The Real ’08 Fight: Clinton v. Palin?

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Source: The New York Times

ST. PAUL — The names at the top of the ballot on Nov. 4 will be McCain and Obama, but the juicier battle this fall for an important group of swing voters — white working women with children — may be fought between the other two stars of the Republican and Democratic conventions, Sarah Palin and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Ms. Palin, the governor of Alaska and Mr. McCain’s running mate, gave the best speech of her party’s convention on Wednesday night, drawing 37 million television viewers. And she made it clear that she aimed to win over undecided women voters with her own version of the history-making, “I’m one of you” message that Mrs. Clinton employed to great effect in her fight for the Democratic nomination.

Mrs. Clinton, meanwhile, has a legacy to protect: She has no intention of turning over her “18 million cracks in the glass ceiling,” as she called her supporters, to Ms. Palin, a social conservative whose policy positions are poison in Hillaryland. What is more, Mrs. Clinton wants to be the one to make history as the first woman to win at the top of a presidential ticket, be it in 2012 or 2016.

The question is, will Mrs. Clinton fight Ms. Palin to help her former rival, Mr. Obama? Clinton advisers say that Mrs. Clinton wants to do everything she can to elect Mr. Obama, so that she cannot be blamed if he loses — yet she also does not want to be too closely associated with him if he does lose, nor to tarnish her own image by taking on a rookie national politician like Ms. Palin and possibly coming up short.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/us/politics/06web-healy.html

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[msongs]

1. Palin should be ignored IMO - she is a distraction to main cause nt

[Amerigo Vespucci]

4. It's the shiny object principle...

...now that the RNC is behind us, she will become increasingly less shiny as the days go by.

What's happened in the last week or two had to happen. It's human nature. When you get right down to it, we're still at war in Iraq in Afghanistan. The economy still sucks. Mistress Moose Killer will run out of chest-thumping bravado right around the time that the average American working man and woman remembers that they are in pain, and that slogans and French pedicures in open-toed shoes won't put food on the table.

[DesertFlower]

8. hey. i've got a french pedicure,

but i wear birkenstocks.

[TheDebbieDee]

2. Go Hillary! Show that Gidget is the empty-headed vessel

that she is!

[Critters2]

3. Hillary has something Caribou Barbie will never have.

A brain!

[DesertFlower]

5. the only thing that connects these 2 women

is their gender. their political views are polar opposites.

[Turner Ashby]

6. Is she not wearing stockings?

LOL. Sorry. My little brain got distracted.

C'mon Hillary. Get back in the game. I'd like to be proud of a woman. (I am a woman, don't be fooled by the name)

[DesertFlower]

7. i'm a woman too.

i think hillary will be campaigning in florida next week.

[Jakes Progress]

9. We should not fall for this media bait.

They would love to see the next 8 weeks be about nothing more than two women fussing at each other. They would turn any logical, classy, defining argument that Hillary had into little cat fight sound bites. The Democrats need to have Hillary ignoring and even calling out media attempts to generate this kind of trash.

Democrats should send a man with no personality but with much information and press savvy to combat the palin lies. We don't want the idiots of the nations thinking only about personalities and ignoring issues. On any issue you name, republicans lose. That is why the right wing media (a redundant phrase) is looking for this kind of ratings whopper.

For once let's not jump when the patella tappers strike.

[debbierlus]

10. They can dream on - Hillary stated she WON'T go after her

She is set on McCain.

The media SO wants to make this about Palin. About Hillary. About ANYTHING but the issues and McCain.

Ain't gonna happen.

They have shown their strategy. It is to IGNORE her. And, McCain is forbidding media interviews, so she won't be able to keep generating buzz.

[lisainmilo]

18. u may have something there....on the other hand

I was at work tonight and I heard an woman praising both McCain and Palin, of course I had to get my 2 cents in!

[lib2DaBone]

11. How great is that.... Hillary Vs Palin ... Cage Fight.....

You gotta admit.. Hillary would kick some serious A_ _ .

[lib2DaBone]

12. Hillary would wipe that Fundie Smile Off Her Face......

[atjrpsych]

13. Hillary is an incredible woman, its not just an issue of gender!

Honestly, Hillary and Plain are nothing a like. I think the only thing they have in common is their gender and I am shocked that anyone's decision would be so primitive to be swayed by the sex of the vice-presidential candidate . Actually I think it is actually amusing that Plain thinks she can appeal to Hillary voters by claiming "she is just like them." Plain can BS with lip-service, but a true hero would devote their time to her disabled child rather than think about her own advancement.

[mudderfudder77]

17. Thats crap.

Thats ridiculous. Her husband will have plenty of time to devote to their disabled child, and they will have access to the best teachers and physicians if they make it to the White House.

[Skink]

14. Instead of slinging mud they could wrestle in it.

[NeoConsSuck]

15. It's a no-contest

Hillary is a seasoned veteran. She has campaigned across the nation, in both friendly and not so friendly turfs. She can more than hold her own.

Palin, on the other hand, is going to find out very quickly most people don't share her ultra right wing wacko views. What dazzles them in Alaska, or in the puke convention, is not going to go over big in most of her campaign stops. She says she's tough. We'll see :)

[nam78_two]

16. This comparison disgusts me

As a very liberal Democrat, I have had problems with some of Senator Clinton's more hawkish policies and decisions myself, but Palin isn't fit to wipe her shoes. This comparison is nauseating :puke:. They are both women-the similarities end there and almost all of Palin's views are largely antithetical to feminism and liberalism. Senator Clinton is a very accomplished and intelligent woman -to compare her to this creationist, anti-environmental, anti-gay, anti-choice bigoted moron strikes me as bizarre to say the least.

Any Hillary supporter who is too stupid to see this is the type of person that deserves a Palin presidency-unfortunately these idiots would take the rest of us along with them into the toilet.

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