Thank you Los Angeles Times!

[troublemaker]

...But what does Bush's acquiescence in the use of this issue say about whether he has the simple decency for the job of president?

...In both cases, the candidates are the reason the groups are in business. There is an important difference, though, between the side campaign being run for Kerry and the one for Bush. The pro-Kerry campaign is nasty and personal. The pro-Bush campaign is nasty, personal and false.

No informed person can seriously believe that Kerry fabricated evidence to win his military medals in Vietnam. His main accuser has been exposed as having said the opposite at the time, 35 years ago. Kerry is backed by almost all those who witnessed the events in question, as well as by documentation. His accusers have no evidence except their own dubious word.

Not limited by the conventions of our colleagues in the newsroom, we can say it outright: These charges against John Kerry are false. Or at least, there is no good evidence that they are true. George Bush, if he were a man of principle, would say the same thing.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-swiftpress24aug24,1,3137952.story?coll=la-home-headlines

[WilliamPitt]

1. An important paragraph for some here

At the moment, Kerry is being punished by the media for taking advice (b) and failing to take advice (a). There was plenty of talk on TV about what Kerry's failure to strike back said about whether he had the backbone for the job of president — and even when he did strike back, he was accused of not doing it soon enough. But what does Bush's acquiescence in the use of this issue say about whether he has the simple decency for the job of president?

[Old and In the Way]

4. Yes, the money line bears repeating-

But what does Bush's acquiescence in the use of this issue say about whether he has the simple decency for the job of president?

Sounds like a truthout column that you could build around this sentence Will!

[WilliamPitt]

8. Already done

Check the sig link.

[Old and In the Way]

11. Man, words are a dangerous weapon in your hands.

Well done...again.

Yes, I see the line-

"How many medals did George W. Bush earn to allow him to make this frontal assault upon those who served in his stead a generation ago, and those who serve now in the free-fire zone he placed them in with his deceptions?"

I suspect that this will be the beachhead Kerry turns into tomorrow.

[TA]

13. Thanks Will - Thats a great "Truthout" article

In all my debates and arguments with repugs the one point I make that they cannot counter or make an excuse for is "Why did Bush stop hunting down OBL and attack Iraq?" Every one of them has had to agree that Bush was wrong to do so.

[Old and In the Way]

2. SS Swiftliars is in big trouble.

Bilgepumps have quit and water's overflowing the gunnels. The remaining Swifties must be bailing like crazy.

[amber dog democrat]

5. Theyre Dead in the Water-taking water - no watertight integrity

listing heavily. An easy target for press batteries. Eventually they will be abandoning ship, I say take no prisoners.

[Guaranteed]

17. Shoot em down like dogs...

and when we run out of bullets we keel-haul the rest of em. :)

[Cha]

3. I like this ...

" The pro-Kerry campaign is nasty and personal. The pro-Bush campaign is nasty, personal and false."

The truth is "nasty and personal" when it comes to bush.

[amber dog democrat]

6. personally, I find the Chimp

nasty & false.

[Skittles]

12. I don't understand that either

how is pointing out that Bush went AWOL (which is TRUE) "nasty and personal"??? IT'S A G.D. FACT.

[troublemaker]

7. I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness...

"Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness," erupted Joseph Welch, a Boston attorney representing the Army, as he lit into McCarthy. The watching world gasped. No one talked that way to "Tailgunner Joe."

But Welch had been interrupted during his cross-examination of Roy Cohn, a key McCarthy aide. Butting in, McCarthy had accused Welch of trying to "foist on the committee" a young attorney from his own law firm who had communist ties -- or so McCarthy said.

Welch was near tears of righteous outrage at McCarthy's attack.

"Let us not assassinate this lad further, senator," said Welch, about to earn himself entry in Bartlett's Familiar Quotations: "Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:1wn_OQfVIMwJ:www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/09/tv.mccarthys.50th.ap/+long+last+have+you+no+decency&hl=en

[TA]

9. This LA Times article and Kerry's speech tomorrow

Should be a one - two punch. Things are looking so much brighter.

[iwantmycountryback]

14. Where is Kerry giving a speech?

I know he's going to be on the Daily Show.

[TA]

15. It will be in NYC but I don't know at what time.

[JSJ]

10. a dependably good paper n/t

[Placebo]

16. Could anyone copy/paste the article, I don't want to register.

:loveya: Please. :pals:

[Seabiscuit]

18. George Bush, if he were a man of principle?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!