!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OFFICIAL DEMOCRATIC DEBATE THREAD (8) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[THUNDER HANDS]

TERRORISM!!!!

[Zynx]

1. AAAAAHHHHH!!!! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!

[Maat]

2. Here we go ... (n/t) ..

[yourout]

3. Silence!....I kill you!.....as Achmed the dead terrorist would say.

[ellisonz]

4. YES! YES! YES!

Obama playing the IWR card.

[K Gardner]

5. Why does she ALWAYS have to say: "BUT"... she is shameless.

[Muttocracy]

there's also well..... n/t

[THUNDER HANDS]

6. Question 31 - to Hillary - terrorists would test Obama before testing you?

[Drunken Irishman]

7. Obama hit a humerun with that terrorism answer!

All this money we're spending in Iraq is taking away from protecting us at home.

So much for Bush's fighting them over there crap.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

17. I have to admit, that was a good answer. nt

[frogcycle]

41. thank biden for it

[Joe the Revelator]

8. Obama just ate Hillary's lunch with this politics of fear answer

Awesome.

[K Gardner]

14. He did. And she's stepping right back into it again, unbelievable.

[gdaerin]

33. Yep, she's just as obstinate as Bush

[jenmito]

YEAH! Obama just called out Hillary on playing the fear card AND voting for Iraq!

[Muttocracy]

23. and referenced the 9/11 commission report w/out missing a beat n/t

[jenmito]

39. Yup. HE IS ON FIRE!

[calteacherguy]

9. Obama explains what he will do...Hillary just keeps playing the fear card.

Tell me how you are more "prepared" Hillary! Tell me if you can!

[Konza]

15. My lord she is collapsing on this question

[AntiFascist]

10. you forgot the 11111s n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

11. EXCELLENT answer by Obama about 9/11- Terra-

[Avalux]

12. terra! terra!

I am the only one who can protect America! :scared:

[Yael]

13. "root them out wherever they are" -- HRC channeling Bush now. Yawn.

[Yael]

19. Who is she to say that "Bush uses fear policies"? Please

[Thrill]

16. Hillary is scaring me!!!!!

[gdaerin]

18. How is it that she's Still invoking fear, talk about not listening

isn't that one of the worst things about Bush?

[K Gardner]

26. Because she really.. does. not. listen. Its all about HER.

[jenmito]

She has a tin ear.

[Yael]

47. She is tone deaf on more than a few issues.

[caraher]

20. Huh. Channeling Rudy is not a good move by Hillary n/t

[rodeodance]

21. Topic subject They are ALL doing an outstanding job

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject They are ALL doing an outstanding job
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4079500#4079500
4079500, They are ALL doing an outstanding job
Posted by EffieBlack on Tue Jan-15-08 09:42 PM

I'd be delighted to have any of these three as my president.

I feel extraordinarily proud of this party.

[calteacherguy]

37. I thought so at the beginning of the debate, but not now.

Obama has done the best tonight.

[bullwinkle428]

22. Hillary overcompensating so as not to look "soft" on potential terror...

[THUNDER HANDS]

24. 32nd question - Edwards - phoning Mushareff?

[Muttocracy]

36. I miss my BIDEN!!!! Sorry had to get that out of my system n/t

[Barack_America]

25. "I don't believe what I just saw!"

Obama just hit that question OUT OF THE PARK!

[OzarkDem]

34. nah, he just gave a vague speech

acting and rhetoric don't always mean substance.

[Konza]

35. After that She should have just said "I pass"

[democrat2thecore]

43. I missed that! -nt

[Renew Deal]

27. Did Edwards lie about the Pakistan phone call?

[K Gardner]

32. ?? No..

[Renew Deal]

38. He just said he didn't talk to Musharraf

I thought so.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

65. He said he called the Pakistan Ambassador and requested to talk to Muhsharif (sp)

who then called him back.

[Inspired]

72. No, he did not say that. He said his call wasn't to Musharraf

directly...it was to the embassey. Musharraf called HIM back.

[Orangepeel]

88. No. He said that he called the ambassador and Musharraf called back

I think he mentioned that to point out that he went through channels rather than calling Musharraf's cell phone or something because Tim asked him if it was "appropriate" for him to call. He told the ambassador that he knew Musharref and wanted to speak to him and Musharref called him back.

[OzarkDem]

51. Love the way Edwards doesn't let them put words in his mouth

He straightened them out very well. He doesn't back down.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

52. huh??! where the heck did you get that?

:shrug:

[sandnsea]

28. Obama is the clear leader tonight

On every issue, across the board. No question.

[sunonmars]

40. Not how I'm seeing it but we have different opinions

[democrat2thecore]

57. I agree sandnsea - no question about it. -nt

[JackBeck]

29. What happened when they came back from commercial?

Crowd was all riled up. Another heckler?

[caraher]

94. Williams said they were in Los Angeles rather than Las Vegas

Everyone laughed at him

[JackBeck]

103. Thanks.

Stepped out the room for a minute.

[midnight]

30. Remember everyone that more Americans died in Katrina than

in a terrorist attack, but also remember that both times our Government officials ignored our safety.

[K Gardner]

49. Exactly. Good point.

[Yael]

84. Thank you for this

[rodeodance]

31. Topic subject Clinton is PITCH PERFECT on competence, confidence, and even vision. Blowing them in t

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Clinton is PITCH PERFECT on competence, confidence, and even vision. Blowing them in the weeds.
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4079049#4079049
4079049, Clinton is PITCH PERFECT on competence, confidence, and even vision. Blowing them in the weeds.
Posted by Proud2BAmurkin on Tue Jan-15-08 09:19 PM

It's not that the other ones are too bad, but Clinton is a machine.

She's not talking to the MSM she's speaking the language of voters.

Great debate.

[K Gardner]

42. OMG... that is hilarious ! Must be watching a different debate.

[Renew Deal]

46. lol, look at the source. It's Hillary's Baghdad Bob

[Yael]

91. LOL!!

[Connie_Corleone]

55. Whatever you all say.

:shrug:

[gdaerin]

60. What?! Are we watching the same debate?

I don't think we are,

are you watching some kind of censored version?

[City Lights]

64. "Clinton is a machine"

Can't disagree with ya there. :puke:

[Joe the Revelator]

67. Do you have any original thoughts?

or do you just posts other people's stuff?

[rodeodance]

92. I am not able to watch--so posted a few other related threads.

[ozone_man]

116. Obama and Clinton want more nuclear power and coal.

Edwards had them there. No new nuclear and no coal without full recapture of green house gases for Edwards.

[THUNDER HANDS]

44. 33rd question - when did you make decision to run for president?

[DUyellow]

50. Question from CA not NV

[THUNDER HANDS]

53. Hillary - New Years last year.

[THUNDER HANDS]

56. Edwards - December last year.

[THUNDER HANDS]

59. Obama - December of '06

[AntiFascist]

45. Edwards is HITTING THIS QUESTION OUT OF THE PARK...

about Pakistan. Just I thought I'd say hitting question out of park one more time.

[femmocrat]

62. I thought that was his best answer of the debate.

First time I heard him talk about that phone call.

[caraher]

48. What a rubbish final question!

And BW said it was "thoughtful?"

[jenmito]

54. Hillary said she decided to run for president just last January???!!!

[Muttocracy]

61. try... before she ran for senator... n/t

[Zynx]

75. We all know these guys all lied on that question.

They've all been planning for YEARS and YEARS.

[Yael]

96. 1975?

:P

[jenmito]

58. And Edwards just decided over a year ago? LIAR!

[K Gardner]

68. Haven't they ALL been running for four years now??

[ellisonz]

86. Barack Obama has been planning since kindergarten.

[democrat2thecore]

76. He basically lived in Iowa for four years!!!!!!!

And never led anyone to believe he wasn't going to run!
Disappointing.

[bullwinkle428]

79. And Obama didn't decide at the '04 Convention? If not earlier?

:rofl:

[Inspired]

85. Why don't you believe that his final decision was made then?

He has been mulling it over for awhile but how do you know when he made the final decision? Were you there?

[MadBadger]

63. Hillary: I made my decision to run for President 35 years ago from today.

[Connie_Corleone]

71. LOL!

[K Gardner]

74. ROFLMAO !

[Barack_America]

83. Some little girls have tea parties....I had cabinet meetings with my dolls. n/t

[Liberalboy]

66. Can anyone give me a brief update???

Up here in Canada, MSNBC is a pay channel (all American News Channels are) so I can't watch the debate....

[Viva_La_Revolution]

97. It's over...

I suggest reading through all the official threads, and ignoring all the fawning posts about who is winning.

[jenmito]

69. DAMN! OBAMA is TERRIFIC! The best EVER!

[sunonmars]

81. Dec 06, my backside

He hardly had a foot in the senate and he started.

[Phoonzang]

70. Obama has been the only one to get laughter and appaulse

Does this mean something? :)

[caraher]

77. Yup. He won this one handily. n/t

[anamnua]

73. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OFFICIAL DEMOCRATIC DEBATE THREAD (8) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So far Hillary is the winner by a mile.

[Superman Returns]

87. yawn

[rodeodance]

106. I think you are the first (in these official threads) to say that. I am not able to

watch--will have to catch it later.

[Colobo]

Obama wins.

[Rageneau]

78. I saw a good ball game. Obama supporters apparently saw a home run derby.

[caraher]

90. FYI, I was not an Obama man going in

I was leaning toward Kucinich or Edwards.

[gdaerin]

80. AHhhh, that was very satisfying, Obama shined

[peoli]

82. OBAMA IS LORD!

[gdaerin]

98. yes well, you've got to love him!

[Diane R]

89. Why did Clinton get so many of the questions? And got the most speaking time?

[gdaerin]

93. Why indeed, she doesn't answer them so you'd think they'd avoid that n/t

[Barack_America]

95. If she did, she didn't use it well. I only remember Obama...

Seriously, he dominated.

I would rank it:
1. Obama
2. Edwards
3. Clinton (she just seemed off)

[Konza]

100. Tweety say Hillary won, and don;t look now, here's Huma

[Barack_America]

104. Why? Because she spoke as loud as he usually does?

How could anyone think she won anything other than the volume award?

[gdaerin]

108. She did not win! he is so arrogant, n/t

[OzarkDem]

105. They were playing gotcha with her

and she was prepared for it.

[AntiFascist]

99. There goes Tweety, building up Hillary n/t

[gdaerin]

101. these pundits are retarded

[DUyellow]

112. agree, tim is full of shit

[DUyellow]

113. And, i dont see this "Power Play" being that big of a deal

[gdaerin]

114. Not at all n/t

[OzarkDem]

102. I liked Hillary's point about terrorism

she's absolutely right, not just about terrorism, but a lot of other foreign policy issues - whoever wins as President needs to be on the job and vigilant from day one.

That in a nutshell is Obama's biggest weakness - he's not ready for prime time yet. People will take advantage of his inexperience and that's a dangerous thing.

[caraher]

107. If that logic works in primary season...

imagine what the Republicans will serve up in the GE. It's far from obvious that any candidate in either party is somehow going to be less vulnerable to a terrorist act in the early days in office

[rodeodance]

109. but several posts said he got laughs tonight.

[gdaerin]

110. Oh, right, being a first lady is the ultimate symbol of Strength! n/t

[gdaerin]

111. Who would muslims believe to be weaker? man or woman?

[caraher]

115. That's why I think this is a bad way to frame the issue

Not so much because it actually matters whether the president is a man or a woman, but because of the perception that some types of people (according to the MSM, whoever relies on the politics of fear) make us more secure than others. In that game the Republicans win through no merit of their own, but because of the narrative the MSM has fed the electorate for years.