |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
44. It will be Clinton v Romney in the general. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
71. I think that the republicans are very unhappy with their choices. |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 06:30 AM Response to Reply #71 |
90. Not a small number of those Republicans.... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
46. What ever!! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
47. An article like this is to be expected just as her positives rise, her negs fall, and she pulls away |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
101. Onward Christian Solider eh? |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
51. This post says mortgage doonboogle started under Clinton. n/t |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
58. What makes the OP think she can win the votes of the majority of Democratic voters? We do not need |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
62. Yeah. That's because she has no business running for President. |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Bingo. HRC is no leader. She wants control, that's all, as if it's her right and destiny |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. She's very intelligent, but she's not a natural leader. |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. She is cold and calculating |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #80 |
92. I think that we're talking about two different types of intelligence. |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Hey thanks for the response |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. I lean Edwards, myself, and for ideological reasons. |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Was referring to the Nazi propagandists. Sorry if I wasn't clear. n/t |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Thanks! Your comment makes plenty of sense now. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. Who was surprised to see the ObamaLogo in the OP? Anyone? Anyone? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
75. I'd like to see Senator Clinton sack anyone on her staff who was a |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
77. Hillary's numbers don't show her losing support |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
78. I find these divisive threads are incestuous ... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
81. Not according to her numbers, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
96. Ultimately I believe Obama is correct stating that Hillary will be Bushlite |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Definitely. I can't believe some DUers are eager for another DLC appeaser. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
113. Oh really.....in what way?? nt |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
97. Her Iran vote will hurt her. NBC and the Pentagon will make sure Dems dont forget |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. After all the grief she's gone through on her awful Iraq vote, |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
119. The big problem hillary has is that once people |
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