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peoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:53 PM Original message |
Were Caucuses Always Unfair and Undemocratic to All Parties in All Years, or just 2008? |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. just in 2008 and just to the loser of said caucus...Hillary |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. They'd be fine if Hillary were winning them. No candidate that I know of has |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. If you check some of the other threads in GD-P, you'll find supporters of both candidates |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. dupe |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. Nope, It wasn't a problem until |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. We largely didn't care before |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yes, that is a valid point. And I'm NOT a Hillary supporter. Never have been.n/t |
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ctaylors6 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. It also hasn't been this close in a while. Any voting issues stand out more |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Exactly! n/t |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. If one side can mobilze more voters to show up for the caucus, then that |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. Never heard a peep about how "unfair" they were until this year |
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Catch22Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
9. Bush complained about them a LOT in 2000 |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. Up until now a lot of people really didn't understand how it worked. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
11. in most years the nominee is a done deal before voting gets anywhere NEAR ME |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Thank you, Skittles. That is exactly what some of us have been trying to say. n/t |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:05 PM Original message |
Caucuses were just fine with the Hill-folk up through Nevada..... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. Please check some of the other discussions in GD-P. Both sides are raising issues. n/t |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. Caucuses were just fine with the Hill-folk up through Nevada..... |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. Just in '08, and just in the states Hillary lost. n/t |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. Bill Clinton didn't complain about the when he won twice n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
18. Sure they were |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. Sure they were |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
20. It's a sales campaign for possible future litigation - kinda like their push on Florida and Michigan |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
22. I had never heard of the Texas Two Step until now. My parents have never been aware of the caucus |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. You blame others for your own ignorance? |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. snark. are you finished? |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I'm a participant, not a spectator |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Deleted message |
antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. The Texas Two Step? Oh, that's good. n/t |
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TheZug (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
23. Just this year, when Hillary's running. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
24. They are complete bullshit |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I agree with the "bullshit" tag. And I am NOT an HRC supporter. n/t |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Why do I have a feeling... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. ARGGGH! BOTH sides are questioning. Not just HRC supporters. n/t |
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NEDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
25. Nope, just this year, because Hillary lost. |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. No, there are supporters from BOTH sides raising legitimate concerns. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
27. they ALWAYS suck!1 It's a CULT thing!1 n/t |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
35. Just 2008 |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
36. finally, somebody said it |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
39. Always. 100%. Not a two-sided issue. They've always been anti-democratic |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
40. In 1992 they were just fine. |
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