BeyondGeography
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Tue Oct-07-08 10:24 PM
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| Gergen: Too early to declare victory because Barack Obama is black |
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Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:24 PM by BeyondGeography
Cites a Stanford Univ. poll that says his race could cost him 6 points.
What an old scaredy cat Gergen is. Toobin says (and he is correct) that there was no such variance in the primaries.
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Tue Oct-07-08 10:25 PM
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| 1. I'm looking for that one |
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because I just read a long one about the fact there is no Bradley effect anymore. I'll see if I can post both of them.
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Tue Oct-07-08 10:31 PM
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| 6. Here is the Harvard Study |
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Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 10:37 PM by davidpdx
No More Wilder Eect, Never a Whitman Effect: When and Why Polls Mislead about Black and Female Candidates http://people.iq.harvard.edu/~dhopkins/wilder13.pdfWarning: it is 28 pages EDIT: Here's a story about the poll Gergen was talking about: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/show_story.php?id=9375
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Tue Oct-07-08 10:25 PM
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| 2. Democratic primaries are not necessarily representative of a general election |
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That said, I expect the Bradley effect to be countered by the tendency of late-breaking voters to go against party in power.
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Tue Oct-07-08 10:28 PM
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| 5. The Bradley Effect is 26 years old; Harold Ford outperformed the final polls in TN in 2006 |
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The last observable victim of the Bradley Effect was David Dinkins in 1992. Gergen's "fears" will prove to be unfounded.
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Tue Oct-07-08 10:26 PM
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Tue Oct-07-08 10:27 PM
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| 4. And Gergen loses some of my respect right there. nt |
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Tue Oct-07-08 10:33 PM
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| 7. It is a legitimate concern... |
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If it weren't, would they really have Palin down South wearing lily white and whipping her crowds into a racist frenzy with statements like, "I just don't think that our opponent sees America the way we do"?
The Bradley effect has become McCain campaign strategy.
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Tue Oct-07-08 10:33 PM
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| 8. Ron Regan, Air America... yesterday afternoon |
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At least I think that was the program.
He was discussing the 'race factor' with a caller, they were saying that 10% of the people are openly racist and would never vote for a black. Of the remainder, about 6% are not so obvious and if all things can appear equal, they would vote for the white over the black man.
That ties into the 6% but cant recall the person who was stating the numbers or what studies.
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