SurveyUSA Florida Poll -Clinton 56% Obama 23% Edwards 12% RCP Average -Clinton 49% Obama 30%

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Edwards 11%


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_democratic_primary-261.html


Yes- Florida's delegates don't count but Florida is a microcosm of the nation with roughly the same percentage of Caucasians, African Americans, and Hispanics...

[rodeodance]

1. and Obama broke the rules today--and made FL a contest for him.

[Radical Activist]

2. No wonder Hillary wants Florida to count all of a sudden.

She wants to soften the blow of her likely loss in South Carolina.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Let Him Have South Carolina

I'll take FL without its delegates and clean up on 2/5 because America , demographically looks a lot more like Florida than South Carolina...

[Radical Activist]

4. Actually Illinois is a closer microcosm of the entire nation

than Florida. But I see that you're on message.

[HughMoran]

16. Obama's home state?

On message? Whaaaaa? :wtf:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. I'm Not Making This Shit Up

Florida has roughly the same percentages of African Americans, Asians And Hispanics as the rest of the nation...

[HughMoran]

20. Not questioning you

The person pointing out that Illinois is a better microcosm without also mentioning that Barack also comes from there is ludicrous.

[Radical Activist]

30. Calm down.

Your so eager to attack you miss the point entirely.

Obama has already shown how well he does in a microcosm of the nation. He won a difficult primary and then overwhelmingly in the general election. He won rural white counties south of Richmond Virginia with over 70% of the vote. And yes he won some of those same counties in the primary against two white challengers.

[Radical Activist]

29. Yes, and so does Illinois, yet even more closely than Florida.

[tritsofme]

18. Illinois is uncontested because Obama is the favorite son.

Making anything short of a blowout irrelevant.

And Illinois is far more Democratic than the rest of the nation as well.

[EV_Ares]

25. Here is FL census stats

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12000.html

[Radical Activist]

5. I wonder if Hillary could still win Florida

if Obama was actually campaigning there and doing a GOTV campaign. I'm not sure it means much to win a fight against an unarmed man.

[sunonmars]

13. with the latino and older community in Florida, she's got a hell of a start

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Obama Is The Only One Advertising Here In Violation Of DNC Rules

I just saw one of his commercials, about thirty seconds ago...

[Joe the Revelator]

6. Florida looks like old people, rednecks, and cubans?

I think there is a little more to it then that.

[flordehinojos]

8. don't forget the puerto ricans, peruvians, brazilians, argentinians, canadians,

vietnamese, chinese, native americans, and so many more who live here .. and don't forget, "this land is your land, this land is my land, from california to the new york islands, this land was made for you and me." bush his daddy and his brother never knew that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I Resent His Shot At Cubans

It seems only one form of bigotry is to be eschewed on this board...

I'm in Orlando... We have a burgeoning Puerto Rican community... I suspect the poster doesn't respect them either...

[Joe the Revelator]

22. What shot at cubans? Is it an insult to lump then in with the elderly

who together with the rednecks make up a large group of Florida. I'm sorry you think that insulting Cubans, but I don't see how your logic can carry you there, unless you're digging.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. You Forgot The Colombians And Venezuelans

As for red neck I presume he means someone with a southern accent who works the field... I meet one every year or so...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Actually It's About 67% White 15% African American 15% Hispanic

But thank you for disrespecting my Cuban brothers and sisters...

[EV_Ares]

28. FL breakdown on census stats:

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12000.html

[BeyondGeography]

7. So Hillbot Nation (yes, on this one you are acting like a Hillbot) will be thumping their chests

over a race that isn't contested and doesn't count.

More weasally behavior from the couple that just can't quit the power game. And you expect our hearts and minds to follow?

[Radical Activist]

10. I wonder if Hillary will do a GOTV campaign in majority black precincts.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. I Wasn't Thunping My Chest

I was making the correct inference that Florida is more representative of the United States, demographically, than any other state in the nation , save NY, and Cali...

And on February 5th Hillary will do quite well because it's a nat'l primary and the nation reflects the demographics of Florida...

[BeyondGeography]

21. Candidates will be campaigning in Feb. 5 states and ignoring Florida

you left that part out.

[sunonmars]

11. Actually SC may not be out of reach for Hillary

The CNN poll on Fri shows Obama with 60% the AA vote and 31% to Hillary (i thought it would be more)

31% of 50% AA votes is about 16% of the total AA vote.

Now the white vote is the mystery in SC but if the white vote splits Hillary's way as it has in the last 3 primaries massively, she may take 60-70% maybe more, if her current polling holds that would give her an additional 30%+ or so. If this holds out then Barack will take between 42 - 50% and Clinton around 39-46%, Edwards 5-10%

I have to say, the white vote in SC is going to be very unpredictable.

I actually think John Edwards is not gonna do well in SC, I think people are realligning their votes to the big 2.

Thats not enough for him to walk away with a convincing win if its that close.

Survey USA's last poll shows Obama on 46% and Clinton 36%, but the telling thing is, it has a MOE of 5%.

This thing is not over. It may be closer than we think.

[EV_Ares]

23. How do you figure FL a microsm of the nation with elderly, hispanics, african americans; you say

roughly the same %. Not hardly. Maybe you have some stats for that, curious as they always indicate FL as a state certainly not like others.

[KennedyGuy]

24. and this in spite of Obamas cheating...

[EV_Ares]

26. FL Census shows hispanics 20.2 FL compared to 14.8 nation & also higher

in blacks, etc. as well.


http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12000.html

[Occam Bandage]

27. Delegate split if numbers hold: Clinton 0, Obama 0, Edwards 0.