Straight from the horse's ass - re: SS

[JPJones]

"If you're a younger worker, you better listen very carefully to the presidential debates on Social Security," Bush told the crowd of 10,000 at WesBanco Arena. "The fiscal solvency of Social Security is in doubt for the young workers coming up. Therefore, I think young workers ought to be able to own a personal retirement account, a personal savings account, in order for Social Security to work."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44863-2004Aug29.html

Let's not fix the system, let's destroy it!

My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years," Grover Norquist says, "to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

[iconoclastic cat]

1. Did he actually say that "bathtub" thing?

[JPJones]

3. No Grover Norquist, Repub strategist n/t

[iconoclastic cat]

8. That's still a tasteless thing to say,

considering the whole Andrea Yates tragedy. What sick bastards do we have running this place? Sweet freakin' jeebus.

[Dogmudgeon]

2. That's an old, old song

The first time I heard that Social Security was doomed was about 1972. They said that by 1987 or so, it would be bankrupt.

Every couple of years, some new right-wing "think" tank releases a report about how Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme, a fraud, due to collapse, etc. It's all nonsense. It would take a collapse of the USA's financial system to hurt Social Security.

On the other hand, a collapse of the USA's financial system in the wake of an energy crisis is a believable threat.

--bkl

[girl gone mad]

7. Why don't we..

go after the Republicans with a video montage of all of the times they've said this stuff?

[miss_kitty]

4. wow...the last time the gov't was as LARGEas it is today,

george hw bush was president...joe wilson said in a talk here in seattle in june

[BeatleBoot]

5. Great line mademoiselle

Big government Republicans talking the opposite.

There is what George W. Bush says...
And there is what George W. Bush does...

[miss_kitty]

9. merci, here's a link to a vid of the talk

http://www2.cityofseattle.net/media/DispVideoList_SC.asp?CatID=62

Foolproof Presents: American Voices Lecture Series: (with Ambassador Joseph Wilson)-it'll be up another month or so....no wonder they outed his wife as a CIA op...this guy is GREAT!

[Kimber Scott]

6. The whole strategy is to break the bank so we can't afford SS.

nt