Concerning whom they wish to face in the general election, Republicans

[stickdog]

say, "We always lie."

Should we take them at their word or not?

[molly]

1. I think they would like to face Howard Dean

[arewethereyet]

5. thats been their reaction thus far

but I don't think they much care.

for what its worth in the polls, its a statistical dead heat among the top 5 or 6.

they have the goods to pillory all but Edwards and Lieberman to some extent.

they are "cautiously optimistic" and are doing a pretty good job of starting to whip the faithful into a froth. they know that a serious effort will be required.

[necso]

6. Agree.

The US today is like the USSR of old, you need to be a specialist to decode "the party" BS (in this case it is republican party BS --- if you can tell the difference). Some "party" claims are just plain old lies but others are wishful thinking. There may be a third category --- but I haven't found it.

The wishful thinking is that Dean is going to win the nomination. The lying part is that Dean will be a tough opponent.

[Clark4VotingRights]

16. They've been cheerleading Dean from the start.

I'm so tired of it.

[necso]

18. And as rumor has it.

--- Encouraging contributions to his campaign.

I realize that this is a vile accusation but it would match the republican style --- Real-Politik towards the election process --- Real-Stupid towards everything else.

[Droopy]

2. What does it matter?

Their going to get their asses kicked anyway. Let's get it on!

[Rowdyboy]

3. Basic logic tells you what you need to know...

I could care less what they say, hint or plot.

How canyou tell a Repub is lying? His/her lips are moving.

[killbotfactory]

4. Well, let's see...

Bush said Lieberman would be the strongest dem opponent...
And that Dean would be the easiest...

Hmm...

I don't know what to make of it.

[bowens43]

10. WAR IS PEACE,

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

[mot78]

19. The Republikan Party of Oceana!!!

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
Big Shrub is watching!!

[isbister]

20. Re: Well, let's see...

In my opinion...

The republicans probably figure that Dean's gone too far left in the public's mind (to win the nomination) that he'll never be able to get back to where he belongs and I'm sure they're counting on the added bonus will be that they will be able to paint him out as weak on foreign affairs.

Lieberman would probably be too tough for them because they would have so few areas where they disagree.

To me those choices are bush-lite 1 & 2.

I think the republicans and the press are underestimating the Democrats and when we have a nominee, whomever he or she will be, we will band together to beat bush. Shoot, we could run a dead person and I'd vote for that person over bush (and I bet they'd do a better job, too)

[Leilani]

7. The Republicans are liars

Clarence Page, just said on Capial Report, that Wes Clark is Bush's worst nightmare. Page also said he would give anything to see a Bush/Clark debate.

Go Wes!

[Capn Sunshine]

8. Today, a republican flack said he wants to see a "clark vs Bush " debate

With Alan Murray tonite on Capital Report. So that's the word today. They are lying when the say they want Dean, but not lying when they say they want to face Clark.

THAT is how sneaky these bastards are

[Leilani]

11. Clarence Page

is a center/left journalist & he was debating Susan Molinari, a Republican. And Alan Murray wasn't even there. Gloria Borger was hosting.

[Capn Sunshine]

12. Sorry that doofus is anything but left

and barely center

Unless you're inside the beltway. Then he's just another flack.

[blm]

9. and Frank Luntz said dean won all the debates and he could beat Bush.

Now. Isn't Luntz the NUMBER ONE propagandist of the BFEE? The one they use to shape public perception?

[lancdem]

13. Yes

I'm not sure what those comments mean. Hmmm...

[lancdem]

14. Yes

I'm not sure what those comments mean. Hmmm...

[Capn Sunshine]

17. The only question left

was it a lie designed to masqy=uerade as truth ? An enigma wrapped in a mystery inside a jelly donut? Was it the truth designed to look like a lie, but its really true,or was it an outright lie designed to be taken as a lie or was it a halftruth cloaked in innuendo 'cause you know .....

[Walt Starr]

15. If Democrats would stop giving a fuck what Republicans want

and concentrate on what Democrats want, the Party would be miles further than it is today.

Now I don't mean to get off on a rant, but stay with me here.

That's how the pink tutu label came about. Some Democrats actually decided, "oh woe is me, the Republicans will label me a <waffler, liar, liberal, ant-flag, anti-God, blah blah blah, take your pick> if I do this thing that Democrats would really like me to do."

Fuck that noise.

This is why the fuck I am for Dean. He speaks his mind and could give a flying fuck what the hell the Republicans have to say about it. Of course they will lie. Of course they will try to take over the debate. Of course they will just plain make shit up. Hell, Clark is beginning see that no matter what the fuck you say the Republicans will run you down for it so he's taken the "Fuck off you Republican jackoffs" tactic and is speaking his mind which impresses the fuck out of me because I wasn't sure he had it in him after his faltering out of the starting gate.

They're fucking Republicans! They can't help it. They were stuck with the greedy ass, snotnosed, "I could give a fuck about anybody else so long as I've got mine", mouthbreathing, braindead, asshole, jerkoff gene that unfortunately approximately 50% of our backwards assed barbarian unintelligent species has running around the genepool to this day.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

[ozymandius]

21. I would like to buy you a beer, Walt Starr.

Make it a pitcher.

[Walt Starr]

22. Thanks, I had to get that off my chest

It's been burning inside of me for at least two years.

well, make that a little more than three years.

;)

[SupremeBeing]

23. Amen

And I'll buy the second pitcher of beer

[mzmolly]

24. Thanks Walt.

I concur. :toast:

[drfemoe]

26. Hoo Rah!

This needs to be said and said again until it sinks in like a thick axe to the head.

Most of us at DU have managed to avoid their brainwashing techniques so far. I'm not lining up for the R-bot implant today, tyvm.

If so many are worried about what the Rs think, I suggest rubbing the magic bottle and asking Jeanie.

[mzmolly]

25. Yes we should Stickdog.

They do NOT want to face Howard Dean, and we know that's the truth! :)