Do You Think Bush* Was AWOL From His Air National Guard Obligations?

[arwalden]

Poll question: Do You Think Bush* Was AWOL From His Air National Guard Obligations?

Also... you may have heard of this site already... but there may be others who haven't yet visited it. It's very thorough and can be a bit tedious to read because of how detailed the author is... but it's very compelling once you get into it.

THE AWOL PROJECT: An Examination of the Bush Military Files (http://www.glcq.com/)

-- Allen

[flordehinojos]

1. Yes, definitely

in the same way that he was AWOL from his President of the United States post the morning of 9/11 when he "DECIDED TO LET THE PROGRAM RUN OUT".

Which program one might ask him since those are his words--the school function he was attending? or, the attack on U.S. targets in which, I believe, Bush was complicit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Keirsey]

2. tomorrow

Dubya is speaking tomorrow at the VFW* convention in Cincinnati. Hope that there are some very big signs about the AWOL issue.

*Veterans of Foreign Wars: An organization that * can't join.

This administration’s disappointing budget request once again renews our call for mandatory funding for veterans’ health care. As the Presidential Task Force to Improve Health Care Delivery for Our Nation’s Veterans noted, there is a fundamental mismatch between the increasing demand for veterans’ health care and the administration’s and Congress’ ability to provide financial resources. As this nation’s veterans’ population grows even older, this demand will escalate, worsening this mismatch.

http://www.vfwdc.org/NLS/Testimony/2004/cinc.htm

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. The NERVE of that SOB

to USE the VFW as a backdrop in his campaign. I hope they stone him. :evilgrin:

[Canuckistanian]

3. By definition, definitely

AWOL

adjective {after verb} ABBREVIATION FOR

absent without leave: describes a member of the armed forces who is away without permission:

- The pilot is serving 22 days detention for going AWOL.

from http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/awol

A particularly apt useage example n'est-ce pas?

[trof]

4. I have corresponded with Paul Lukasiak.

Based on my own national guard, experience I sent him some information and suggested a couple of directions he might look in.

He was very cordial and appreciative. The man has done monumental research and uncovered material that I thought would be buried forever. I believe he is entirely credible.
p.s. Don't look for this on CNN.

[AndyTiedye]

5. AWOL!

[gottaB]

6. Yes, but

I think he may have been guilty of desertion, even though he can't be charged with that at this late date, and conceivably he could have offered his narcotics addiction as a legitimate excuse.

AWOL for sure.

[lagniappe]

7. Definitely AWOL.

If Bush had a scintilla of documentation that proved his service, Fox News would be trumpeting the fact 24/7. Bush is the commander-in-chief for Christ's sake, and he can't find his military records.

Bush is a coward, and I am more inclined to believe he is a deserter. AWOL is much to kind a label for him.

[underseasurveyor]

8. Will the two that voted 'no'

Please come forward and prove the rest of us wrong?
Dare ya :evilgrin:

[arwalden]

10. I Have A Theory Or Two About Those Two "No" Votes...

1) They are in deep denial.
2) Screwballs who always vote contrary just to skew polls.
3) They misunderstood the question.
4) They haven't examined the evidence.

[underseasurveyor]

13. Yup......What you said

You forgot number 5) Chicken shits that can't or won't back up what they think they know.
Like my Momma dun use'ta tol'me....
It's impossible to back up a mockingbird mouth with a hummingbird ass.
ha ha :evilgrin:

:hi:

[Endangered Specie]

11. Do you think the Pope is Catholic?

[Hippo_Tron]

28. Yes, Likely

There's a chance that he's Jewish.

[erpowers]

12. He Cannot Recall What He Did?

One of Bush's explanations about his Guard service is that he can only vaguely remember being in the Guard and that he cannot remember what he did. I do not buy this. If someone is in the National Guard or the military they will remember what they did when they were with their unit. I do not care if it is twenty years later, the person will at least remember one thing and one person who was over them. It is impossible to go through a period and not remember the name of one person you served with. Even if you were an alcoholic or a drug addict you will have to remember someone or something.

[underseasurveyor]

14. It's a pretty significant event in someones life.

You'd think he'd be able to recall just a little bit more than he does.

Hell in the 1980's my Grandpoppa use to tell me stories of World War one and two. And I still remember many of those stories he told.

[jerryvov]

15. AWOL?

One of Bush's explanations about his Guard service is that he can only vaguely remember being in the Guard and that he cannot remember what he did

Bullshit...I went through bootcamp at Parris Island in 1956 and served three years in the Marines...I may not recall every single day's events but I damn sure know where I was and what I was doing and I remember a lot of my buddies. He's a liar.

[blue neen]

23. He is a liar.

It's just one of the many techniques they use in their massive "Spin" machine. I just do not understand why the media does not NAIL him on this. I guess I'm just that naive to think that they would even TRY! It pisses me off.

[Karenina]

32. How hard do you think

it would be to get hold of someone who SAW YOU THERE? :evilgrin:

$10,000 has been offered to ANYONE who can place the *dauphin where he should have been, when he should have been there. UNCOLLECTED.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm......

[arwalden]

16. Self Indulgent Kick

[buycitgo]

17. flight physical is MUCH more important

see why here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=624346#624830

[cynatnite]

20. When I was in Germany

We did flight physicals. It's been some years ago, but I honestly can't remember one not showing up. Once in a blue moon they would reschedule. Those guys were nuts about flying. It was everything to them and keeping their flight status was a major priority.

I add that these were chinook, blackhawk and huey pilots.

I can't see it being that much different for jet pilots.

Cyn:)

[oasis]

18. Without a doubt. AWOL.

[buycitgo]

19. flight phys is MORE important

[sandnsea]

21. Absolutely

He wasn't there, didn't want to be there, would have been thrilled to never go again.

Although I'm still not sure it's technically, legally, AWOL. All the legal jargon and rules and such.

[Warren DeMontague]

22. Not if his obligations involved

pony kegs and eight balls.

[buycitgo]

24. flight physical is MUCH more important

[demwing]

25. Is There Any Doubt?

And if there were any doubt, there is still the question of why Bush failed to take his flight physical.

[yardwork]

26. Bending over backwards to give him the benefit of the tiniest doubt

I still vote "probably." Why every other person in the U.S. doesn't see the obvious problems with shrub's military record gaps and lies and missed physicals is beyond me.

Mass hypnosis? Something in the water?

[demwing]

27. Mass Self-Hypnosis comes closest

My sense of it is that people have been lead to believe that Bush is some kind of hero of 9/11, and they buy into it because it make them feel safer to believe that our President is a hero rather than a zero.

You would think he was out there pulling people from the wreckage, saving victims, and personally kicking terrorist ass with his very own hands.

Obviously, no one has actually said this, but the image has settled in with so many people because they have heard it on the news that Bush pulled us through 9/11.

[buycitgo]

29. come ON! it's so obvious, your're doing a CSTFFTT bit

MEDIA are STILL ignoring it, even after the swift boat fiasco BEGS them to start covering it again

I can't BELIEVE they're still ignoring it, as well as giving those LIARS the edge, forcing Kerry to prove HE's not lying, instead of making those aholes PROVE their assertions

not to mention, they pretty much ignore the provenance of their money, Corsi's freepness, ONeill's insistance he voted for GORE!

egregious stuff like that

[yardwork]

30. I agree that the media's coverage is disgraceful

The WH would not get away with these lies without the complicity of the media. The state of journalism in this country is far more worrisome that shrub's presidency, as bad as that is.

[demwing]

31. As far as I can see, we agree

What part of the forest do you think I'm missing? :)

I blame the media in part, but I also blame the people who will swallow whatever they are fed without once questioning the source or motivation of their information masters.