Bill and Hillary PRAISE Ronald Reagan....

[elizm]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/05/reagan.health/index.html

Former President Bill Clinton and his wife, Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, issued a statement that praised the former president for his optimistic outlook.

"Hillary and I will always remember President Ronald Reagan for the way he personified the indomitable optimism of the American people, and for keeping America at the forefront of the fight for freedom for people everywhere...

"We will always remember his tremendous capacity to inspire and comfort us in times of tragedy, ...and we can rest assured that, as joyous a place as Heaven is, his wit and sunny disposition are making it an even brighter place to be." President Bill Clinton and Sen. Hillary Clinton.


And a few more words of praise from some Democrats...

"President Reagan brought back grace, strength and class to the American presidency. He restored the nation's pride at a time when our collective spirits were low."Governor Bill Richardson

“Even when he was breaking Democrats' hearts, he did so with a smile and in the spirit of honest and open debate. The differences were real, but because of the way President Reagan led, he taught us that there is a big difference between strong beliefs and bitter partisanship.” Sen. John Kerry

“We often disagreed on issues of the day, but I had immense respect and admiration for his leadership and his extraordinary ability to inspire the nation to live up to its high ideals. He will be honored as the president who won the Cold War, and his 'Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall' will be linked forever with President Kennedy's 'Ich bin ein Berliner.' " Sen. Ted Kennedy
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/16/22424/9811/227/438094

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. You Are Conflating Ceremonial Praise With Endorsement Of His Philosophy

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[thunder rising]

8. Thank you, well put

The one best way to polarize a party is to belittle the recent dead. A little empathy goes a long way and it costs nothing except from the those that exactly mirror all that we hate in the right wing.

[jefferson_dem]

19. How Clintonian of you.

:thumbsdown:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Disingenuous Much

If someone I dislike dies I'm not going to use the opportunity to say what a dick he was...

If you would use the opportunity to piss on a dead man or woman that's your prerogative...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

37. yup

[KittyWampus]

41. So who else was endorsing his philosophy? Certainly not Obama. Any attempt to insinuate othewise

pretty much would make you a liar.

[Rabrrrrrr]

2. Yeah - in 2004, right after his death. Of course they praised him.

He'd just died. Everyone in politics HAD to praise him.

Newt will praise Bill Clinton when he dies (if Newt is still alive, that is).

It's what they do.



Pretty sad that one has to dig up shit from 2004 and disguise it as current.

[wyldwolf]

3. LOL! Upon his death, a former president won't condemn a former president.

[ShortnFiery]

5. No, but Hill and Bill almost jumped in the grave with Saint Ronnie.

Oh the hypocrisy! :eyes: :rofl:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Can You Be More Disingenuous?

Were the Clinton's supposed to piss on a dead president's grave?

[MonkeyFunk]

10. yes she can

just wait.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. The Mental Gymnastics It Would Take Is Daunting

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[ShortnFiery]

42. Know-it-all Partisan Spin above all else - including the uniting of our country - is just SAD

but quite transparent. :(

[rodeodance]

12. Rude, just plain rude!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

38. yeah they should have been undiplomatic. that would be classy.

:eyes:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Xactly

When Reagan passed away Bill Clinton was one of the first people to call Ronald Reagan... Was Bill supposed to tell her he was happy?

[indimuse]

4. you make no sense...

and you know it!

[oldgrowth]

9. It's raygun day where's that plane ??????????I know he's still in there

[rodeodance]

11. I THOUGHT WE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS CRAPOLA YESTERDAY!!

[Perry Logan]

13. Woulda been so cool if Obama had said it.

[cboy4]

15. Oh Jesus make it end.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. I Have A Serious Question

Why would a person deliberately conflate ceremonial praise with serious, dispassionate praise to obfuscate an important issue and confuse people?

What would their agenda be?

[Essene]

17. There goes all the anti-obama arguments...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. We Already Established The Difference Between Ceremonial Praise And Serious, Dispassionate Praise

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[jefferson_dem]

20. No. YOU established a distinction without a difference.

Unless you think Bill and Hill were lying...praise is praise. We should accept their words and Obama's as sincere and heartfelt.

[rodeodance]

22. It is well know that people say gracious comments when someone dies---Get Real!

[jefferson_dem]

23. We agree. Is anyone suggesting Bill and Hillary's comments were not gracious?

:shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

44. people have to praise a president when he dies. otherwise its graceless and classless

they do not however have to invoke him during primaries as some sort of uber politician.

[zulchzulu]

21. It depends on the meaning of "praise" is

:boring:

Of course the Clintons praised Raygun. Any Hillbot halfwit who thinks it's some huge issue to exploit on Obama is, well..., a halfwit.

Well... well....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Could You Be More Disingenuous, Peanut?

If you think there is no difference between ceremonial praise offered at one's passing and a sober and dispassionate assessment of a person's body of work there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion...

[rAVES]

28. the only difference is your trying to spin it away in favor of your shit candidate.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I Am Dumber For Having Read That...We Are All Dumber...

The Clinton's declined the opportunity to take a dump on a dead man...Senator Obama , in a dispassionate and sober moment, said "Reagan was a transformational figure who rid the government of the excesses of the sixties and seventies"

[ShortnFiery]

43. Oh please, we all lose when we choose to re-write history and value HYPE over true action. eom.

[rodeodance]

26. and now we have a Dem Candidate involking Ronny--just like Rudy, and John ect ect

[billbuckhead]

27. it is amazing how the Obama cult are now becoming Reagan apologists

:spray: They'll believe anything :+bama says

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. What Is Truly Frustrating Is Their Attempt To Obfuscate The Issue

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[ShortnFiery]

34. You forget the large number of Reagan Democrats (some here?) who wish to forget the past?

Too funny. Your mindset *Reagan's pure evil* reminds me of my die hard republicans acquaintances who used to "talk up" Bush have suddenly FORGOT that they liked him ... now say "they ALWAYS knew that he was false."

Goes to show *selective memory* falls on both extremes of the partisan divide. ;)

Thou protesth too much. :P

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

30. OMFG. How this ridiculous OP ended up on the greatest I'll never understand...

A true POOP...(pathetically obvious OP)...

I"m trademarking that designation, LOL. MKJ

[Pacifist Patriot]

31. I think that at least 3 times a day.

Cheers!

[rosesaylavee]

32. The candidates NOT mentioning Reagan and his optimistic outlook

are beginning to look awfully good to me this week.

[ShortnFiery]

35. No, you can't have the high ground. The ones talking about Reagan are trying to use his entire being

as an blunt force instrument SIMPLY to TRASH the Character of Obama. I note what OBAMA DOES, not the fact that he can state the obvious.

Do you honestly think that a Democratic Nominee should "talk smack" about Reagan?!?

That's not being an apologist because I'll always refer to our D.C. area airport as "National" vice "Reagan National."

However, to PRETEND that many people did not find Reagan's personality magnanimous and charming is to LIE <shriek> in an attempt to rewrite history.

Democrats can WIN a general election without *trashing* the entire persona that many republicans CHOOSE to remember fondly. :shrug:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

36. this is when he died right? not because he wants to be a president like reagan?

:eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

39. Shameless spin ... how typical.

It was said and they lathered it on THICK. ;)

[ShortnFiery]

40. BTW

I'd much rather Obama complement Reagan and VOTE AGAINST both Cluster Bomb Usage and to DENOUNCE the illegal invasion of a country. Guess actions don't mean squat to those who adore everything about the Clintonian DLC in the Executive Branch. :eyes: