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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:42 AM Original message |
Memo to Clinton: They went after Kerry for 30 years |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm sure she's just sitting by the phone waiting for this piece of advice from you. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I wasn't offering advice. |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. ... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. No they didn't |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You forgot they reported she had affairs with |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I thought the lesbian thing was old -wasn't that being talked about when |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. I made a RWer confused ... he said that she was a lesbian |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Sheffield Nelson is the one you're thinking about. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. So Tell Me Why You Think They Won't Sink EVEN Deeper With |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. But...but...they WANT to run against her, right? |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I believe they do, yes. nt |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. I don't. :) |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. self delete. n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Gee - you forgot when Kerry was ostracized by all of DC for uncovering IranContra and BCCI |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. "ostracized by all of DC" < "target of national media for 15 years" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. The difference is between what is REAL and what is dog and pony show. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Both of them were attacked unscupulously |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Don't forget how they tried to plant COCAINE in Kerry's office to turn the tables |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #60 |
69. No one remembers that. Everyone remembers the blue dress |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. Yep - we need MORE self-centered politicians in high office, not ones working to protect |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. There is a far bigger difference |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Right, and Hillary really is a lesbian, and she really did kill Vince Foster |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Look at your post that I responded to - it mentions a "blue dress" |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Look at all the posts. Look at the OP |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Incoherent as well as hysterical |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Not by the mainstream media - the stories against Kerry were mainstreamed |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Absurd |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I defended them from those attacks and YOUR Clinton devotion absurdly prevents |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. My point still stands |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Except part of the SILLY attacks on Hillary were HELPFUL to Clintons. It conditioned Dems |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. My point still stands |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Because your attention span in politics started WHEN? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
82. and she had a far more public platform to respond from |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
51. You are forgetting that he was attacked for fighting against the Contras |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
70. No, I'm not |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Actually they have done more against Kerry |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
89. You mean she didn't fight back effectively and her rep is STILL tarnished after all this time? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
6. No, they pretty much left him alone until he ran for president. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. But Obama has something the Clinton's have never had, because they've always been afraid. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Oh, please. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I appreciate the work Clinton has done on Children's issues. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. City Slickers? LOL! |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
38. You're wrong, and I have evidence: |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Delete. dupe. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
41. BULL - that completely FORGETS the attacks on Kerry for uncovering IranContra |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
54. So you had bricks thrown through your window |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Would Bill Clinton have preferred Kerry DIDN'T spend 4yrs exposing Bush1's crimes |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. Kerry wasn't a fighter. Hillary is.(eom) |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Right - IranContra, BCCI, illegal wars in Central America and CIA drugrunning were |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. What's Bill Clinton's non-pursuit of BCCI illegalities got to do with Hillary? I'm |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. Right - election fraud that took away 5million Kerry votes had nothing to do with it. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Did you expect Hillary to perform a Lady Godiva stunt to rebut the "trashed WH" story? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. That was post WH - and the strange trashing the WH and stealing |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Did you expect Kerry to speak in front of Firefighters Convention and challenge Bush on swifts |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
55. Sure, I was impressed when she and Kennedy led the fight against Alito |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. My reply to the OP was in its proper context. Hillary won't sit queitly by and |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. The problem is that the presidential candidate has to be presidential |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. To insist on displaying impeccable decorum at all times can be a hinderance |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Can you give me some examples of HRC's pit bull scrapperiness? |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. First termer Clinton stood on the senate floor and asked the question "Bush knew what?" |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. So - no follow up? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
90. And so she wimped out? Kerry had NO backup on BCCI and kept at it for 6 yrs. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #57 |
71. Really? They HAD their way with her and Dems ended up in the minority and |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. My point. Hillary will defend her person, her territory and her right to be president. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Really? And she didn't think to use that 'talent' to oppose Bush from 2001-2006? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. All true BLM |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
9. One of the reasons HRC will win against the right wing |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. And, God knows, they have tried. |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. They're not going after the past innuendos. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. Cattle futures ... Rose Law Firm records ... no, nothing there |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. Drudge has something up now. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Wow, Drudge as a DU source. Like Politico. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Yeah I know I'm supposed to hate Drudge |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
49. UK is standard CIA/KGB propaganda method. |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
13. You've hit it right on. It's always about her. She's the only one who knows anything. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
16. They all but ignored Kerry until 2004. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
43. Yeah - it was Clintons who were targeted for uncovering IranContra and BCCI |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. That shows you have amnesia. Don't you remember "Live Shot" |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
21. A few weeks ago all your posts were praising her and now |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. yeah, that is kinda odd... if I may take a page from the conspiracy playbook here |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. loI ..I think the puzzle is more organic than that. Who knows |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. lol nt |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
26. Yea, but Kerry wimped out, and Hillary won't. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. You mean she will stop wimping out? She wimps out all the time--another word for triangulation |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Hillary lives for wimping out!!! Sadly, she and some of her supporters think that attacking |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. Kerry stayed on BCCI for 6 years. How long did Hillary last before she caved on healthcare |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
81. Kerry didn't "wimp" out |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
27. It is a curious bit of "logic" that says Clinton is better because she is most attacked |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. It is a bit of pretzel logic |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. That's because Hillary doesn't have a vision. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. The sad thing is Hillary as a nominee is the most likely to result in a Rep court |
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phillyliberal (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. clinton |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Universal Health Care,a rational and reasonable foriegn policy |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. so..specifically...how does Clinton plan to make a more progressive tax system? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
83. *yawn* more moving the goal posts |
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