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Egnever
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:41 PM Original message |
Obama is anti gay! |
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Colobo
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great post, Egnever. |
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calteacherguy
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well said! nt. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. For someone without the first clue as to the facts, you have a lot of opinions about it |
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Egnever
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. again your problem is with mc' crackhead |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. It is truly mystifying, isn't it? |
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Egnever
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. And yet he is still |
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FredScuttle
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Toby Keith is the most popular male country singer in the country |
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hisownpetard
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:14 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Isn't Toby Keith a rabid Republican? nt |
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FredScuttle
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. No, he actually calls himself a conservative Democrat |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:20 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Absolutely! |
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FredScuttle
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Fri Nov-02-07 07:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
146. Well, Obama is the one that welcomed a homophobe to his campaign |
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
179. I don't think he's homophobic, but he should have cancelled McClurkin without a second thought. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #179 |
183. Really and alienate the people he was trying to reach out to |
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closeupready
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. Remember Bill Clinton and Sister Souljah? |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. Agreed and I think if he is smart |
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hisownpetard
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Another contest I'm gonna get to miss! nt |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Um unless I am mistaken |
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Kurt_and_Hunter
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Do you seriously believe Obama invited him because he is anti gay? |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Perhaps my post was not clear |
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babylonsister
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. No flames here - Agree totally, and thank you. nt |
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LeftyMom
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. So he's not really a bigot, only a lying panderer. Remind me never to let you defend me. |
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calteacherguy
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. For crying out loud, wouldn't you rather these people to vote Democratic???? |
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LeftyMom
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Uh, they're churchy black voters. They're going to vote Dem no matter what. |
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Egnever
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. LOL so let me get this straight |
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LeftyMom
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. No, my stance is that principle is more important than pandering. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. yes and ignore the black churchy vote |
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Kurt_and_Hunter
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Homophobia is common here. This brand of naked racism is not. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Bye I wont miss ya |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Win the black church vote, and the gay vote, and the centrist vote for that matter, on real social |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
61. Again do you really believe |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Either that or he's an idiot who can't be bothered to google his invitees |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #70 |
87. Yes cause He has the time to wory bout every entertainer |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Here in realityville, that's why you hire competent staff. And when they fuck up, you fix it asap. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:55 AM Response to Reply #90 |
98. Again what was the good answer here |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Google first, then invite. Invite somebody else with no skeletons. Avoid the whole issue. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #104 |
109. Well I would say its pretty hard to find prominent religious leaders |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. No, I'm saying the whole preminse of religion and politics like that is fucked. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #113 |
118. what in the world? |
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IndianaJones
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:50 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. you need to just give this one up dude. nt. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:56 AM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Thanks for the one liners! |
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IndianaJones
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. anytime dude. nt |
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IndianaJones
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
48. that is a racist statement. nt. |
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Chovexani
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #21 |
84. All black people are not homophobic, first of all. |
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calteacherguy
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I want those votes in the General. All of them. |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Bigotry is not a progressive principle, demonizing gay people is not inclusive, and we're not going |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Obama is not bigoted. You are not seeing the issue clearly. |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #47 |
59. One of us certainly isn't seeing this clearly. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. And thats where you have it wrong |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. So we're back to pandering. Does he want the hater demo that badly? |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:30 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Hate to break it to you they all pander |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:35 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Babe? |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Yep |
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IndianaJones
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. lol. too much. nt. |
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IndianaJones
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. LOL. babe. ha. nt. |
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eridani
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #47 |
74. No, he isn't bigoted |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Again you confuse the issue |
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eridani
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Given the fact that there are lots of gospel singers out there who are not anti-gay-- |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #81 |
92. theres lots of lots of things out there |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. the same song and dance the LGBT community has been hearing for years |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Yup and guess what |
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Maven
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
167. "It's going to continue" |
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
181. Deleted. |
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hulklogan
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. 2008: Stop your uppity gay whining, we need the new anti-gay votes to win the election nt |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Whine all you want |
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hulklogan
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #53 |
82. Of course he was after the anti-gay vote |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #82 |
96. LOL |
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hulklogan
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Fri Nov-02-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #96 |
148. Right, I took Obama calling McClurkin one of his favorites too personally |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #148 |
151. yes cause theres just no possibility in the world |
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hulklogan
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #151 |
155. You should be ashamed of yourself |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #155 |
161. My apologies |
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hulklogan
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #161 |
177. If he wasn't trying to reach out to the anti-gay vote |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #177 |
180. Once again I don't care if you vote for Obama or not. |
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jlake
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. Stop apologizing for him! |
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Kurt_and_Hunter
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. It's a carnival of cluelessness |
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calteacherguy
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Yes, but I believe it is YOU who are clueless. |
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Egnever
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. I am not apologizing for him |
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jlake
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
44. I disagree with that...he handled it just the way he wanted to... |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:30 AM Response to Reply #44 |
75. I think your confused |
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jlake
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #75 |
89. You're the one confused..."the religious vote" |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. The hope is |
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jlake
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. LOL |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Absolutely |
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jlake
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:10 AM Response to Reply #100 |
108. good luck with that. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. what in the world are you talking about? |
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jlake
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #111 |
117. Hillary, Edwards, Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, Gravel |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Sorry I am trying to understand you |
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jlake
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:46 AM Response to Reply #122 |
132. They are all at least as good as Obama on gay issues. They are all as viable for POTUS. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:56 AM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Really? |
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jlake
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #135 |
187. Link |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:31 AM Response to Reply #44 |
121. Oh that's an excellent point jlake. |
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #121 |
188. There's a reason he didn't want a black gay pastor |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. You are a disgrace to your avatar |
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calteacherguy
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Hey now. |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. How can he |
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calteacherguy
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Would you rather these folks vote Republican? |
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LeftyMom
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. 1. bigotry is not progressive 2. Obama is a centrist 3. the folks he's pandering to are already Dems |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Nice try. |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
51. Horseshit. Two of the canidates support equal marriage. Obama does not, |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I support civil unions for all. Marriage is a religious institution |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #54 |
66. Goodnight Zandor |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #51 |
69. Which two that have a chance of being elected? |
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IndianaJones
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
71. nice try yourself. that is BS. nt. |
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FredScuttle
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. It neither helps the Party nor advances the progressive movement |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. He wasn't pandering. |
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FredScuttle
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:14 AM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Curious choice then for the star of his fundraising concert, right? |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. He chose to take the high ground and do the politically courageous thing |
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Maven
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #60 |
172. Bullshit. |
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Egnever
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Cry me a river |
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calteacherguy
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. He's not promoting hatred! |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
79. lol |
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cboy4
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
23. Here's a "clue for" you Egnever....we know that Obama |
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calteacherguy
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You would prefer the "fundies" NOT vote for a Democrat????? |
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IndianaJones
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I would prefer the fundies dry up and blow away. nt. |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
52. NOT a progressive, moral, or courageous attitude. nt |
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IndianaJones
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I'm not a progressive. Too many bigots. nt. |
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FredScuttle
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. How on earth did we pull off such miracles without fundies |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. And you have Dean as your avatar? |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
46. Not if it means pissing all over minorities in the process. |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I like your HRC avatar. |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #50 |
67. I'm glad you like my avatar teach, but seriously... |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #67 |
85. WTF he wasn't reaching out to bigots |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Obama should have replaced the gospel singer with |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #94 |
106. Right none of them |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:14 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Sense when is "playing fotsie with midock" or "runing |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:20 AM Response to Reply #110 |
114. ok ill ask you the same question I asked elswhere on this thread. |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:28 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. No, you don't understand the difference. Mcwhatever |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:38 AM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Can you answer the question? |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. As I said, the difference is that he selected someone |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:25 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. people keep saying that |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:38 AM Response to Reply #128 |
131. And Egnever....please keep in mind that, speaking for |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:05 AM Response to Reply #131 |
136. hmm you mean more fundy as in |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:19 AM Response to Reply #136 |
139. Nah, not a "nutcase fundy." But definintely someone |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #23 |
80. I would aplaud any candidate willing to go to bob jones university |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #80 |
103. Of course I would condemn them, because they |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Well I guess we disagree then |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Well, using that argument, you would therefore not have |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #112 |
125. Absolutely right! |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. Egnever, I'm lost for words that you actually think |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:31 AM Response to Reply #127 |
130. so in your mind its all a matter of standing? |
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cboy4
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:46 AM Response to Reply #130 |
133. For a politician, the line is talking to and associating |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #133 |
138. I can accept that line. |
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:23 AM Response to Reply #138 |
140. Sweeet. We've reached total agreement with your post, |
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Thu Nov-01-07 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
27. Fair-minded post |
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
42. So he is a panderer and a moral coward? Is that somehow supposed to be better? n/t |
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #42 |
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
72. I love the straight people posting in this thread: "Good post! Great!" |
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
86. And I like how their guilty conciouses always prompt |
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:04 AM Response to Reply #86 |
102. I don't give a flying |
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. "I just find the circle jerk about this issue lame" |
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #105 |
116. If its near and dear to your heart then why |
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #116 |
120. It's not the bad man, it's that Obama clumsily said we have to reach out to those kinds of people. |
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #120 |
124. No where did I say it was a good move |
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Fri Nov-02-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #124 |
149. Who's demonizing religion? |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #149 |
153. You |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #153 |
156. "work on the very serious bigotry that hides itself inside of religion" |
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #156 |
174. Good idea! |
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #102 |
115. You may call it a circle jerk. I call it standing up for |
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #72 |
169. Right, and in the same breath they say our votes don't matter. |
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
129. Obama is NOT anti-gay... |
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Fri Nov-02-07 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
134. Bravo! |
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:10 AM Response to Reply #134 |
137. Remind me again of Obama's good LGBT record... |
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:27 AM Response to Reply #137 |
141. Bah just when I thought we were getting somewhere. |
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:39 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Well, even though I have a lot of problems with Hillary, |
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Fri Nov-02-07 03:45 AM Response to Reply #142 |
143. I don't know |
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Fri Nov-02-07 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
144. wow, dismissive much? |
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Fri Nov-02-07 06:35 AM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Yeah, who gives a shit about us whiny homos |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-02-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #144 |
150. Do what you gotta do |
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #144 |
175. You're so evil. |
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Fri Nov-02-07 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
147. Agree 100%. Great post!! |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
152. Many people here couldn't care less about human rights. |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #152 |
154. I care about civil rights |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #154 |
157. Couldn't saying "Donnie McClosetCase" |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #157 |
158. No. |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #158 |
160. but, but, but... |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #160 |
163. I must be... |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
159. Yes, he is |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #159 |
164. Ok I read it |
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #164 |
166. This has been explained a brazillion times but I'll try it again |
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #166 |
173. of course something was accomplished |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
162. Given your post in the GLBT forum, many DU members must think that you are. |
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Fri Nov-02-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. My post in the glbt forum? |
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #165 |
168. Responses 66 and 75 to this thread |
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #168 |
176. Thats not in the GLBT forum |
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. This isn't about you. I don't care whether you are or not. You wouldn't be the only homophobic mem |
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Fri Nov-02-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #178 |
182. your the one that started this conversation pointing at me |
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Fri Nov-02-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. Deleted |
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
170. Obama is neither a bigot nor a homophobe... |
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Fri Nov-02-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Right, he's just a phony and a hypocrite. nt |
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Fri Nov-02-07 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
189. Certain DUers will look for any reason to hate Obama. . . |
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Fri Nov-02-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. It's fair game to criticize Obama for embracing |
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