The opening CNN segment - Walter Rogers from Iraq - was as damning

[NRaleighLiberal]

a critique on what * dragged us needlessly into as any I've seen. What Aaron Brown SHOULD have said - and I think would have said if the shoe was on the other foot - was some editorializing about how this was a dark mark against *. another example of media being more than willing to mislead the public to support *, but not being at all willing to lead the public into opinions supporting Kerry. However - for anyone with half a brain, the Iraq report said it all - the mess we are in, and why we will NOT be able to win.....with civil war in the future, not a free, democratic Iraq.

How * can continue to spin Iraq and the economy in the face of the actual facts is a complete edict on the gullibility and stupidity of half of America, and a sad commentary on the media for supporting our idiot president no matter what he says or does.

[greekspeak]

1. It is easy to spin whatever you want

when people's news sources are as tainted as sewer water.

[newsguyatl]

2. walter rodgers

is an award winning journalist. cnn's chief international correspondent. one of the best.

[DeepModem Mom]

3. A glimpse of CNN International -- damning proof of CNN domestic's...

determination to spin U.S. viewers in favor of the Bush administration. Internationally, for viewers around the world, CNN is still a first-class news organization. Walter Rodgers is frequently on screen. Domestically, it is something very different.

[Flubadubya]

5. How can one subscribe to CNN Interntational?

I've seen you mention it a number of times. I have a C-band satellite and had hoped I could get it, but it must be a digital channel. My cable company certainly doesn't carry it.

[DeepModem Mom]

6. So sorry I don't know (I 'm out of U.S. a good bit) -- others on DU...

I believe, have said that they see it domestically. I hope someone will answer your question, because I'd like to watch it in the U.S. myself.

[Flubadubya]

7. Thanks for the reply DMM...

I have not heard of anyone here being able to access it, which is a crying shame. I specifically checked with several satellite programming providers and I have not found it available.

It's just amazing that the supposedly same parent company can provide one set of news for the "outside world" and an entirely different one for American consumers.

It's actually bewildering, and certainly frightening to think how strongly our press is controlled by "the powers that be" who don't want us to know the truth. Enough to make a reasonable person paranoid!

[htuttle]

8. CNNI plays in the same markets as BBC and al Jazeera

If they stuck to the same pablum they show in the states, nobody would bother watching it. Since they have to compete with real journalism overseas, they have to actually practice it there (to an extent).

(We have CNNI on Charter digital cable up around channel 120 or so).

[henslee]

4. The cadence of his voice as he spoke the plain truth was powerful.

[npincus]

9. heard a journalist last nite say "iraq was moving toward civil war"

... sorry, brain fried and don't remember who, but it was a local network broadcast (not cable)... I live in New Jersey.

[cthrumatrix]

13. I heard that as well ... american familes NEED to know this when

they are asked about Iraq policy

[leftchick]

10. Mr. Rogers seemed visibly upset as well....

Too bad it was snuck in for late night viewers. His reports earlier in the day did not allow for his excellent personal analysis. I caught CCNI in Europe last year. It is as different from CNN as night and day!

[KharmaTrain]

11. The Patrioit Meme Still Lives

Attack the invasion, attack this regime and you are still "UnAmerican"...especially if you're in the media. No one wants to be "Peter Arnetted" by getting this regime upset, so the war reporting is tepid at best. It's as though a bad report from the war somehow doesn't serve the truth but undercuts our support of "the war" and the troops. It's a trick bag that this regime uses mightily.

Unfortunately, not enough people are feeling this war yet, and there are still plenty of sheeple who are into the 9/11 = Iraq lie. Those who report against the war...especially on an American media outlet, do so at their own peril.

[Supersedeas]

12. TV Media running cover for * in Iraq and on the AWOL Issue-*s untouchable

[dennis4868]

14. TDS put it best.....

Bush does not let the facts get in the way of his WORDS....hahaha

[Neecy]

15. hmmm

Rogers was one of CNN's embedded journalists during the initial part of the war, and he sickened me. Gung-ho, rah-rah, etc.

In the last few months, he's really done a turnaround, possibly because he's seen first hand the many screw-ups caused by the utter lack of post-war planning. He's not afraid to let 'er rip now.

I'm sure CNN will can him ASAP.

[cthrumatrix]

16. kick for truth