ATTENTION Swift Boat Duds For LIES!

[matcom]

I AM A VETERAN

How DARE YOU QUESTION Another VETERAN'S SERVICE!! HOW DARE YOU!!!!

If you trash any Man or Woman who WILLINGLY put on a uniform and did HIS or HER DUTY in ANY THEATER, you are a f*cking DISGRACE to your country!!

I never served during war time. but i DID SERVE (and honorably). I made sure the Fulda Gap wasn't breached. I did so through rain and sleet and snow. I did so morning, noon and night.

hey Mr. O'Neill! Want to ride in MY M1A1 Abrams Tank?

YOU trashed a fellow VETERAN pal. That is a Code Of Conduct that is FORBIDDEN. YOU and your Ilk Crossed the LINE! You want ME to salute you as "SIR"? Don't f*cking bet on it. Insubordination? BRING.IT.ON.

I'll do so if my country is in danger but take heed. If *I* am recalled, do yourself a favor and don't find yourself "DOWN RANGE".

Get It?

- A Veteran

[bo44]

1. SPANK THAT ASS

[volosong]

21. LET'S KICK SOME ASS ...From Another Veteran

The American people should be outraged at the news media and political pundits who have been pimping the Swift Boat malarkey, now designated the Sieve Boat, due to all the holes punched in their stories. Accusations of “treason” by a genuine war hero like Scott O’Grady fell from the sky faster than Mr. O’Grady’s plane; and the most ubiquitous dirt devil, John O’Neill, is a shameless smut spreader, who was incited by the Nixon White House to get John Kerry. Thirty-three years later, he’s still trying. That one fact alone says it all.

Although Sieve Boat funding and links to Bush’s Slimegate Campaign are only tentative, the following are indisputable: Some of these flip-flopping vets once supported Kerry, some of these heros still appear disturbed over the civilian deaths and atrocities inherent in any guerrilla warfare with free fire zones; fragging and the hunt for scapegoats did not end with the US withdrawal; most accusations are hearsay and/or contradictory, daily more eyewitnesses and Generals are publicly supporting Kerry; and the official US records support Kerry.

It is also a fact that since under the law, “silence means consent,” that Bush is a fully active participant in . It is also a fact that while John Kerry was fighting, George W. Bush was hiding, and while US military documents validate John Kerry’s medals, they also verify that “W” stands for AWOL. Kerry the zealot volunteer patriot vs. Bush the cowardly criminal.

[seabeyond]

2. yell loud matcom, to everyone you see

you can say it so above and beyond i can ever do. you being vet. it is yours to do. no need saying dem or not, you are a vet, yours to tell the world. good for you

[liberalmuse]

3. Oh, I can feel the anger!

I was in the Army, but not a war veteran and I'm disgusted beyond belief. I want to kick these bastards right in the nuts. If what Kerry did didn't deserve a medal, what the hell does? As far as I'm concerned, these men are insulting everyone who ever put on a uniform for the U.S. military. How dare they attempt to drag a true man of honor through their filth, and you know what? They are going to be the ones smelling like sh*t.

[Vickers]

4. Dude....you called him out. You punked him.

:toast:

Yer buddy,

Veteran Vickers

[REVOLT823]

5. As a former Marine

I couldn't agree with you more.

[Name removed]

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[matcom]

7. Kerry didn't do that in '72 "pal"

but keep drinking the Kool-Aid

he sat before the Congress and quoted from more than 150 TESTIMONIES FROM VETS about their experiences

got a tip for YOU TOO pal.....

DON'T find yourself down range from me either :eyes:

[Name removed]

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[tishaLA]

12. But he didn't "slander all the men"

so just stop your lying. Have you actually read/heard his testimony? Tell me WHERE the fuck it says anything about "all" or "every" anything? Of COURSE most were innocent of cimmitting atrocities, and Sen. Kerry never said they were guilty.

Your tricks are cheap and revolting and your comments to matcom are unworthy of comment. Go hide under a rock.

[Vickers]

8. Hey, throw your vote away,cowboy

Look what it gotcha in 2000.

BTW: which branch did you serve in?

[llloyd]

13. doing the right thing

You don't always get the things you want right now by doing the right thing, but in the end, I think your life is better for it.

Nader may not win in 2004. But I won't have turned over my right to select a president over to a few powerful guys who saw Kerry as just the right kind of marketable product.

[seabeyond]

15. in all the dishonesty and hypocrisy and greed nadar has shown

in the last 6 motnhs, kinda funny you talkin integrity with a vote for this man

[Vickers]

18. Gee, you AND the RW machine like Nader!

:eyes:

[IronLionZion]

54. Nader is most definitely the WRONG thing

he's just a notch higher than Bush in my book. Kerry is way higher than both put together. Kerry respects the working people, Nader does not. Kerry has sound policies that can be enacted NOW and can work. Nader has lots of warm kool-aid and his policies are way off the deep end.

Yes, its true that rich and powerful people back the Democrats and Republicans. That's politics. Kerry is genuine and good. Nader is full of shit and more like Bush than any of his supporters are willing to admit.

If you want to "protest" vote for a third party candidate, there are several running that are better than Nader. Take a look at David Cobb (G) or Michael Badnarik (L).

But I will vote for the guy who Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich have endorsed and who will take our country back from the neo-cons.

[seabeyond]

11. Kerry to do in 1972

he spoke a truth, and we know it is a truth, reflection of history. he had the right to speak the truth having participated in experience and death, and it was a questioning the authority not the fellow troops. he did this in support of the truth. if you cant rap your mind around that, then it is your issue. but in his experience of vietnam and then coming back, having the white fellows sittin in the office own their place in history, is honorable

[ruggerson]

14. FREEPER ALERT

Freeper troll

[bobbieinok]

16. ???Wintersoldier conference was TRUE...read abt this+Toledo Blade

story

There WERE atrocities in VN. Read some history!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fridays Child]

10. My husband is a Vietnam Vet, and he approves your message!

:thumbsup:

[matcom]

17. thank you Mary Pat

and thank your hubby for me too will ya?

:loveya:

[BlueCollar]

19. Navy Veteran

USNR
1979-1983
Patrol Squadon 40

I support your message...

:hi:

[matcom]

22. let's kick ass. we need a voice!

:grr:

i am so FUMING MAD RIGHT NOW!!! :argh:

[IdaBriggs]

20. Thank you for your service.

We very much appreciate you. :hug:

[cynatnite]

23. As a former Army medic

I say kick this to the top :kick:

Cyn:)

[matcom]

24. thanks.

for your service

[Joanne98]

25. You just got a challege

From Horwace Guttman aka Az Joe. He e-mailed me and said........

I will meet him anywhere anytime. He is a faggot and traitor! and a disgrace to the uniform he used to wear

Do you want his e-mail? BTW If your wondering RatTerrior put it up once and I e-mailed him and he's been sending me death threats ever since. That's how I "know" him.

[matcom]

26. WHO?

send me a PM

anywhere.anytime

[Joanne98]

28. I just pm'd you

Check it now......

[Touchdown]

27. Holy Crap! MATCOM! Fulda? ...Alons mean anything to you?

If this rings a bell...



Then we're now a band of brothers!

If not, I agree whole heartedly. I may have gotten a couple of insignificant medals in the 80s (Army Achievement and Good Conduct)...but I'll be damned if any of these fuckers question my deserving of them!

[Joanne98]

29. Does anybody here know who AZ Joe from freeperville is?

His real name is Horace Gutman. He's a real jerk. RatTerrior and Rumguy knows him......Anyway he's reading this thread right now and he's all pissed off. Says he's going to do something......But he never does.

[matcom]

30. I'm Honored - My First Freeper Hater

BRING.IT.ON.M*THERFUCKER!

and HIS "service" (other than porta-potty duty) IS???????

yeah. thought so.

READING THIS PAL?

YOU WANNA TRASH A VET??

Your last name MUST be Limbaugh or Hannity or.....

BUSH

:eyes:

[Kukesa]

34. Be careful, matcom -- we need you! n/t

[Joanne98]

38. Don't worry about Buttman

I fight with him all the time. He's a little punk. You can just tell. He picks on girls and I think he lives with his mom. He says things like "glub glub glub". Doesn't that sound like rubber ducky language to you? He found out what town I lived in and was going to send over "the boys from the chapter". Those stupid assholes from stormtroopers or whatever. I was hoping they'd come. people who make threats are stupid. Would you kill somebody after you e-mailed them and told them so. I would have had a sign on my body that said, "look in the computer". lol

[Kukesa]

48. OK, I feel better. Thanks, Joanne. n/t

[LTR]

56. Yeah, I just tossed Azzhole Joe off my message board!

He started stinkin' up the joint.

Just to show how DU obsessed he is, he signed up as "willpitt" within an hour of me opening the board for business. Then he posted as his other sock puppet, 'Johnny Nelson' and this one was a bit nastier and threatening. You can take a look at this sorry fool's work here:

http://eunderground.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=troll

Needless to say, I banned his pathetic sorry ass and blocked his IP. If any of you have experience in tracking IP's (I have some) here it is:

68.2.122.236

Clueless Joe really needs to get a life. Or get laid. Or something.

[Joanne98]

58. Poor Rat

You open a message board and one of the first people you get is Horace. You should have left him on for awhile just for fun.

[LTR]

59. Considered it

But the way I see it, he asked to be banned, and I complied.

He's resourceful enough. He'll find other ways to infiltrate.

[Joanne98]

60. Just checked my e-mail

Got one that said, "faggot Matcom ran away like a leftist cunt". I gave matcom his e-mail yesterday. I wish someone would trace his IP. I know he's funny and all but I HATE the way he refuses to reply to anything except with these same old stupid nothing statements. He really needs his ass beat. He's like a mosquito.

[LTR]

61. Yeah, he certainly wrote the book, didn't he?

[democrat_patriot]

63. Some info on 'it's' IP:

Name: ip68-2-122-236.ph.ph.cox.net
Address: 68.2.122.236


If you have any hate mail from this loser - it's now very simple to contact the FBI. That's a federal crime.

I've already lodged a complaint with Cox communications.

[LTR]

64. I contacted Cox a few months back

Claims he isn't a Cox subscriber.

I even sent them full headers, and some of the 'love letters' he sent.

I may try again.

[Philostopher]

39. He's MrBenchley's biggest fan, too.

Every time a Bob Boudelang article gets posted, Benchley gets death threats from 'AZ Joe' too. Reputedly, he was banned from FR for either indelicate language or making the same kinds of threats on there against high-profile people. Rumguy's had some experience with the *ahem* 'gentleman' in question, also.

He's apparently a DU groupie -- he seems to know what's going on here at any given time more than I do, and I'm on here three or four hours a day most days.

[Joanne98]

43. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA

He hates Mr. Boudelang? He is Mr. Boudelang. oh that's funny. he is a DU groupie. He loves us. he was reading this thread today and e-mailed me, "Tell Matcom blah blah blah.......:)

[Philostopher]

46. Here are some archived Lounge threads

that are some of the most entertaining I've seen on DU since I signed on in 2001:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x630239
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x579438
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x591148

The threads are long, but man, some of that stuff is funny.

[Joanne98]

50. Az Joe is sooooooo wierd

Sometimes I think he's a computer program designed by the goverment to torture leftist. I really have tried to break thru the "DUmmy/traitor/leftist/yellow/cunt but he never responds. if anybody wants his e-mail pm me. Maybe he just needs alot of attention. hee hee :) I bet you anything he's reading this thread right now.

[Joanne98]

53. I just sent him these threads

I asked him what the fuck was the matter with him anyway. Told him to see a doctor. he won't answer. i wish i knew where he lived. i'd just love to show up at his door in a Jehova witness costume. lol

[LTR]

57. He's been banned several times

Used to be fairly active. I even found pictures of him on the Arizona Free Republic site.

Evidently, he must have gone farther off the deep end, and got banned. He signed up again, and I riled him enough from here that he went off on a profanity-laced tirade and got banned again. You can see that here:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1347389#1350096


He's been booted from many other boards, including RW ones. And he just got kicked off mine.

The guy is pretty certifiable. And he spends more time on DU that I do! Must have serious unresolved anger issues.

[Touchdown]

40. Well, let me try this again.

It seemed to have worked on Netscape at work, but not Safari at home. Does anybody else get that "angelfire" logo?

[matcom]

41. this is/was me

[Touchdown]

45. Oh' yeah! I remember doing Reforger with you guys!

:wave:

What was your border outposts? Mine was India and Romeo, just out of Bad Hersfeld.

[grasswire]

37. hehehe

Horace?

<snicker>

[Joanne98]

44. That's what he says his name is.......

I thought the same thing. I said to him, "Who in the Hell would name a kid Horace?" "No wonder your angry." "I bet your Horace the third aren't you?" He didn't reply......:)

[uhhuh]

47. Time for some Freeper level humor

I'm sure Mr. Gutman will appreciate it.

I believe he was named after being found abandoned on the steps of a hospital.

The poeple who brought him inside found a note attached saying:

This fell out of a horses' ass.

Horse ass seemed inappropriate, so....

( Although the name given would then imply his mother was a prostitute. I guess this guy can't win. So sad.)

[Zomby Woof]

31. AMEN Brother!!!!

When the Bushbots questioned Gore's Vietnam service in 2000 with a chain email, my parents (my Dad being a Nam Vet himself) severed a friendship of 27 years because the stupid fucks who sent it kept pushing the "Gore is a socialist" bullshit. We had no idea they were such freeptards, but that is the way it goes.

My Dad's reply to their email was brilliant. He said, "I have been known to hug the occasional tree myself...". Mentioned his donations to GREENPEACE. LOL! He was a 26-year career Navy enlisted man. Fuckers!

Matcom, the ZombyTroof is, the shit of these fuckers will come to life, and kiss them!

You rock, brother.

[Kukesa]

35. Zomby tells the Zomby TROOF! n/t

[jus_the_facts]

32. Need to make 'em hear it LOUD...RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES!

....tell it like it IS!!! :headbang:

:loveya: :yourock: :loveya:

[Jade Fox]

33. Yeah! Gutless, factless lying about a veteran's service is for....

the lowest of the low.

Thank you, veterans!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

36. My husband

who has two Purple Hearts from Desert Storm feels the same way.

He watched a lot of that shit on TV and just shook his head and said "Damn, good thing I'm not running against bush. They'd just say I didn't EARN those Purple Hearts or some shit. What do you need, video documentation nowdays? This is bullshit."

I got the sense it deeply hurt and angered him. Then he turned to me and said, "That is lower than low. Veterans tearing down veterans. I never thought I'd see the day."

He won't even talk about the swift boat slimies now. Refuses to.

[vetwife]

42. I sent those pics to Helen Thomas and today on one of the

morning shows they mentioned Alachua county and Swifties being in on it together. Suprisingly so did Bill Sneider on CNN. They wanted a fight..Well they got one ! Send the pictures out everywhee of the GOP and Swifites rally in Alacua County, Florida.....EVERYWHERE.....
Tell the koolaid drinkers to deny it !

[robo]

49. Viet Nam vet here

they are low life if they say one thing about a vet. What they have done is put down any vet by saying what they did , everybody who is a vet will have people looking at them and saying did he really do that or is it just a lie , did he hold his ground under fire or did he run, was his metals earned or where they just a bunch of bull.Any vet who said anything about a vet after the war a low life a**hole.
4/067 to 4/68

[Joanne98]

51. Welcome to DU

:)

[Matilda]

55. Prhaps you can explain to me how it is decided who gets a medal.

I would have thought the officer in charge would record what happens
in any action, and would recommend who should get an award. And if
it wasn't justified at all, surely the other soldiers would have
something to say about it? So if Kerry hadn't earned his bravery
awards, there'd have to be a whole lot of people lying - and why
would they do that?

I just can't understand how even the right-wing press could be so
idiotic as to even bother to print this stuff.

[Joanne98]

52. Where is MATCOM?????????

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
keep this threaded kicked please

[NewYorkerfromMass]

62. Awesome post matcom!

Your visits to the "political arena" are much appreciated!