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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:54 PM Original message |
I don't understand liberal Democrats |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Right on! Great post! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. I like some of Dennis' ideas but |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I agree 100% and must admit I'm guilty of that same mentality |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. My point is this: |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
63. Thank you for stepping up, Demnan. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
66. We are running outta time my friend.....either do it or we go down in flames |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. If he has good ideas but can't get his colleagues to follow.. Who's fault is that? |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. It could be a testament to his leadership qualities. n/t |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Actually, he can get legislation passed: |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. You should be blaming or shouldn't be blaming? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. He has to take part of that responsibility |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
67. It's hard to turn a corporate whore politician into one who actually stands up |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
72. Don't buy into Cali's frame. Dennis works very well with people. He organized the |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. He doesn't have the consensus building skills of say, the late Senators |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. exactly, or even bernie sanders who |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. Could you please supply a list of bills or amendments that Sanders |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. UH...no Dem did much of ANYTHING while the Repos controlled the HOUSE. |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
65. The problem is that |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Uh, of COURSE quid pro quo is the rule. |
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greendog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Wouldn't you kind of EXPECT it to be hard for Dennis to build coalitions... |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Wellstone built coalitions with pro-corporate Senators all the time. |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. I wish you would realize this isn't really about Dennis Kucinich |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. I wish you would see how my point is related... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. Wellstone also entered the Senate when the Dems controlled the Senate, |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. So? Dems control the House now, and throughout much of Wellstone's career... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. bernie did it in the House |
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greendog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Then maybe we should vote for Bernie. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. That is a flat out misrepresentation. of the facts. Sanders got more amendments voted |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. . YOU have it all wrong. From the article: |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
73. You are the one doing the misinformation. Kucinich got more bills out of committee, |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
74. How has he got to persuade when a majority agree with him |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. Huckabee, Keyes, Hunter, Trancedo |
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TroubleMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. I voted him for him last time, and will again this year. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. that happens on the right too. n/t |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. I disagree with you main point.. |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. If you had read my post in a perceptive manner |
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Riktor (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
68. I think you'll find his assessment correct |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
11. I agreed with Nader in 2000 |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. You, like the others |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Are you of the belief, then, that making a moral point is more important |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. You don't understand politics, obviously |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
50. And if, in pressing for that commitment, you fuck up |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Kucinich will not win the nomination |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. If you know he won't win, and I know he won't win |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. And to further the freakin' Irony.. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
22. I Disagree |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
23. Here's the thing... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. They Figure Out A Strategy To Get A Pluarility Or Majority Of The Voters By Any Means Necessary |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Thanks |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. If Pugs Are Motivated |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. In 1994 they had a winning plan |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I'm Pretty Jaded When It Comes To Politicians |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I wish you had been with me in 2006 |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I Like And Admire Jim Webb |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. You know, George Allen was his own worst enemy there |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. I agree -- I think that's why they're liking Giuliani. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. The Pugs Voted Their Heart In 64, 80and 84 |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
48. Hence one of the reasons Dennis doesn't appeal to me in the primaries |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
36. Dems act as if they've been brainwashed by an abusive spouse... |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Thanks |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
39. Frankly, Nader was better than Gore on the issues (in my view) but I was 100% Gore because sometimes |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I'm sorry, but you didn't understand my post |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Our last nominee, John Kerry, was from the liberal wing of the party. Edwards' agenda is liberal by |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. John Kerry forced out Howard Dean |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Kerry was more liberal than pro-gun, pro-death penalty, pro-NAFTA Dean. I love Dean who brought new |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. See Post 56 |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Yes |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
47. I don't think Kucinich has what it takes to mount a serious bid |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. I'm going into the neighborhood where your (icon) guy was born |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. I'm the person you don't understand, per your post. |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Let's make ourselves less invisible |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
59. There is more to being a President than being right on the issues. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
60. By your rational, conservatives do the exact same thing liberals do. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
62. The only way we have to influence the platform is our primary vote. |
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