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illinoisprogressive
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:01 AM Original message |
Is Hillary Going to Be Kerry 2.0 |
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Double T
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yes. |
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MethuenProgressive
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Mon Nov-05-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. An anti-Clinton post with an Obama logo. Gee, what a surprise!! |
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Mon Nov-05-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. AbSOlutely. She is being set up for failure--a strawman candidate if I ever saw one. |
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Carrieyazel
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. She will be, I agree. She can't connect with people. |
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mystwoman
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
26. She connects with Dems |
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XemaSab
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. People did not have a preconceived idea about Kerry |
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JDPriestly
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
65. Actually, she connects better than Kerry, but not as well |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. If Edwards connects better than Kerry, why did Kerry |
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JDPriestly
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Mon Nov-05-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Because Edwards was an unknown and because Kerry is |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I've watched Edwards' videos |
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Richard Steele
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. No- they had to STEAL the election to beat Kerry. |
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CyberPieHole
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. And you got the Clinton information from your "crystal ball"...hahaha |
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Richard Steele
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. My, what a fact-based and well-reasoned rebuttal. Now I'm just all devastated and stuff... |
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CyberPieHole
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. More fact based than your OP... |
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Richard Steele
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Mon Nov-05-07 03:02 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Pfft. Why don't you just say "I know you are, but what am I?" and be done with it? |
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CyberPieHole
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Mon Nov-05-07 04:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Because I posited YOU'D say it...and you lived up to my expectation... |
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Tesha
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. You can feel it, can't you? |
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mth44sc
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. I was a Kerry supporter |
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oasis
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. Hillary's candidacy "a swiftboat in the making". Nobody swiftboats Hill better than DUers.(eom) |
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derby378
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
5. Will Hillary ignore Texas the way John Kerry did? |
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mystwoman
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. return on value |
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DFW
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Mon Nov-05-07 06:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
39. I don't think so |
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Clark2008
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Mon Nov-05-07 06:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
40. Kerry ignored the entire South and Great Plains states... |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
56. Hillary will pursue Texas's electoral votes when the Republican's |
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JDPriestly
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Romney is a Massachusetts favorite son. |
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mystwoman
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Teddy K |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Romney will not get Massachsetts if he is the nominee |
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JDPriestly
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Mon Nov-05-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Good. I'm relieved to hear that. |
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Mojorabbit
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
6. This isn't going |
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MADem
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. It'll help 'the party' all right--the Republican Party. |
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More Than A Feeling
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
7. John Edwards' theme is economic populism, Obama's is post-partisanship |
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Mass
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
8. Thanks for promoting this idiot. I guess that criticizing Hillary is all that matters. |
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Mojorabbit
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. This doesn't really |
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KittyWampus
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
49. The movie shows NO SUCH THING. You haven't seen the movie and just read what the director wrote |
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Mojorabbit
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Mon Nov-05-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. No, I only |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
57. Explain how the Kerry team ran a great primary campaign |
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mark414
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. Clinton is our only potential candidate that will totally energize a demoralized right wing |
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Richard Steele
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Exactly. A Hillary candidacy is their only hope. |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
59. I think we can lose if we think it will be a cake walk |
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mrreowwr_kittty
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
12. The Bubble is how I describe the environment that Clinton supporters operate in |
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JDPriestly
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Mon Nov-05-07 03:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
34. You are so right. I really wish Hillary would drop her candidacy. |
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snot
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. I admire H.C.; but |
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elfin
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
15. Oh Yes - She will not come close to Kerry's numbers -- her "fans" |
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MonkeyFunk
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. so who's fans will? |
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JDPriestly
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Mon Nov-05-07 03:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
35. I'm with you. I just do not like her as a presidential candidate. |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
61. Kerry is all of those things more than anyone else I can see - and |
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JDPriestly
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Kerry was not assertive enough. |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I'll believe it when I see it, I wish I saw more of that in 2004 |
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johncoby2
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
17. You mean Kerry/Edwards? |
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MonkeyFunk
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
18. No |
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mystwoman
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Hillary's got teeth |
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MonkeyFunk
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I dislike your characterizations of her opponents |
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mystwoman
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. It's not her standing I questioned |
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MonkeyFunk
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Your characterization of her opponents |
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mystwoman
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. u already said that |
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JDPriestly
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Mon Nov-05-07 03:24 AM Response to Reply #19 |
37. It isn't enough to have "teeth." You need to be persuasive and believable. |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
62. We have yet to see HRC really fight anyone other than other Democrats. |
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politicasista
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Mon Nov-05-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
83. Kerry fought for her when she was attacked. |
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Major Hogwash
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
21. Pakistani police are beating protestors in Pakistan - as we speak! |
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MonkeyFunk
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Mon Nov-05-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. And what |
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rufus dog
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
32. NO - HRC will not be the nominee! n/t |
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sandnsea
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Mon Nov-05-07 03:23 AM Response to Original message |
36. Connecting Hillary to Kerry??? |
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Perry Logan
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Mon Nov-05-07 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
41. Big difference: Hillary won't roll over like Kerry did. |
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politicasista
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Mon Nov-05-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
79. Yes, let's just tear down good dems by promoting Hillary n/t |
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Inuca
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Mon Nov-05-07 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
42. Another big difference: Kerry has a strong moral compass, Hillary... |
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OKNancy
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Mon Nov-05-07 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
43. There are so many things wrong with this OPINION so |
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TheFarseer
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Mon Nov-05-07 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
45. is your point that: |
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Stop Cornyn
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
47. IF she wins the nomination, she'll be Kerry 2.0, but I think Obama or Edwards will beat her. |
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ProSense
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
48. I've met Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, and |
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BlueIris
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Mon Nov-05-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. :-) |
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BlueIris
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Mon Nov-05-07 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
51. Must. Not. Post. Thoughts. |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
53. Nearly all your assumptions are wrong |
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Inuca
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Thank you Karyn for the wonderful and cogent post |
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
54. To Paraphase Tolstoy |
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rockymountaindem
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
55. Who the hell was "supremely confident" in 2004? |
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sampsonblk
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Tue Nov-06-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #55 |
89. The 2004 election was ours to lose, definitely |
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rockymountaindem
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Tue Nov-06-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Yes it was that complicated |
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NMMNG
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
58. Nah. She's got bigger balls than he did. |
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Mon Nov-05-07 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
63. More right wing drivel from an Obama supporter |
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ShortnFiery
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Mon Nov-05-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
72. You got that right! But will the party learn from running DLCers for President ... |
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beachmom
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Mon Nov-05-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
76. Yuck. Gee, when will Obama admit to borrowing his ideas on Iraq and healthcare from Kerry? |
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Major Hogwash
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Mon Nov-05-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Did Kerry copyright all of his ideas - or he is the only liberal you've ever heard of? |
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karynnj
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Kerry was never for the invasion - ever |
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Major Hogwash
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Tue Nov-06-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. "Intentionally conflated by the media"? That's horse hockey! |
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karynnj
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Tue Nov-06-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I didn't say that that Press Conference conflated things |
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politicasista
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Mon Nov-05-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
78. You are not helping Obama by continuingly tearing down other Dems |
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wisteria
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
80. This is nonsense from a man who is trying desperately to make money off of a very bad film he made |
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BenDavid
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Tue Nov-06-07 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
84. No dem can ever win with bob strum associated |
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Major Hogwash
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Tue Nov-06-07 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
86. Is Hillary for gay marriages? |
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sampsonblk
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Tue Nov-06-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
88. No, the Clinton's will run a professional campaign instead.-nt |
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Tue Nov-06-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
90. Only if we are short sighted enough to nominate her. |
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