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Sat Feb-02-08 09:05 PM
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| Looking more and more like a Hillary & Edwards Team |
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What Edwards has, that Hillary needs it the ability to help her pull the White Men in a race against McCain!Otherwise those same votes may go across to the refurb party for McCain....Edwards voters John and his supporters may get what we wanted. John Edwards on the 2008 TICKET
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:06 PM
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| 1. Naw, Hillary/Clark, man. That's the winner! Edwards for AG. n/t |
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:19 PM
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| 16. Can they run together? |
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They're both from Arkansas, doesn't the Constitution prohibit that?
Or is it ok now that she's "from" New York?
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:22 PM
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Hillary is a resident of NY. But she's from Illinois, as is Clark, coincidentally. But the constitution doesn't care where you're born - as long as it's in the US.
And the constitution doesn't prohibit it, it just says the electors from that state can't cast their votes. So even if they both lived in Arkansas, they could still run - but electors from Arkansas wouldn't be able to vote for them both.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:17 AM
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| 28. Agree. Wes Clark can provide the "macho" angel |
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for the men who do not trust women to be "commander in chief."
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:06 PM
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| 2. what makes you write that? |
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I haven't heard any buzz in that direction.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:15 PM
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| 11. Simple know who has what voters,, |
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Edwarda took the white men vote, they are a stubborn bunch and really wouldn't want to vote for a woman or black man, if Edwards isn't on the ticket and McCain is on the republican ticket, I see the white men crossing the isle and going with Mccain, after all didn't we get reports that some dem.white men who thought Edwards didn't have a chance, crossed over and voted republican.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:06 PM
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| 3. I wouldn't hold my breath. Bet you 10 to 1 it's Biden or Richardson, anyway. |
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:18 PM
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| 13. Biden has his chance, frankly I like him but he puts his foot in his own mouth too often |
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I don't know enough on Richardson, after all she doesn't need that much help in knowing how to run the government, Edwards can talk the southern talk and men like him.. Unless she comes out of left field with someone it will be John Reid Edwards as V.P.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:14 AM
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| 25. I don't have nearly the confidence you seem to that HRC knows what she's doing. |
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Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 12:16 AM by impeachdubya
frankly, my fear is she will be a disaster if she gets the nom. I think the most likely scenario whereby the GOP holds on to the WH is a McCain-Hillary race.
But, we shall see. Of course, I will support our nominee whoever he or she is.
I doubt she picks Edwards, though. His anti-corporate rhetoric is likely to rub a lot of her big backers the wrong way (Obama's, too, to be fair) ... and you can't discount the "been there, done that" factor. We've already had a blank-Edwards ticket.
Like I said- if she gets the nom, I bet she picks Biden or Richardson, Richardson not just because of his executive experience but also because of the potential to deliver the West and the Hispanic vote.
Edit: Dude downthread has a point. I would put Vilsack on the short list, too.
If Obama was to get the nod, I might see Edwards being picked for veep, but I'd still put it as less than likely. Personally, I'd like to see him get one of our party's solid fighters, someone like Russ Feingold- but that probably wouldn't gel with Obama's big "unity" thing. So who knows.
That's my Nostradamus act for today.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:12 AM
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| 24. Biden will be Sec'y of Defense |
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and Richardson, maybe State Dept.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:08 PM
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| 4. I'm hoping for Clinton/Obama. nt |
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:14 AM
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| 26. That would be a big mistake... |
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need to attract others with VP Choice. Edwards would be great. Look at JFK...he picked LBJ and hated him. It was strategic.
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Sun Feb-03-08 04:52 AM
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| 31. White men stay away from that ticket in such numbers that |
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it's likely a loser.
I am really, really sorry to have to say that.
More to the point, either Clinton or Obama almost certainly pick a silver-haired white guy with some depth of experience -- Clark, Biden, Dodd perhaps (although they could select Bill Richardson and get handily elected).
In terms of surprises both good and bad -- and since it's all just speculation -- if Clinton takes somebody like Tom Vilsack, she flops. Obama could tap, say, Kathleen Sebelius and overcome much of the disappointment of the millions of women who yearn to vote for the first female president. Still a risky play to alienate so many Caucasian male independents. And yes, the not unsubstantial number of bigoted Democrats out there, too.
Moving delicately away from the race and gender card game, I just don't think that Clinton or Obama have any desire to be either's second fiddle. And the dossier of opposition research on both will be so thick that the two of them running together would be a daily spewing fountain of excrement from the Right so thick that we would all be vomiting well before November.
Each one -- whichever one it happens to be -- is going to want, and need, a fresh face.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:08 PM
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| 5. Do you really think Edwards would be willing to share the VP slot with Bill? n/t |
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Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 09:08 PM by alteredstate
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:23 PM
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| 18. Sure...Edwars would love to pick The Clintons brains |
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Who wouldn't, he has already made it in the every day world,why not go on to learn from the master (William Jefferson Clinton. Bill Clinton spent his entire life studying how to run the government, he studied every president and read every book he could find on the government, heck I thin John and the Big Dog will get along well...Don't you let some of the democrats and the media tell you lies about Bill Clinton, heck in S.C. he knew what was going on and told the nation...and then he was blamed for bringing race into the primary, Obama and his wife brought the race thing in...Big Dog just answered.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:10 PM
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| 6. I just can't imagine... |
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Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 09:12 PM by TwoSparkles
Edwards in the Hillary camp.
I see Edwards as a Progressive. I see Hillary very differently.
I also think Edwards clearly saw the kind of campaign that Hillary and Bill ran. I don't think Bill's "Jesse Jackson won here also" comment really warmed up Edwards to Hillary.
Plus, I cannot imagine Edwards in the vp slot, given the Bill and Hillary team. I think the dynamics of that would be a complete nightmare. They need a loyal Clinton lackey to endure that.
I just can't see it at all. Maybe I'm totally wrong.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:12 PM
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| 7. Obama needs the same thing, doesn't he? |
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"the ability to help her pull the White Men in a race against McCain"
especially white men from Southern states..
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:13 PM
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dream on. JE brings nothing in electability to a ticket. He's hardly the only white man out there.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:14 PM
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| 9. Looking how? Based on what? |
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:16 PM
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As an Edwards supporter, I'd be surprised to see that happen.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:14 PM
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| 10. Except for the fact that Edwards, and his wife, can't stand the Clintons... |
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...by all accounts within their campaign.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:18 PM
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| 14. That's the Edwards' I know and love.. |
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the ones who wouldn't compromise their principles to help the marauding clintons.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:24 PM
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| 19. Who said so CNN or Fox |
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:25 PM
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| 20. Friendship has nothing to do with choosing a VP |
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it's purely a political calculation.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:19 PM
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| 15. it's not looking at all like a Clinton/Edwards team |
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good lord, what makes you think that?
He's already run for President twice and lost, and was the VP candidate and lost. And he's said he doesn't want to run for VP again.
No way is Edwards the VP nominee.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:32 PM
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| 22. And Clark was a republican then a dem. when the rep.wouldn't give him the time of day |
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Clark, Richardson,Biden or none other than John Edwards and Hillary togeather can pull the White Men Votes in the coming GE and Bill Clinton is aware of the fact...Don't fool your self no matter what the Media and some democrats on this board say about the Big Dog, there is no one in this nation that knows politics like Clinton, In the south politice is what we are fed three meals a day..This old lady took polls for FDR with her dad and he fed her politics reg... I think I may have gone with my dad to take polls for FDR..we would ride all day from one little country store in Fayette Co.Ga to another he would go in leaving me in the car sit for about 20 minutes come out with a half finished coke , use his pen then on to another store, don't know for sure that was what he was doing but it was during his time, then when the candidates called he could tell them what the county was thinking..So simple back in those days.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:15 AM
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| 27. Becoming Prez in 8 years |
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might convince him otherwise.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:56 AM
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| 30. but it won't convince Clinton to choose him |
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he adds nothing to a Clinton ticket.
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Sat Feb-02-08 09:26 PM
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It will be Bayh or Vilsack or some other DLC hack who needs payback.
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Sun Feb-03-08 04:59 AM
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a guaranteed November loser. I have to think that Hillary isn't that stupid.
Biden? I could see that. Dodd? Geez, I would hope. Clark? I could be OK with it. Richardson? I have to think so, even given her strength in the Latino community.
I'm just hoping Hillary isn't the one doing the choosing.
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Sun Feb-03-08 03:41 PM
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| 35. It will depend on whether or not she need help. |
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If they figure the slot is hers, you can COUNT on the VP position going to a DLC sycophant.
If she is fighting for the nomination, who knows, maybe they will haul Clark out.
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Sat Feb-02-08 10:19 PM
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Edwards has promised to FIGHT Corporate Corruption....NOT join in it with a Hillary DLC administration.
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:20 AM
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| 29. John might take AG or SC, but VP to Hillary? |
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Sun Feb-03-08 05:01 AM
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| 34. Bunch of PR tripe. Hillary ain't hardly about to put John Edwards on her ticket..... |
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That's like a wet dream that will never happen.
And ya'll know it.
Here's another Hillary supporter talking race as a prime point again.....
Fucking sad.
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