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Blarch
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:15 AM Original message |
Howard Dean, MTP ..."The MOST delegates wins" |
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IDemo
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. Happy to be the first rec |
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tiptoe
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Wed Apr-30-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
108. Simple MATH: If remaining pledged delegates split 50/50, Clinton needs 69% of uncommitted Super Ds. |
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K Gardner
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. The only rules Clinton follows are hers.. made up to fit her needs at the moment. |
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Blarch
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. He leaned forward and slowed his speech... |
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Zhade
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Sun Apr-27-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. That is so friggin awesome! He put it in her face - NO SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, clinton! |
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Triana
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Sounds like someone I dated once and dumped |
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reflection
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Sun Apr-27-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. "Malignant Narcissism" |
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Captain Angry
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I saw your post... |
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reflection
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #38 |
86. Rush got it from South Park. |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon Apr-28-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
75. I have been saying this for months now |
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LVjinx
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. Actually, Dean is wrong. 2025 are needed, he needs to stop trying to change the rules |
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krawhitham
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Mon Apr-28-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #56 |
66. No you're WRONG |
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N4457S
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Mon Apr-28-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
93. Yes... |
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Va Lefty
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. I guess Howard is "dead" to the Clintons? |
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newmajority
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Howard was "dead" to the Clintons in 2003 |
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Eurobabe
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
82. I can't believe I am going to say this, but given his endorsement of Hillary |
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PassingFair
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Mon Apr-28-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Clinton's DLC buddy, Lieberman, was also working full-time against... |
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4themind
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. Whoever gets to the magic number* (from pledged and super dels) gets the nomination |
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Blarch
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. he said ..."The rules say ..the most delegates wins" |
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4themind
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. He's right and there are two types of delegates-nt |
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StevieM
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Sun Apr-27-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. There are three types of delegates--elected, caucus and super. All count equally. (eom) |
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mckeown1128
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. no pledged and unpledged... |
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Political Heretic
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Mon Apr-28-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
70. That is incorrect. |
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evolvingsteve
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Mon Apr-28-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
94. k, so let's do the math! |
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Window
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
6. K/R. Hear that Hillary, "the most delegates." |
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Scurrilous
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
9. K & R |
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JNelson6563
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
10. Dean is the man. |
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stray cat
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
11. He made a point of the one who had the most elected and super delegates |
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Raven
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. Makes good sense. If BO is raising more $ and has a broader, deeper fundraising |
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Zhade
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Sun Apr-27-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Especially with the new co-financing deal between the DNC and the Obama campaign. |
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psychopomp
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
13. That is the way the process is intended to work |
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dbmk
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
14. Well, I don't think anyone is contesting that |
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AZSlacker
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Sun Apr-27-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
55. You ar right of course |
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Blarch
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
15. Dean ... |
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greiner3
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Mon Apr-28-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
89. You forgot your sarcasm drippy thing! |
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madfloridian
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
18. Video up now. |
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MonkeyFunk
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
19. of course |
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Zhade
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Sun Apr-27-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. HAHAHAHAHA!! Yeah, right, suuuure you haven't. |
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MonkeyFunk
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Sun Apr-27-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Seriously |
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whopis01
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Sun Apr-27-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. People have argued about a plurality versus an absolute majority. |
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MonkeyFunk
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Mon Apr-28-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. I've never heard that |
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Fedja
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Mon Apr-28-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Is it? |
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whopis01
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Mon Apr-28-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
97. Did you read the OP? That was the argument being made there. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED
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Mon Apr-28-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
79. You're telling me/us that you haven't heard the popular vote argument? |
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rinsd
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Mon Apr-28-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
102. And who is that argument directed at? Superdelegates who can vote as they please. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. And when will that happen? |
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rinsd
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Superdelegates vote at the convention. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:23 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. And the leaders have made it abundantly clear that |
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otohara
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
20. Rules is Rules |
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bbgrunt
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Sun Apr-27-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
21. I do love that good doctor! |
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Left coast liberal
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Sun Apr-27-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
22. That is such a great picture of Howard! |
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democrattotheend
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Mon Apr-28-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
63. Love that picture - I'm in it! |
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evolvingsteve
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Tue Apr-29-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
107. lol |
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Enrique
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Sun Apr-27-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
23. Dean didn't take sides |
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DemVet
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Sun Apr-27-08 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
24. Actually, the rules say... |
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cali
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Sun Apr-27-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. they'll trake lots of things into consideration and hill does not |
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SoCalDem
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Sun Apr-27-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. So when enough SDs vote to give Barack 2025 |
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PseudoIntellect
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Sun Apr-27-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Most of the SDs have already decided, and it has almost been split down the middle. |
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Zhade
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Sun Apr-27-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
26. Indeed. Obama will be the nominee. |
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frickaline
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Sun Apr-27-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. Another misleading thread: he said most SUPERdelagates |
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Rosa Luxemburg
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. yes he said Superdelegates not delegates, however............. |
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Blarch
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Mon Apr-28-08 06:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
72. Bull shit. |
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frickaline
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Mon Apr-28-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #72 |
88. not true - quotes enclosed |
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harun
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Mon Apr-28-08 07:44 AM Response to Reply #34 |
78. You wish (n/t) |
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frickaline
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. as an undecided voter - I Don't *wish* ... I just read |
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LSK
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Mon Apr-28-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
92. that doesnt even make sense |
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PseudoIntellect
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Sun Apr-27-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
35. The rules don't have her winning, so no, she doesn't want them to be followed. |
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MNBrewer
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. He brought me back to the Party |
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Captain Angry
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
39. I'm glad he keeps reminding the candidates that they have responsibilities. |
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frickaline
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I think he's doing a really fine job with this very difficult situation |
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kenny blankenship
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
40. Why ask her? You know she'll just change the subject |
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ihelpu2see
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
43. does that mean he said this on Meet the Press today? eom |
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Yossariant
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
44. Yep. Russert said, "ELECTED delegates?" and Dean responded, "Delegates." |
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Laura PourMeADrink
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
46. Personally, I think this post is misleading ! He didn't say that |
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madfloridian
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. He quoted the rules, and he said he did not think it would happen that way. |
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Blarch
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Mon Apr-28-08 06:10 AM Response to Reply #46 |
73. You are lying... |
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Laura PourMeADrink
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #73 |
85. Right - I know that - I was referring to what he said about SDs using |
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Cha
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
47. Thank you, Dear Dean! |
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kentuck
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
48. Don't be deceived. |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
50. Isn't fundraising a sign of "electability" and "popular votes" . . . ??? |
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Sun Apr-27-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Dean was a little shaky with his stances this morning |
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Zynx
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Sun Apr-27-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. That's a questionable argument. |
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Sun Apr-27-08 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
54. Has he single handedly chosen for the superdelegates? |
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mzmolly
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
57. There's my man! |
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debbierlus
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
58. Well, maybe a war with the democratic party is needed |
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psychopomp
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. DEMS da RULES |
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
60. Dean is right, at the end of first ballot voting, one candidate will have 2024+ delegates. |
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
61. That is a great picture. |
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democrattotheend
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
62. That's me in that picture! |
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Mon Apr-28-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You have a great, great face. So warm and genuine. n/t |
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Apollo11
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Mon Apr-28-08 06:10 AM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Are you the person in the cap holding up the sign? |
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democrattotheend
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Yup, that's me |
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Apollo11
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Mon Apr-28-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
100. Awesome! |
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Rex_Goodheart
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Mon Apr-28-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. I'm in love |
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quantass
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Mon Apr-28-08 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
68. k&r |
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Mon Apr-28-08 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
69. That's it! Those are the rules! |
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Apollo11
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Mon Apr-28-08 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
71. Howard Dean is being totally fair and balanced |
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Medusa
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Mon Apr-28-08 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
77. Yep. That's how the rules of the DNC work. |
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baldguy
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Mon Apr-28-08 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
80. Hillary: "Rules? We don't need no stinkin' rules!" |
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Pavlovs DiOgie
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
81. That picture brings me back to the days |
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undeterred
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
84. This is just too complicated for Hillary supporters to understand... |
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Iggo
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Mon Apr-28-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
91. You people are just figuring this out? |
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Arkansas Granny
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Mon Apr-28-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
95. Hasn't it always been about the number of delegate that will determine |
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knixphan
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Mon Apr-28-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
96. Go Howard- |
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Major Hogwash
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Mon Apr-28-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
98. Good-bye Hillary. Good-bye Bubba. Take your racist bullshit somewhere else. |
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Texas Hill Country
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Mon Apr-28-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
99. the most DELEGATES... that includes super that can use any measuring stick. |
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rinsd
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Mon Apr-28-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
101. Delegates = Pledged + Supers. Pop vote is an argument for SUPERS. |
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Wed Apr-30-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #101 |
111. No it's not a popular vote at all as it woud be just the big states counted they wouldn't... |
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azmouse
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
105. kick |
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barack the house
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Wed Apr-30-08 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
109. There is no popular vote delegates are assigned so small states are counted. |
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Ramonna Villota
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Wed Apr-30-08 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
110. YES |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
112. Supers are delegates too...and they both will need them |
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