*****One of the Official Debate Threads***** it even has stars!

[Ichingcarpenter]

[NYC_SKP]

1. STARS???!!!!!!!111 Then it's official, it's the official thread.

Who else thinks Michelle looks fantastic?

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. Even more stars than the official one. I'm watching on CSPAN... here we go!!

She looks great!

[Xipe Totec]

2. It's not official otherwise

good job!

[gateley]

3. Honored to be here. nt

[gateley]

4. Rec it, you guys -- don't want any interlopers claiming their own "official" thread.

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. Jim Lehrer looks old ..... I don't get PBS here

First question on Eisenhower.

[AldebTX]

6. I Like Stars

Obama is one of em

[paparush]

8. No clapping..no noise of any kind. Lehrer - Captain Fun Time

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. First Question on the Recovery Plan..... Obama first ...Looking good

and sounding good.

[NYC_SKP]

10. I'll rec it. I'll rec it "MUST READ"!

:bounce:

[Ichingcarpenter]

Thanks....McCain is looking at NOTES?

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. He's going over his plan...... McCain didn't have one this will be interesting

first blow on McCain............

[AlCzervik]

12. Mccain looks like shit, he just does. Grumpy old man moment in 3-2-1

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. Weak........ answer by McCain.........this is gonna be good.

[Captain Lance Bass]

Jmac is worried about kennedy

sure he is

[gateley]

19. I must be be on a delay (cnN) And Kennedy's home from the hospital, johnny

[Amerigo Vespucci]

13. A final verdict on 8 years of failed economic policies from Bush, supported by McCain

:patriot:

[Amerigo Vespucci]

24. This isn't the beginning of the end of this crisis, it is the end of the beginning

HUH?

:rofl:

[VWolf]

14. His first lie

Ted Kennedy is not in the hospital anymore

[Xipe Totec]

15. Oh, God, McCain mentions Teddy Kennedy

How dare he!

[K8-EEE]

22. The Freeps won't like the "lion" thing...

LOL, they hate Kennedy like poison & don't think of him as the "Lion of the Senate!"

[AlCzervik]

16. "Credits" wtf are they?

[AldebTX]

17. I Do Note Tho

Neither are going to tell us their position on the plan.

[Popol Vuh]

18. Did McStupid just insinuate its our fault?

OMFG.. What an ass.

[nc4bo]

20. Mccain is nervous. Hope O stays nice and cool. nt

[Willo]

21. "This is the end of the beginning" ???

[vanboggie]

25. Terra!! Terra!! n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

Drill... Drill.... Drill.... McCain sounds weak

[AldebTX]

26. I Thought McCain Looked Weak

But the Independents on CNN rated him higher then the Repugs.

[Ichingcarpenter]

31. You doing CNN? how is it scoring so far?

Although I don't think its scientific.

[AldebTX]

38. Its not Saying Much

Repugs go gaga over McCain

Dems about the same for Obama

Independents seem to go for both.

[gateley]

27. McCain's answer was pretty good -- all BS, but good answer for the masses.

[K8-EEE]

28. Wow McCain sounds like he's on his last leg

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!

[K8-EEE]

30. How about the resignation of Bush & Cheney????

OMG!!! After he lets them slide for years!

[Mist]

29. McSame mentions responsibility--then goes on to talk about Eisenhower. nt

[goclark]

33. Mc Cain said " Are you saying I can't hear him"

When Obama didn't talk directly to him.

I can not look at McCain

[The Backlash Cometh]

42. If he needs Obama to look at him, it means he has a hearing problem and

needs to see Obama's lips to hear him properly. Common problem among the elderly.

[Ichingcarpenter]

37. He's rambling with 'sound bites ' from his speeches

although Obama is too but with more substance.

[AldebTX]

32. I think McCain is Going to Stick to Generalities

He is going to give his stump speech. It will appeal to the masses.

The talking to John line played into McCain's hand. "Are You afraid I can't hear"

[Amerigo Vespucci]

34. LEHER! STFU, you assclown! Interrupts Obama, yells "SAY IT TO HIM" (McCain)...

:grr:

[Gregorian]

40. That was good! He got to say it twice!

[neverforget]

35. But does it go to 11?

[Ichingcarpenter]

44. 11 Rounds? I see McCain not going the distance n/t

[Mist]

36. McSame complains of regulatory agencies not doing their jobs--but they

were basically PREVENTED from doing their jobs.

[NYC_SKP]

39. First one to address the other candidate gets points! At least from Jim Lehrer.

John McCain will be less likely to maintain his temper and composure if they interact directly with each other, IMO.

I'm glad Lehrer is pushing for that.

[Ichingcarpenter]

This is the type of debate we should have had in the primaries-bathroom break

I'm nervous.

[Mist]

41. O Christ--McSame uses the Rethug meme "we came to change gov't, but

it changed us." Gov't is always the enemy, even, apparently, when one is in that gov't for OVER 20 YEARS.

Oh, a Clinton gesture--"here's a pen I'll veto with."

[LooseWilly]

43. McCain is going to veto EVERY SPENDING BILL??

That's a rather extreme solution to curb government spending...

"Spending on the Pentagon? Veto!..."

[Mist]

45. Well, it's not like he thinks this stuff out. nt

[LooseWilly]

65. the cut spending one trick pony here....

And all defense will need to be based in Alaska, because they can see foreign countries from there...

[Amerigo Vespucci]

46. Obama: Tax cut for 95% of working families, better than Bush policies McCain wants to follow

McCain responds by more pork accusations...

[Amerigo Vespucci]

47. "I WAS CALLED THE SHERRIFF! I DIDN'T WIN MISS CONGENIALITY IN THE SENATE!"

:eyes:

[Ichingcarpenter]

48. Obama is gonna on the offense..... and shut McCain down.. McCain is angry!

[Ichingcarpenter]

50. McCain's voice is shaky and wavering.... He just mentioned the rich thing

[NYC_SKP]

49. First one to address the other candidate gets points! At least from Jim Lehrer.

John McCain will be less likely to maintain his temper and composure if they interact directly with each other, IMO.

I'm glad Lehrer is pushing for that.

[Ichingcarpenter]

52. Obama...... scores on the health care tax!! upper blow to the chin

[Amerigo Vespucci]

51. McCain's secret word for the evening appears to be "pork"

Will not get off of the "$932 million on pork requested by Senator Obama" talking point.

[NYC_SKP]

53. John can't do it, he can't look Barack in the eye. He's scared or being...

...dismissive, but he won't look at or talk to Obama.

And if he starts to, I think he'll turn red and get even angrier.

[Ichingcarpenter]

56. McCain just twisted his ring finger on the Oil tax issue.... McCain is angry!!

[Mist]

54. McSame seems to think we mere citizens can decide on the tax plan. I wish. nt

[nytemare]

55. Thank God he mentioned the invisible tax on health care benefits.

[AldebTX]

57. Why Am I So Nervous

I am so afraid of something being blown....I know Obama is smart...just fearful he might be too smart for the average audience.

[Ichingcarpenter]

59. No stuttering or uhs. from Obama.... McCain is now shaking his head and trembling

[goclark]

60. Delete ~ button to post not working for me

[goclark]

61. My Cable is on Mute ~ Can't stand to hear Grumps voice

My eye is on the computer

[AldebTX]

58. Damn

I want that man (Obama) to be my next president.

[Mist]

62. McSame says "reduce spending." Actually says cost plus contracts

should be done away with. But Gramps, you're a Rethug! You know you don't mean it!

[Ichingcarpenter]

64. Obama needs to nail him on the boeing contract

[Amerigo Vespucci]

63. "Senator Obama has THE most liberal voting record in the Senate...

...it's HARD to reach that far across the aisle...heh heh heh"

:eyes:

[AldebTX]

He Just Laughed Tho

I think he should comment about McCain being THAT far to the right.

[AldebTX]

Glad He Mentioned War Savings

By bringing the war to a close

[n2doc]

71. Another McLame lie! n/t

[NYC_SKP]

66. End the War, that'll save some money! nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

69. Obama said it ..... McCain didn't .. now the back to bailout

[Amerigo Vespucci]

67. McCain wants spending freeze on everything but military, veterans, entitlements

Obama says that's like using a hatchet when you should be using a scalpel. Mentions the Iraq surplus. Gramps is all over the map.

[Canuckistanian]

68. I like yours. I'm staying.

It's not like this debate isn't shooting piscids in a hogshead.

[Mist]

70. Lehrer refers to "ruling" the country. Hey, Jim, "governing" is the politic word. nt

[Mist]

72. McLame uses the old straw man argument that he doesn't think the gov't

should "get into health care." That was never the idea, Gramps. The gov't would handle the paperwork.

[AldebTX]

73. Ok How McCain Got to the "Maverick" Comment

WAS very weak.

[Mist]

74. McLame mentions his maverick-ness, especially re: torture. I thought he caved

on torture? Something of a scandal at the time, as he'd been tortured back when.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

75. Mentions Miss Congeniality again, "We went into Iraq, and everybody celebrated"

:eyes:

[Mist]

76. McSame makes it clear he thinks we can win in Iraq, and start a fledgling democracy. Well,

at least he's honest about that particular delusion. How do you win an occupation again?

[Canuckistanian]

77. He's OBSESSED with "victory" in Iraq

He's reliving his Vietnam days.

Damn commie hippies.

[Ichingcarpenter]

78. I just changed to CNN with the split screen

You can see both candidates during the back and forth.

[Ichingcarpenter]

79. Obama nailed him on Iraq.... McCain is going nuts....and now slurring his words

[AldebTX]

80. It Can Be Distracting

But it does give you a different view on the debate. I find myself yelling at the lines...like WHY aren't you going up/down.

[NYC_SKP]

81. Thx, I've seen MSNBC cut away when John gets twitchy.... nt

[Amerigo Vespucci]

82. "Coming from YOU, when you've sung SONGS about bombing IRAN"...

OH YEAH.