2 reasons the "Laura Bush = prostitute" idea is a poor one,

[ulysses]

simply speaking electorally. Others have already addressed the sexism.

1. You put the burden of proof on yourself, and if the proof isn't there, *you* smear *yourself* in front of a public not interested in nuanced ploys that point out your opponent's hypocrisy.

2. It isn't usually a great idea to alienate a huge chunk of your most loyal voters.

I'm all in favor of beating the fuckers at their own game, but there are better, smarter ways.

[Supply Side Jesus]

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[gardenista]

13. not funny....not funny.....not funny....

sorry, no time for cut & paste fun

[Name removed]

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[ulysses]

22. oh please.

A large number of good people on your side are offended by all this. Why make it about their sense of humor?

Were it factual, you might have a slim point to make about Republican moralism and hypocrisy. It isn't and you don't.

[gardenista]

25. Now *that's* the funniest thing I've heard all day!

True comedians (yeah, I actually got paid for it!) know that if half the people aren't laughing at their jokes, the material needs work.

Like I said before. Good idea to do a satire on SwiftVet accusations. Bad material.

Take it back to the drawing board and you might come up with something useful and funny.

[Supply Side Jesus]

30. you the Humor Police?

you the end all be all judge of humor??

There is also an old saying that goes, if you don't like it, dont read/watch it.

[gardenista]

33. Nope. I just know what *I* think is funny. And this isn't.

Like I said, good premise. Poor content and delivery.

[swag]

2. HOW CAN I GET A MESSAGE TO THE KERRY CAMPAIGN NOW!

THE LAURA BUSH = PROSTITUTE IDEA IS A POOR ONE!

THE CAMPAIGN IS FUCKING UP BIG TIME!

OH, MY GOD, OH MY GOD, OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH MY GOD!

[troublemaker]

7. Thank you. That was, for whatever reason, the hardest I've laughed today

[swag]

9. oh, you're welcome. anyway, thank yourself. you started it.

[LoZoccolo]

44. Ha ha ha ha!

:thumbsup:

[Inland]

3. I agree.Don't refer to her prostitution or any of her other felonies

[Inland]

6. Geez, its a joke. A joke. She never did any of these things.

[troublemaker]

4. If it was an ACTUAL smear it would be on TV (almost by definition)

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

5. I agree

Laura Bush should not be a target. Her idiot husband? Now that's a different story. People should remenber the ass whipping Rush Limpblob took for targeting Chelsea Clinton.

[troublemaker]

8. Who is she a traget of?

[w13rd0]

23. Her husband, Mr. Bush, has been a prostitute...

...for YEARS now. Sometimes, he even does it right in front of her. Sometimes, he has Karl do the reach around, while he deposits the checks...

[Jacobin]

10. Some people say she is?

What's wrong with making outrageous claims. The bible thumping republicans do it day in and day out? And they are, of course, righteous.

Anyway, according to republicans, the burden of proof is on Laura to PROVE she is not and has not been a prostitute.

I think she should go on national TV and explain herself. She can spin it any way she wants.

[Malva Zebrina]

11. I agree, Laura Bush should not be a target

all she is doing is going about the country on our money raising ten million dollars and more, for her killer husband and promoting his fascist ideas.

Let us please bow down, be above the fray, for we must in our righteousness not lower ourselves to the freeper level, and excuse or even praise, while villifying and eating our own Democrats who point it out, the kind, innocent and vulnerable Laura Bush for doing this and for promoting causes that are killing us.

Yes, Laura Bush is not to be approached or criticized or made fun of.

We must assume the high ground of saints who look down upon others, including Democrats, who would utter a bad word against the beautiful and the banal Laura Bush.

We simply must sit back and allow her to campaign and lie for her husband because that is the role of the less than and subservient woman and they should not be assailed for doing that.

Yup

[bobbyboucher]

12. Nice kick.

If some here will allow it, it will go away.

[ulysses]

17. sorry, but it's a topic of conversation. n/t

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

14. To all the people saying it was a joke including the one who started it

and is so proud of his alleged humor...this shit ends up on conservative sites all the time as did the Reagan threads...some of it making its way to sites that ARE considered mainstream such as the Wall Street Journal (it's happened before) and all it does is DAMAGE us. It's not as though anyone could EASILY read through the thread and get it is a joke. It was not smart and it was not funny.

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[sniffa]

15. i knew Laura was a kiLLer (and probabLy a Lush)

but not a prostitute!? time to get this going through emaiL.

[snyder]

16. No One Would Believe ...

... that people would pay for an hour with Laura Bush. :)

[Raven]

18. THIS NEEDS TO STOP NOW!

I have seen these Laura Bush threads...it's not funny...it is disgusting. And the people who say "well they do it" are imbecils. The Moderators should start locking these threads...if they don't, and if people here don't start acting decently, like adults ...I'm going to rethink my involvement with DU and I may be ashamed that I ever posted here.

[troublemaker]

24. Oh no! You are rethinking your comitment to DU? Gasp...

LOL. Love that drama.

[Raven]

31. You may go

Cheney yourself. :-) And maybe you'll find yourself all alone here with a bunch of nutcakes who enjoy smearing people...that might be a nice outcome for you. Enjoy!

[Malva Zebrina]

35. So sayeth Zarusthra,.keeper of the thread

There is a very nice little feature that DU provides and I make use of it often with certain posters whose threads are so egotistic and bloviating and manipulative it impossible for me to bear--it removes the temptation to tell them off. More people should make use of that feature instead of assuming the holier than thou attitude and attempting to control the thread. Click "hide thread" and it is gone and one can continue posting their views in happiness

[snyder]

29. You know what?

You're right. The mods should blast this thread to smithereens.

[gollygee]

20. The biggest reason it isn't a good idea is that it isn't funny

[troublemaker]

26. You have no idea what's funny. Sad but true. Experts agree.

[ulysses]

28. I've thought well

of some of your posts in the past, if memory serves and not that you care. Could be a good idea to take a powder about now. As I say, not that you care.

[troublemaker]

32. Is it better to be shouted down by a mob drunk on their shared ignorance?

Have you seen the dynamic in action?

This has become an excercise in intimidation by a hardcore clique of ****, and I don't see any reason to knuckle under to them (until dinner is ready)

I don't abuse these **** for their moronic posts. I don't try to impose speech codes, or tell people that the point of view is worthless because of their gender or ethnic background.

[Cuban_Liberal]

34. "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen"

No one is intimidating you, my friend. They simply see your post as the DU equivalent of the RW slimefest that it is, and say so. Don't like it? Tough! Maybe next time you'lll remember that, before you post such garbage again.

[gardenista]

36. **** Unite! Shout down adolescent attempts at humor!

Start right here!

1. Post moronic retorts to unbelievably creative and original satire.

2. Join hardcore clique and win adoration and prizes!

3. Impose speech codes wherever possible for even more points and prizes!

4. Wherever possible, tell others their pov is worthless because of their gender or backgroud, even if you don't know what the hell it is!

Ready? Let's Play!

**** Founding member

[ulysses]

38. "****"?

Please, do unpack that a bit.

And yes, I've seen mobs on DU. This ain't them.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

47. Ahhh so when challenged on your fallacious strategy which you then

backpedal and parade as humor, you then hawk out ad hominems toward those that take you to task and pretend they are "ganging up" on you? Not very thick skinned, IMHO.


Oh and by the way...imposing on you with REASON is not imposing speech codes...you are free to post whatever you wish within the rules and I am free to take you to task for it...that's what debate is all about.
Since when is your right to free speech more valid than mine? Ain't it grand?

[gollygee]

37. I recognize when something is funny

And I recognize when something is immature and sophmoric. This rose only slightly above the level of a fart joke.

[Malva Zebrina]

39. which I have seen here, over time, from those who would

attempt to control threads and their content because it does not fit their idea of what it "should" be.

[gardenista]

40. Hey! Are you disparaging fart jokes?

Watch Blazing Saddles tonight and get back to me on whether this is above the level of a fart joke.

[Malva Zebrina]

41. Love that movie and so does the hubby

we have watched it every time it is on and it is still funny.

[gardenista]

42. A classic. Unlike the Laura threads. nt

[Malva Zebrina]

46. Larua deserves it

she is complicit in the crimes of her husband.
she shills for him every day on our money.
she raises ten millions dollars by her appearances before the neo conservatives and their cause, so that he can continue his death and destruction. She is a whore for fascism.
she had done nothing at all for the people of this country and has travelled about the world on our money while giving nothing back but her whoring for the fascist cause of her husband .

[gardenista]

49. Pull my finger! nt

[jonnyblitz]

43. it's all subjective.

I didnt find the Laura threads amusing OR offensive (in the context of satire, as unfunny as it might have been)and agree with you about the fart joke thing BUT I will be damned if i will tell everybody else what is funny and what isnt and deem my opinion as fact.

[gollygee]

45. I was just stating my opinon

I'm not God or anything. I'm not even on the Supreme Court.

:bounce:

[jonnyblitz]

48. as i was stating mine.

:) thats all they are..is opinions. I am not trying to shut anybody up though..