AP Picture of Obama turning back on Sen. Hillary Clinton

[journalist3072]

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And here is the AP caption:

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., greets Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., back to camera, as fellow hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. turns away before President Bush's the State of the Union address before a joint session of Congress, Monday Jan. 28, 2008, on Capitol Hill in Washington.
(AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080129/480/d6f8aff109d144eb9a2da130cb793a59/

[ruggerson]

1. This is not going to help with women

[EFerrari]

18. Helped with this one. My last straw was the "Hispanics will not vote

for a black candidate". That was it.

[ruggerson]

31. who said that?

another "surrogate"?

[EFerrari]

38. This is the L.A. Times piece:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4249186

[ruggerson]

48. "Sergio Bendixen"?

Okay. :)

[EFerrari]

52. I don't know any of the handlers' names.

I'm not that crazy yet but am working on it.

[ruggerson]

53. He's a minor pollster

I wouldn't let that affect my opinion of a candidate, any of them, sf. They can't control what everyone in the campaign says. Obama, Clinton, Edwards, none of them can.

[EFerrari]

57. Thanks, ruggerson. I'll reread it in the a.m. with that in mind.

:hi:

[rodeodance]

59. Where did that come from/

[okasha]

65. He just lost a few more.

Younger man disrepecting older, respected woman does NOT play well in Hispanic culture.

[EFerrari]

72. Work it. n/t

[ursi]

74. this was staged, she had spoken to him earlier in the Senate

so this was staged for perception. I'd walk away from her fakeness too.

[Unsane]

2. Big deal

[Clintonista2]

3. He was originally facing her, and he turned around as soon as she put out her hand

[ErnestoG]

26. ...because someone had called to him. McLusky, I think

[Pirate Smile]

4. God, this is stupid.

[EFerrari]

36. How dare someone not shake someone else's hand?

lol

[usregimechange]

5. She was ignoring him and was rude so he moved on

[journalist3072]

10. If it makes you feel better to say that, be my guest. eom

[rodeodance]

60. eager for some excuse for this rudeness.

[sandnsea]

6. A picture of Hillary reaching past Obama

Clearly. If she wanted to shake his hand, she would have went to him first and that isn't what anybody has reported.

[EFerrari]

7. She's not even looking at him. Nice try.

After what she and her campaign have done these last weeks, I give Obama all the credit in the world for simply avoiding her bullshit.

[journalist3072]

19. Get a freakin clue....she couldn't look at him because he turned his back on her.

Please don't embarrass yourself.

[EFerrari]

28. As I've said before, I hope you're not a journalist because

you can't even get your camera angles straight. She's reaching out and looking to the left of Obama.

[Quixote1818]

30. Yep, the photo is not very convincing. Unless they have video that shows

it clearly this is a dud.

[EFerrari]

42. Keith just said it's not on video that he knows of. n/t

[BringBigDogBack]

21. fucking a

[tammywammy]

33. Ahh, a voice of sanity!

:hi:

[EFerrari]

43. I don't know, tammy, I've been HERE a lot lately. lol

:hi:

[Joe the Revelator]

8. This is the dumbest scandal ever

Who knows who was calling him? Who knows if Hillary tried to shake her hand.

[AX10]

15. If the shoe were on the other foot, we'd never hear the end of it.

[asthmaticeog]

22. Like we'll ever hear the end of THIS?

:eyes:

[JVS]

66. Jesus, it's not like he flicked a cigarette butt at her!

[asthmaticeog]

73. Who says he didn't?

WE MUST SCRUTINIZE THIS POSSIBILITY AD ABSURDAM! DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE!

[rodeodance]

61. Bravo

[okasha]

29. Nobody's calling him.

Look at his body language and facial expression. He's looking down, not up or around, as people do when they hear their names called.

He's just being a rude, petulant little brat. Real presidential behavior, y'know?

[question everything]

9. Petty and vindictive. Both men (nt)

[Nedsdag]

11. Grow up, people.

They were very cordial during the MLK tribute in South Carolina.

[bellasgrams]

12. He knows he's been bad and doesn't have the nerve to face her

[AX10]

13. Classless as usual.

Thanks journalist3072!
:hi:

[journalist3072]

23. I agree....and you're welcome!

eom

[angie_love]

14. whoopdeedoo

big freakin deal.

[kid a]

16. yep...she def snuck a quick shake while Obama turned - she's a sneaky one!!!!

give it a rest "journalist"

[Tatiana]

17. And here the media goes, inserting itself into the presidential race. n/t

[Quixote1818]

20. Obama sure has moved a long way if she just put her hand out. nt

[ErnestoG]

Nonsense. Hillary's EYES and HAND are on someone else entirely....

I am donating to get some DUers some Lasik surgery....

[pdxmom]

24. Actually, it's Obama with his back turned toward Clinton. You can't

show movement (turning) in a still photo.

[eridani]

25. Sort of looks like there are people in the way, no? n/t

[rodeodance]

62. no.

[libbygurl]

27. I think a moving picture or video would be more persuasive to me, though. nt

[Avalux]

32. The horror! She isn't even looking at him; she's going for Kennedy.

Looks to me as if she bypassed him entirely to get to Kennedy. Without a series of pics or a video, it's nearly impossible to tell exactly what went on there. So Obama haters immediately take the word of one AP reporter and throw rocks at him. Nice.

[smalll]

34. Guess that's just what comes from inexperience.

Plays right into the "likeable ENOUGH" meme. Go ahead, Barack, give Hillary a couple extra percent amongst the Tsunami Tuesday women.

Shaking Bush's hand too, a little extra cherry on top of the error: his people can't plausibly spin that the O-man was just abstaining (or voting "present" as it were) on ALL handshakes this night.

And there are those who contend that this man is ready to last for us until November and then win. Ha Ha. It is to laugh.

[loveangelc]

35. LOL. this is what hillarybots hope will turn into a scandal or something?

hahahahahahahahahahaha. um, ok.

[Tulkas]

37. Hell, I wouldn't shake her hand either

[journalist3072]

40. Maybe because you're graceless like Obama?

[EFerrari]

46. Would you recognize graceless if it fell on you foot?

[desi]

51. She proved that in her post to me below.

Not telling you what to do but maybe you shouldn't waste time on an immovable object.

[krabigirl]

64. That's pretty kla$$y

[Proud2BAmurkin]

39. wow.

[desi]

41. CNN picked up on it and reported it as it happened.

Obama is nothing but a disrespectful misogynist asswipe. If it should come, her victory over the fucker will be even more satisfying.

[EFerrari]

45. Thank you for cheapening feminism over nothing!

:applause:

[desi]

49. Excuse me!

You approve of his treating her in this manner why? I was watching CNN when this happened were you? And if anybody is cheapening feminism you may want to consider your tactic here towards me. I'm willing to bet that I was a feminist before you were old enough to wear a bra.

[EFerrari]

50. And you would be wrong in multiple ways.

"Treating her in this manner"?! What is she, china?

:rofl:

[desi]

54. I'll take that challenge.

En Espanol o en Inlges. Como usted quiera. btw, you are not as funny as you make yourself out to be. Now I know why my reception to the Hispanic forum was less than warm. Must have been my Avatar.

[EFerrari]

55. First you project all over Obama, then me, then the Hispanic forum?

Lighten up. You'll live longer.

[desi]

56. never mind...

.

[JTFrog]

44. Pat yourself on the back for this one. Then wipe the hand shaped shit mark off your back. n/t

[EFerrari]

47. I want to kick and rec this thread because it's journalism at its finest.

[Maddy McCall]

58. YOU CANNOT KNOW THIS FROM A STILL PHOTO.

[kelligesq]

67. Yep, stupid to believe your lying eyes. lololololololol

[Maddy McCall]

70. I'd have to see at least 10 frames to come to the conclusion you have.

Objectivity is rare in GD:p these days.

[krabigirl]

63. Wow. Hopefully, he just didn't see her.

[okasha]

71. Hopefully, Baby Bam

has just had his Ed Muskie moment.

[desi]

68. Please

[Dr Fate]

69. Say what you will though- they all have GREAT hair tonight!!!

!!!!

[Jennicut]

75. People, people, people

Lighten the hell up, get over whatever you need to getover and then postively support your candidate. this is so petty and ridiculous I can't believe I'm even wasting time posting about it except I can't get over how seriously some here are taking this. Who cares about this, really? I am getting tired of the whole, "He just turned off women. She just turned off black people." Oh, and my personal favorite, "Hispanics will only vote this way. Trust me, I know." Sigh. What are we doing? Really, what are we doing? Dubya made a speech last night that I couldn't even watch or stomach. It made me want to puke. This all started in 2000 when some Democrats said Al Gore just wasn't up to snuff. Lets see where that got us. Hmmmm, 7 years later the economy is in the toilet and we spent trillions on a meaningless war (which I really don't care how well or not well the surge is working, we should never have been there). I'm am all for debate in the primaries but this is getting out of control. Support your candidate but PLEASE leave the the malicious comments for Bushco and Repugs. They are the one's that deserve it. If Hillary wins the nom and the election, we will have someone who will try to end the war and look into Universal Heathcare. If Obama wins we will have someone who will try to end the war and look into Universal Healthcare. Maybe the differences are there and Maybe Obama's hc plan does not go as far as Hillary's. Maybe Hillary voted for the war in Iraq and Obama did not approve of it. Who cares? These are small differences compared to the Repugs. McCain tells us there will be other wars. We can't afford other wars. We are already in debt. McCain will do nothing about healthcare. Romney is even worse. Those are our rivals. We are tearing the Democratic Party in half (or thirds) and that is what the Repugs want. If this is what Hillary and Bill Clinton want in order to win well I have news for them, this won't work. I doubt Obama wants this as most of his speeches are about unification. Come on everyone. Don't forget the last 7 years. Dems are not perfect but they are better than Repugs!

[Avalux]

76. Hilllary is shaking Teddy's hand and looking at him - Obama isn't included in the moment.

It's a photo. Open to interpretation and unfortunately, some have chosen to interpret off the deep end.

[jefferson_dem]

77. Another angle, that shows a quite different picture...

[Renew Deal]

78. Who's that lady in the middle?

She looks like she got caught in the middle of something.

[Maribelle]

79. It is me, or does Obummer look like he is whistling dixie?

:o