Do you personally know any Democrats who are voting for Bush?

[sonicx]

Most polls i've read over the past few months have said Kerry's support among dems is below 90, while Bush's support among repubs is usually above 90.

I don't get it. In real life, i've meet 2 'bush democrats', but around 6 repubs that will either vote for Kerry, vote third party, or stay home...

:shrug:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Nope.

But I know plenty of Republicans who have had their gutfull of Chimpy.

[volosong]

2. MANY IN MY TOWN

and I live in Massachusetts. It's appalling how many local Dems are supporting Bush.

[liberalnurse]

4. I'm speechless........

[lancdem]

14. At least you don't live in a swing state

[Kathy in Cambridge]

31. Conservative Dems like Finneran

have policies mor ein line with Repubs than Dems. In Mass, your neighbors votes won't count anyway.

[merbex]

33. I live in Mass also

I meet a lot of Dems that aren't wild about Kerry but

It's ABB for them

[liberalnurse]

3. No....None.....

I doubt I'd be there friend if that were the case. I just have issues I guess.

[oasis]

5. No, not one.

[quinnox]

6. No, I have the same experence in that I know republicans who are

voting for Kerry.

[Onlooker]

7. I know one

She's quite liberal, but mostly apolitical, and she's supporting Bush because she's very afraid of terrorists. She thinks that Bush is protecting her. Many have tried to help her see the error of her ways, but she won't budge.

[sonicx]

9. yes, i've experienced that. dems that are 'afraid of the terrorists'...

:puke:

[Zan_of_Texas]

11. show her this article

Fear of Death Wins Minds and Votes, Study Finds

July 29, 2004
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040729/pl_nm/campaign_fear_dc&cid=615&ncid=1963&sid=96378800

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush may be tapping into solid human psychology when he invokes the Sept. 11 attacks while campaigning for the next election, U.S. researchers said on Thursday. Talking about death can raise people's need for psychological security, the researchers report in studies to be published in the December issue of the journal Psychological Science and the September issue of the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin.

"There are people all over who are claiming every time Bush is in trouble he generates fear by declaring an imminent threat," said Sheldon Solomon of Skidmore College in Saratoga Springs, New York, who worked on the study. "We are saying this is psychologically useful."

Jeff Greenberg, a professor of psychology at the University of Arizona in Tucson, said generating fear was a common tactic. "A lot of leaders gain their appeal by helping people feel they are heroic, particularly in a fight against evil," Greenberg said in a telephone interview from Hawaii, where he presented the findings to a meeting of the American Psychological Association. "Sometimes that may be the right thing to do. But it is a psychological approach, particularly when death is close to peoples' consciousness."

<snip>

The students who thought about death were much more likely to choose the charismatic leader, they found. Only four out of about 100 chose that imaginary leader when thinking about exams, but 30 did after thinking about death. <snip>

[scarletwoman]

19. Ask her if she likes being thought of as a 10 year child.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=796505

Btw, have you tried talking her into seeing Farenheit 9/11? She needs to see "fearless leader's" seven minutes of paralysis in that Florida classroom.

sw

[briang5000]

24. why does she think Kerry would be weak on Terrorism?

Bush was weak on fighting Terrorism until 9/11.

Had Bush listened to the Clinton team upon taking office or had he paid attention to Richard Clarke 9/11 might have been prevented.

Bush was weak on Terror and the number one enemy in the war on terror should be Osama bin Laden...yet he's still a free man.

[Onlooker]

27. It's not based on thought

It's fear, and I suppose Bush, because he's president, is like a father figure who says, "I will protect you." It's irrational in my opinion, but as Michael Moore pointed on in F911, fear is very powerful. It's Bush's aphrodisiac, in a way.

[MuseRider]

8. Nope, not a one.

I do know a few ex Bush* supporters who are trying to decide to vote Kerry or stay home.

[havocmom]

10. Don't even know and Republicans who are voting for the junta

this time around.

[stray cat]

12. No democrats and no independents

nt

[emulatorloo]

13. NO, but some bushies voting Dem this time n/t

[wurzel]

15. No. But I do personally know Republicans who are voting for Kerry.

And none of this "Swiftie liar" crap has had any effect.

[unblock]

16. why, ZELL, of course! (ducks!)

of course, if you delivery the keynote speech at an explicitly partisan republican event, then you're a republican, no matter how many times you deny it.

[Big Kahuna]

17. I personally don't now any REPUBLICANS that are voting for Bush!

Well, except for my Grandmother. She's in her late 80's, and I think our heated political debates keeps her young. )

[betterdeadthanred]

18. I did in 2000

but not this time, in fact just the opposite this go around, I know alot of Republicans that are voting for Kerry, much to my amazement.

[Arugula Latte]

29. Welcome to DU, gretstan!

I'm so glad you saw the light! :hi: :toast:

[betterdeadthanred]

40. LOL! NO, not me!

I DID know some dems that voted in 2000 for Bush, I certainly wasn't one of them. Gawd, barf, puke. I can see how my answer could have taken that meaning though, sorry about that. Thanks for the welcome:)

[bluedonkey]

20. my sister and her hubby

found religion a couple of years ago and now vote republican.
They get a list from their pastor who they should vote for.I kid you not!
Four years ago we were putting sign up for the democrats.sigh

[Arugula Latte]

30. Welcome to DU, mint_julep!

:hi: :toast:

Come to think of it, the only person I know who is likely to switch to Bush is a relative who went "born again" on us. :puke: However, I do know that two Repubs on my street are switching to Kerry (and have the yard signs to prove it). Everybody else I know hates Bush much more than they did in 2000.

[mitchum]

34. Could you ask your sister for a copy of that list?

Could be used as evidence in efforts to to take away that pulpit-dwelling grifter's tax exempt status.

Welcome to DU:)

[0rganism]

43. That's illegal if the church has tax exempt status

Tax-exempt organizations are NOT allowed to promote political candidates. That includes churches. They can do issue advocacy, but no candidate endorsement. And if the pastor is using his church as a venue for his politics, he is the de facto representative of the organization; he cannot hide behind the 1st ammendment.

If their church is still tax-exempt, it might not be for long.

[seabeyond]

21. i DONT know a SINGLE democrat

so i cant answer

[notbush]

22. Yes, I know 1.

An elderly woman, who's always been somewhat of a yellow dog.
I ran into her at the grocery store about a month ago. After exchanging pleasantries she brought up the election.
She asked me if I was disgusted about the way our candidates had treated the President during the primaries. Calling him a "miserable failure", claiming he knew about 911 ahead of time, etc.
She was put off by it and said she was going to vote for Bush.
I tried to back peddle her a little by saying "in the heat of a campaign a lot of things are said and to pick out 3 or 4 statements and vote based on them wasn't the smart thing to do".
She then lit into me, saying if I should be ashamed supporting candidates that hold the office of the President in such low esteem.
I couple of minutes of that, I politely moved on down the isle.
I'm sure there are a few who will cross party lines. I'm not sure how many.

[Nevernose]

23. Yes, one -- I was shocked when I found out

She claims that Kerry is a flipflopper and "there's just something untrustworthy about him. You can't believe anything he says, because he's just saying whatever it takes to get elected. I don't agree with everything George Bush does, but at least he's a stand-up kind of guy."

I finally figured out where this was coming from. She carpools to work in the mornigns with another good friend of mine, an ultra-conservative whacko who believes everything he gets in an email (he stopped forwarding them to me because I picked them apart so easily, but he still believes everything he reads). He's an excellent debater, and I'm sure over the past year or so has just whittled her down.

[NMDemDist2]

45. in canvassing I have found 3 "undecided" dems

they will "wait and see"

I find out what their issues are and then give them Kerry's position

hope it helps.......

[liveoaktx]

25. Nope, everyone I know who voted for Gore OR Nader is voting Kerry

NOBODY IS VOTING FOR THE CHIMP (except, of course, the Pub guy at work who has an autographed photo of Bush and his family with smooch marks on it.

[Yupster]

26. Down here

thre are many Democrats who are voting for Bush, but they haven't voted for a Democratic presidential nominee since Carter in 76. They just don't change their registration so they can vote for sheriff and county commissioner.

That's why the 10 % every election doesn't surprise me.

[sampsonblk]

28. Nope, not one. But zero enthusiasm for Kerry also

Most of the Dems I know are voting for Kerry. But not a one of them has voiced any enthusiasm, and I hear a lot of discontent. Its all ABB with the people I associate with. I don't personally know a single person who is actually FOR Kerry.

[betterdeadthanred]

42. I can understand that

I was ABB till I saw Kerry's acceptance speech? That turned it for me, Kerry really impressed me there and I felt much better about him. Enough to start donating time and money anyway.

[Dob Bole]

32. I think that's backwards. Zogby said...

that only 89% of people who voted for Bush last time were planning on doing it again, versus 95% of Gore voters for Kerry. His reasoning was that if Bush can't get those numbers back up to 95%, he'll lose.

Can't remember where I read this, maybe Slate.

[gollygee]

35. Nope. n/t

[canuckybee]

36. Nope, but I do know

republicans who are switching to Kerry. And when I asked what they would say if they were polled they said they would lie and claim they were voting for Bush. Some people are still afraid of being labeled unpatriotic if they are vocal about support for anyone but Bush.

[Piperay]

37. No, not personally

I hear rumors of it and see some interviewed by the media but I think it is mostly a myth. :shrug:

[shivaji]

38. Yeah, I know atleast ONE...his name is...

Zig Zag Zell Miller.

[jackieforthedems]

39. Nope

I don't know any who've had lobotomies.

[sadiesworld]

41. None.

Dems and swings voting for Kerry, new voters for Kerry, some repugs voting for Kerry (and more repugs voting for *)...but no dems for *.

Kerry bumperstickers on the uptick, quite a few more K/E yardsigns than B/C.

Purple city in a red state.

[Maddy McCall]

44. None

[LTR]

46. Nope

The only people I know of who are voting for Bush are Republicans already and they'd vote for Satan if he were their nominee.

Most of the independents I know are voting Kerry, are still undecided, or don't really give a shit (I'm working on them). All the left-leaning people I know are solidly Kerry. No Naderites that I know of.

So far, most people I know are voting Kerry if at all. And I'll drag them kicking and screaming to the polls if need be.

[formernaderite]

47. I know some guys from a bar I frequent.....

....they're union and dems...but like Bush again. They didn't for a while but now they're back on his bus. The only good thing, is they don't necessarily ever show up and vote. The same goes for republican blue collar guys I know....they don't actually vote. Maybe not too strange as we live in a dem solid state, and they probably view it as a lost cause.

[RetroLounge]

48. Nope

and if there are any, they are Dem like Zell is Dem.

RL

[Rich Hunt]

49. No way!

But I know a number of republicans who are voting 3rd party or who are not voting.

I guess it depends on where you live. Bush is a joke around these parts.