In light of what happened, the Clinton camp should pull that tv ad.

[bunnies]

I cant help but wonder how much it had to do with the hostage incident. You all know the ad. Its the one where she gets free health care for that boy. The first time I saw it I thought 'well, she'll be getting a ton of requests like that now'. And I read today that Eisenburg wanted Hillarys help getting psychiatric care... that he'd tried on his own and was denied treatment. I really doubt its a coincidence.

Obviously Im not blaming the people who created the ad for the incident. Im sure nobody anticipated anything like what happened. But it isnt hard to see how someone who is mentally unbalanced could be inspired to do something drastic by that ad. And I think just based on the possible connection between the two, the responsible thing to do is pull that commercial.

edit: clarity

[Clintonista2]

1. "Obviously Im not blaming the ad for the incident." Then why should she remove it?

[Bitwit1234]

Because it is Hillary and you know people who pick anything

to bash Hillary.

[bunnies]

8. Im so sick of this type of thing.

I am NOT in any way bashing Hillary. I guess you see no connection between the ad and what happened. Or were you just too busy attacking me to think about it.

[Clintonista2]

10. I don't see a connection. Proof that there was one?

Thanks in advance.

[bunnies]

21. I never said I had proof Lirwin.

And if you honestly cant see a possible connection... I really dont know what to say. It seems pretty clear to me. I guess its all just coincidence... right?

[Clintonista2]

22. You came to a conclusion (The AD was responsible) without any proof? How surprising

...not.

[bunnies]

25. I said it was POSSIBLE.

pos·si·ble
adj.
1. Capable of happening, existing, or being true without contradicting proven facts, laws, or circumstances.

Please stop putting words in my mouth.

[cuke]

31. It's POSSIBLE that an Edwards or Obama (etc) ad does the same thing

Hey, it's POSSIBLE right?

But you don't mention THOSE possibilities.

[bunnies]

33. huh?

Edwards and Obama dont have ads even similar to this. Not that Ive seen anyway. Theyve shown me nothing that would make me think I could call on them for any sort of personal favor.

[cuke]

36. You're forgetting something. We are talking about the mentally ill

They don't need a rational reason for taking hostages

[bunnies]

3. Because of the possibility that it might inspire another

such incident.

[Clintonista2]

5. But you already said that the ad wasn't responsible. So what do you mean by "inspire ANOTHER"

incident?

[bunnies]

14. I clarified my post. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Don't You Think You Should First Establish Mr. Eisenberg Saw The Ad

Just sayin...

[bunnies]

11. They play the thing 45 trillion times a day here.

If he's watched tv in the last month... I have no doubt hes seen it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I Appreciate Your Concern

But if candidates and the media in general had to edit everything because it might provoke crazies the level of discourse would be reduced to the level of five year olds...

[bunnies]

19. True.

You make an excellent point. I guess I hadnt really considered that. And thanks for taking the time to respond with thoughtful insight. I appreciate it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. That's The Argument Some Make Against Pornography

There should be censorship because without censorship some non-adults would have access to pornography...That reduces everybody to a child...

[progressivebydesign]

2. I disagree. I think her ad is valuable and the situation underscores it. n/t

[Cameron27]

4. It's a terrific ad,

and she shouldn't think of pulling it because of the hostage crisis.

[durrrty libby]

7. No It would be stupid to pull it

[Clintonista2]

9. more stupid than this OP?

[durrrty libby]

20. lol...

[cali]

12. silly

suggestion, wabbit.

[Life Long Dem]

13. Because she has this mistrust of her. The polls tell this of her honesty.

The planting or plants to questions, the waffling around for real answers, the laughing off to an answer of the questions. I know I'm missing some things, but all this gives rise to suspicion of her.

[Cameron27]

16. What does this have to do with the hostage crisis

and pulling the ad?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Nothing

He just wanted to take this opportunity to piss on Hillary Clinton...

[cuke]

32. Hillary doesn't trust herself?

Every day I find a post that says "You will never see a dumber comment on DU". The next day I learn the post left out the last part "until tomorrow"

[wyldwolf]

17. LOL! All the more reason to keep the ad running. A real world example of the need for health care.

[MGKrebs]

23. No ads with children as it might provike sexual predators.

No ads about gun control (or guns at all) because it might provoke crazy militia activists.

No ads about the economy as it might provoke a crazy person to ask for money.

Where does it end?

[Bucky]

35. No ads with women not wearing burkhas. It leads to sinful urges

[ClarkUSA]

24. Thanks for the thoughtful and compassionate post, bunnies.

And yes, there's probably a causative connection between Eisenberg's misguided desire to get help via free mental health care from Hillary Clinton
and her campaign TV ad touting free health care for all. He'd been having financial problems, reports have said. I hope he gets the help he needs.

[Evergreen Emerald]

26. That is an outrageous statement and I cannot let it stand

That man's attack on Clinton's employees and volunteers has nothing more to do with Clinton's ad than it does your constant verbal violence towards Clinton. It is no more her fault than it is yours.

[bunnies]

28. Thank you so much for understanding the point of my post.

Seems most people either dont or just wont admit it.

[Evergreen Emerald]

30. I was actually referring to ClarkUSA's post

[bunnies]

34. So was I.

I responded to post #24.

[Evergreen Emerald]

37. I see

then you both are outrageous and down-right stunning in your attempts to malign Clinton at all costs--even the cost of your credibility.

[ClarkUSA]

38. I like your update, too. It seems you are a very perceptive woman as well as compassionate.

Seems some people won't admit the true point of your post, eh? But I'm sure if Obama had run a similar ad with a similar causative result, the same people
belittling you now would be championing you as a Brave Teller of Truth and The American Way. Your point is beyond politics... the poor man simply wanted
help and he thought Hillary Clinton could get him some free mental health treatment after taking to heart what her ad said. What a shame... but at least he's
getting the help he needs NOW. :thumbsup:

[bunnies]

39. sigh...

exactly.

Sometimes I feel as if I'm speaking a foreign language. I should know by now its hard to use the H-word and not be accused of bashing. Maybe if it wasnt her... people would interpret my OP more in the way that it was meant. Thanks for pickin up what Im puttin down. :hug:

[MGKrebs]

40. So you still think the ad should be pulled?

Are you saying that there is now a demonstrated risk and that another person is likely to react similarly to this ad? Can you identify anything in the ad that is different from other ads that don't cause this effect in people?
How do you tell- BEFORE an incident- what kind of thing will trigger a deranged person from snapping? What criteria do you use to decide what ads are OK and which are not? I mean, it's like saying that we shouldn't have banks because people who ride by them will be tempted to rob them. Isn't it?

[bunnies]

42. Yes.

Im saying the ad should be pulled due to its association with this incident. And Im certain that I never said I thought the ad caused this person to snap. All I said was that in light of what happened, the clinton camp should pull the ad. Then everyone assumes that Im blaming Hillary personally for what happened. As Ive said... if her campaign wants to take the chance of reminding NH voters of this incident every time it plays then its well within their right to do so. I simply think it would be better if the ad wasnt played anymore. Thats all.

[ClarkUSA]

41. Anytime, bunnies.

Thank YOU for making the rare empathic stand for good sense at DU GDP. I hope Eisenberg is treated by mental health professionals
with half the compassionate sensitivity you've shown here. :hug:

[FreeState]

29. How about we just fix the healthcare crisis instead? n/t