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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:37 PM Original message |
Senator Obama and the Culture Wars |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. "The Republicans must be defeated, not accomodated." |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good comments but |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Coming from you, I'll accept that (Title changed) |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. If Obama represented a THREAT to the GOP |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. And he says you have to beat them |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Exactly. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. primaries |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I know the tone was this bad last time around, but was the content this lacking, too? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. What are the extremes on abortion? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Thank Clinton for that |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. What? Please explain. I read your post three times and still don't understand it. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Pushed to the right on abortion |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I'm terribly confused. What would the left-wing "extreme" on abortion look like? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Calling fetuses parasites |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Oh. Do people do that? They must be insane. Seriously. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Yes you're shocked |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. ??? You didn't answer my question. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Yeah, that doesn't sound |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Now where have I seen the left slandered as crazies before.... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Precisely, there are crazies on the left too |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. That is total, complete, and utter bs |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. She's fond of total, complete and utter bs |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Based on constitutionality |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:55 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. The health thing was a fig leaf |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. I don;t know if Obama is Neville Chamberlain yet |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. The abortion compromises in the 90's |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. which compromises? |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Um, yeah |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. partial birth, waiting periods, funding |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Huh? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. With a bunch of mealy-mouthed |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. what? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Not because it was complete nonsense |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Your're country |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. What's that got to do with Bill? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Nothing at all |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. you must have been dreaming |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. Well, I don't really believe any campaign rhetoric but... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
12. Political grandstanding + My Way Or The Highway = Getting Nothing Done |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. That is the reality of living in a democracy, all right. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. Thank you, K_and_H |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. republicans are wicked |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Yeah. I think so. At this point, I can't think of a single reason to be a Republican |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
52. Read their platform |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. Exactly... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Yes. I hear all this about "transformative change" and I see pandering to the right. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
28. What Obama is pointing out is that it is not a novel idea but, that |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
31. Hillary Clinton is locked in the past in very conventional ways of thinking. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I agree with both those statements. Now, how does Obama promise this change? |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. . |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That thread is all about Hillary's flaws. I know that already. What about Obama? |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. If you think it's all about Hllary's flaws you haven't read it. nt |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
45. Bush ran on the exact same notion that Obama's pushing |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
53. UPDATE: Tom Hayden says it so much better than I can. Please read. |
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Bongo Prophet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
54. If this essay was not connected to a candidate, but just on principle |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Yes. |
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