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ClarkUSA
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:27 PM Original message |
The Real Story Behind That Las Vegas Debate Crowd By Someone Who Was There |
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itsrobert
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Finally. Good old fashion honest analysis from somebody that was there |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. I was there and that post bears no resemblance to reality. |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. So your reality trumps her reality? |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. When she calls Dina titus a loser in the same breathe as |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Titus did lose an election against a sexual assaulter/illegal immigrant employer |
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Egnever
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Sure she did |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 06:40 AM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Loser is a fitting term, then. |
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MsMagnificent
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
113. Funny exchange: |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #113 |
126. Definitely worth a DUzy. |
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
98. I figured that, another Hillary basher! nt |
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ooglymoogly
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
109. You seem to forget or are unaware that all of us in the hinter |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
128. Thank you for corroborating the OP source's story. |
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Reno.Muse
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Tue Nov-20-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #59 |
146. Rory Reid was right in the middle of the front row, facing Hillary |
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ClarkUSA
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Sun Nov-18-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
129. Oh, and the girl with the planted CNN question is a former Reid staffer, one of many, I'm sure. |
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Auggie
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. Exacty why applause or audience reaction should not be allowed in debates |
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hedgehog
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Agreed. nt |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. It wasnt allowed it was encouraged |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Sat Nov-17-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
122. In other debates I could guess reactions from the applause or cheers. |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. I was right. nt |
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BootinUp
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. if this comforts folks I guess it serves someones purpose. |
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incapsulated
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I prefer good old fashioned |
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rinsd
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. Here's a post by a DUer who was there. That Kos poster is a die hard Obama supporter |
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Cameron27
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You beat me to it. |
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BootinUp
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I beat both of you. :-) |
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Cameron27
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. You did! |
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saracat
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
42. Any DUer who says what you want to hear is truthful.Others , who do not are deemed untruthful. |
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rinsd
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. The DUer in question seemed even handed and candid |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. That poster is only talking about one person. The OP is referring to the big picture. nt |
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BootinUp
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. There is more in the thread. nt |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Indeed there is! |
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rinsd
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. And sandnsea was wrong (shocking but it happens often) |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No, but that's what they SHOULD have done. |
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rinsd
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Sure. I have no problem with the audience being told to remain quiet. |
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BootinUp
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Try this |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. It is not suprising that's what a pro-Hillary crowd would want. |
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BootinUp
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. It is not surprising they spotted hypocrisy either. nt |
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BootinUp
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:07 PM Original message |
I guess its too much for people to demand |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. Issues were being discussed, but the crowd showed a clear bias. |
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rinsd
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. The Kos poster referred to in the OP is a diehard Obama supporter. |
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Adelante
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. LOL |
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BootinUp
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
50. rofl |
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Cameron27
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
78. ! |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 04:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
93. "Diehard", rinsd? You are assuming that because that makes her claim easy to disparage.. |
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MethuenProgressive
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I'll believe our fellow DUer before any kos blog. |
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HughMoran
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
106. Oh, no! Reality bites! Oh, well - let the "I'm being persecuted" folks let off steam |
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graywarrior
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's funny how intelligent people were able to pick up on that. |
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BootinUp
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. spontaneous is what it sounded like to me. n/t |
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MethuenProgressive
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
12. The blogger accuses Clinton supporters of being racists ?!?!? |
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msongs
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. my grandma used to call me uppity quite often cuz I didnt buy into her religion of choice nt |
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goodgd_yall
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. Thank you for the inside view n/t |
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msongs
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
16. depends on whether you believe the biased "reporter" - and the comment |
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calteacherguy
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Agreed! nt |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. I doubt most DUers would be rude enough to boo anyone at a Democratic debate |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Sat Nov-17-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
123. Posting in a public forum after the fact is NOT the same as |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #123 |
127. Exactly. Thank you. |
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durrrty libby
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. Nice try...but a lie |
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Forkboy
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. We can all go home now folks...durrrty has spoken. |
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Cha
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
22. So how were these |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
96. This is how. |
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Cha
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Sat Nov-17-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
114. Those freakin' |
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illinoisprogressive
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
24. I read that this morning. I think this will come back to bite Hillary in the behind. |
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durrrty libby
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. When something has no teeth, it can not bite. But keep dreaming |
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aquart
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Because you believe this "impartial" report without a single doubt or question? |
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aquart
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
29. Hillary supporters are NOT Democrats? |
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CnAnPB
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. You beat me to it n/t |
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CnAnPB
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. "These folks are not Democrats, they're Hillary supporters." |
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Cameron27
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Yeah, that kind hinted where the poster was coming from lol |
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creeksneakers2
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
36. The word of one guy on the Internet doesn't make much of a case |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Sun Nov-18-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
131. That's talking about 100 out of 2000 - a sub-set of the total audience. |
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EV_Ares
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Fri Nov-16-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
37. Thanks for posting on this from someone who saw it with their own |
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Beaverhausen
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. We all heard it with our own ears. All a candidate had to do was start to... |
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EV_Ares
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Fri Nov-16-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. The way she is running this campaign is getting hard to take and I am |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. oops mispost |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. A number of media folks/journalists suspect there was a fix in, too. |
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Texas_Kat
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #48 |
74. INteresting that Chuck Todd is the Political director of MSNBC |
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Cameron27
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. I think it was part network rivalry |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:23 AM Response to Reply #74 |
85. Not really. |
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Forkboy
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
40. I didn't watch, but from what I've read everyone lost and everyone won. |
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Sat Nov-17-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
117. It's all true. n/t |
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FreeStateDemocrat
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Fri Nov-16-07 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
45. She can buy and rig the Dem coronation but she gets blown out in the general. |
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EV_Ares
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Fri Nov-16-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Who knows, she could bring down the democratic party like Bush is |
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Mon Nov-19-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
141. i pray you're wrong, but if the party ends up being made in her image, |
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Fri Nov-16-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
51. Hillary will win them all not just Nevada. |
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Fri Nov-16-07 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
54. Another good reason NOT to support the Hillary crowd. |
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Fri Nov-16-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
55. had a feeling it was fixed |
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Fri Nov-16-07 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
56. Look at the Nevada polls. Hillary leads by a ton. No surprise she has more Dems |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. First time I ever saw "supporters" loudly boo other Democrats during a debate |
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. More than likely payback from the previous debate. The "boys" had it coming. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Sat Nov-17-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
124. Because they booed her in that debate? |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. which atacks would those be? |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. The same attacks that everyone in the media and elsewhere saw. |
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Egnever
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:10 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. post one |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:47 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. WTH should I? |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Sat Nov-17-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
125. She doesn't defend the system? |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
58. Complete horse shit post |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Says you. I and many others here, there, and in the media disagree with you. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. your eyes werent there |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. The Kos diarist was there. And my eyes could see just fine, thanks. |
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Egnever
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I was there |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Yes, so was she and members of the media who were there had the same fishy impression. |
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Egnever
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:34 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. What did hillary say that was atacking other candidates? |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:38 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Oh please. |
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Cameron27
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. I can't believe that you actually think that you |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:57 AM Response to Reply #81 |
88. I don't know Egnever and I'm supposed to believe him over someone else who was there, too? |
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Egnever
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
84. post the freaking attacks if they are all over the place |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 03:12 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. Repeat: Google it. You seem obsessed with cataloging attacks. I'm not. |
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Texas_Kat
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Which media members were there? |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 03:17 AM Response to Reply #80 |
91. What's your point? |
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Catherine Vincent
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Fri Nov-16-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Remember what I posted in your thread? |
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HughMoran
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
107. Agreed |
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TheWebHead
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
82. you gotta call the liberal radio shows on monday |
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Bo Bike
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
86. Quit you wining! |
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Major Hogwash
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Sat Nov-17-07 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
89. Nevada is as crooked as the Mississippi river is long. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 04:11 AM Response to Original message |
92. More On That Nevada Debate Crowd |
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Perry Logan
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Sat Nov-17-07 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
95. The other candidates sure played into their hands, didn't they? |
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tom_paine
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #95 |
111. Well, Perry, Bush-style Gestalt-based propaganda ALWAYS takes it's victims |
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
97. Hold on a damn minute here... |
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Cameron27
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. It's a biased hit piece IMO |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Thanks for the unbiased viewpoint. |
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. Hear hear! |
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DCKit
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
100. I'm not going to read the replies. Just here to relieve my conscience... |
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Cameron27
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Sat Nov-17-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I absolutely agree with you about that. |
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
104. Totally obvious that this was Politics at its worst, Audience was sooooo stacked |
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HughMoran
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
105. Lol - doesn't make Edwards answers any more convincing |
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Sat Nov-17-07 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
108. Despicable and this makes me want to support her even less. n/t |
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
110. Rec because it was obvious that what Clark was saying |
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Gman
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Sat Nov-17-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
112. Fuck you NV Pol Girl |
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balantz
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Sat Nov-17-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
115. Bad move in my book. |
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Sat Nov-17-07 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
116. I was at the... |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Nov-17-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Thank You for the corroborating account of what happened at the LV rally/JJ dinner! |
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Sat Nov-17-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. If you're going to claim there is"evidence" |
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New Era
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Sun Nov-18-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. Evidence was a bad choice of a word |
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TAZller
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Sat Nov-17-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. Evidence that HRC hired temp workers to rally? |
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Reno.Muse
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Tue Nov-20-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #116 |
147. Rumor has it that Jack Carter (Jimmy's son) may run against Harry Reid |
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Sat Nov-17-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
118. As someone without a personal beef in this, I was glad DK's answers drew applause |
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Sun Nov-18-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #118 |
132. Based upon the posts on this thread, it seems obvious that... |
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ClarkUSA
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Sun Nov-18-07 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
133. Update: All six of CNN's "undecided voters" were Democratic operatives |
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TAZller
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Sun Nov-18-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. So what... |
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ClarkUSA
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Mon Nov-19-07 02:40 AM Response to Reply #134 |
135. Yes, I expect a lack of bias at a DNC-sponsored debate. |
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Mon Nov-19-07 03:48 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Not what I said... |
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Mon Nov-19-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. I don't subscribe to The Politics of Cynicism. That's why I support Obama. |
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Mon Nov-19-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Then I am even more confused.... |
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Mon Nov-19-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. You got me. |
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Mon Nov-19-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. Your point of post #133 is_______? |
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Mon Nov-19-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. We would be terrible ballroom dance partners. |
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Tue Nov-20-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #144 |
145. only because you keep testing your dancing shoes... |
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Tue Nov-20-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #145 |
148. No, it's because you keep tripping over your own feet. |
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Mon Nov-19-07 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
137. Thanks for posting this: it is tremendously important for voters who won't get |
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Tue Nov-20-07 03:50 AM Response to Reply #137 |
149. "No More Clintons! No More Bushes! No more taking it in our tushes!" |
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Mon Nov-19-07 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
142. Yet I heard John King, George Stephanopoulos, and others, say the audience was evenly divided |
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Tue Nov-20-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #142 |
150. lol! Woof's protegé and fmr. Clinton chief of staff are so-o-o credible. |
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