Now the fucking POPE has his say.

[cliffordu]

I guess pedophiles are alright, gay people not so much.

Pedophiles can get married.

And have children.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1100422/Saving-humanity-gays-like-saving-rainforest-destruction-says-Pope.html#comments

[scheming daemons]

1. Well.. the pope certainly knows what he's talking about when it comes to pedophiles...

Considering he has so many working for him.

[alwysdrunk]

2. This Pope is going to severly damage the RCC

If he lives long enough and keeps up with shit like this.


I hope he lives to 100 and takes it up a notch.

[adoraz]

10. This post makes you just as bad as the current pope, then

"I hope he lives to 100 and takes it up a notch."

[alwysdrunk]

20. Maybe I'm worse

I don't like the fact that religious leaders have so much influence in the world. The head of the Roman Catholic Church has the most influence out of all of them.

[adoraz]

26. I agree, and I'm no fan of the current Pope

but why would you want someone like him to continue having so much influence, anyways? unless you really hate Catholics, or whatever.....

[alwysdrunk]

30. I don't want him to have influence

I think statements like this over time will weaken his support and weaken his influence. I don't hate Catholics, not at all.

[adoraz]

37. well this sounds hypocritical to your original post, then.

From your original post, it sounded like you wanted him to stay in power as long as possible so the Catholic Church would suffer.

I myself want him out ASAP. I feel he is really polarizing and if this keeps up too long, then, like you said, the Catholic religion as a whole will suffer.

The Pope will ALWAYS have amazing influence, no matter what, and it would be far better for the entire World to have a different one. I don't believe a new one could be much worse than him. There are 1,000,000,000 Catholics worldwide, and I think most of us want someone new to represent our religion.

[SuperTrouper]

3. I am Catholic and Catholic dogma taught us in Papal Infallibility BUT

the Pope is WRONG and specifically this Pope, he is ultra-conservative and is only expressing the views of the Opus Dei and the Conservative movement in the Catholic church that has been proven time and again to be fundamentally antiquated and out of touch. To me, Benedict XVI's edict is irrelevant in this issue.

[Posteritatis]

7. Was the statement ex cathedra?

Infallibility doesn't apply to every word the guy says, though if he pulled this stunt in that form that would be a bit of a mess to say the least.

[cliffordu]

12. I dunno what ex cathedra means....

[Posteritatis]

29. An official final statement on doctrinal matters, usually

As much as people like to latch onto wacky misinterpretations of what the term implies, it's only been used once in the twentieth century and maybe a half-dozen times (retroactively defined) in the entirety of church history.

[cliffordu]

32. Jesus. That's it, huh?

what a putz.

[Posteritatis]

38. Yep; 449, 680, 1336, 1653, 1794, 1854 and 1950

The concept was coined around 1870, so it's pretty much only been 'officially' done once.

[cliffordu]

39. I STILL cannot believe ANY church would pull shit like most all of them are pulling

over gay marriage.


If Jesus does come back, it's nice to know there will be folks going to hell before me.

[Teaser]

16. The pope is only infallible in ex cathedra pronouncements

I don't know that this qualifies or not, as I lost interest in the story halfway through.

[SuperTrouper]

19. LOL!! Ex-catedra, can he ex-communicate us?

[Teaser]

21. yes.

.

[11 Bravo]

4. And diddle altar boys.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

5. This is why inviting Rick Warren was such a bad deal. Those who hate

gay/lesbians now have a license to come out of the woodwork proclaiming victory for their side.

Again appeasing these people is not a good thing. Lending credence to their arguments by giving them a platform in which to project their hatred of gays/lesbians will set back progress for years to come.

I am waiting for the *other side* to stand up and voice their opinion. Where's Rev. Wallis? Where's Rev. Lowery? Where is OUR side on this issue?

[cliffordu]

6. I dunno. 15 people showed up at saddleback for the protest this week.

Fifteen.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

8. There are many progressive members of the clergy who should be speaking out.

I think they are too frightened to do so. I would like to see Rev. Jim Wallis out there speaking up on these issues. We are conceding this issue to the far right.

[cliffordu]

9. There needs to be MAJOR pushback on this entire issue.

The right owns the conversation at this point and the slobbering mongrel talking heads blithely and stupidly allow the hate to be spewed DAILY without question.

Disgusting.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

22. No one in the so-called "librul media" is paying attention to the views of

Rev. Lowery who is for extending civil rights to gays/lesbians. As a youngster, I grew up in his church (Cascade United Methodist Church), and there wasn't the hatred or the vitriol about gays/lesbians. It was a very progressive church. Sadly, I believe these progressive voices are being marginalized and ignored by the M$M.

[SuperTrouper]

31. Of course, the MSM is performing fellatio on the Conservatives like the loyal whores that they are

[Neecy]

11. oh my god...

That was his CHRISTMAS message????

[AtomicKitten]

13. The Pope does, in fact, shit in the woods.

pass it on

[cliffordu]

15. LOL. I'll bet he shits the throne, too.....

Special place in his hell for haters.

Like him.

[AtomicKitten]

18. He definitely creeps me out.

[Starry Messenger]

24. Oh awesome.

Talk about "There's Something about Mary." Is that hair gel? }(

[cliffordu]

27. LOL.

[Phx_Dem]

28. LOL! Best post I've read all day.

[AtomicKitten]

41. ;)

[Teaser]

14. Only comment necessary:

[alwysdrunk]

33. That's awesome. Why does the pope have throne anyway?

A gold plated one. Is he the king of something?

[cliffordu]

34. King of the pedophiles, patron saint of child molesters everywhere.

[Teaser]

35. technically, he is the head of state of Vatican City

for what it's worth.

All that's left of the formerly vast papal holdings.

[Malikshah]

40. I hate to say it, but you're wrong. It's more like

or

[Teaser]

42. Liberace was a Sith Lord

don't you know?

[Starry Messenger]

17. This new pope makes me so glad to be an ex-Catholic atheist.

I know the old Pope had disturbing views as well. But the new guy is totally lacking in anything I recognized as remotely redeeming in Catholicism.

[polichick]

23. Yet another religious con man. Control freaks, having nothing to do with Jesus.

[liam_laddie]

45. Cheers!

As a recovering Roman Catholic, I second your comment. My twelve-step program was to walk straight out of the "Church." Too much materialism. Unnecessary for "saving souls."
All the gold-encrusted crap is left over from centuries-ago marketing against Luther; the Counter-Reformation. The Baroque era churches in Germany especially are an example, breathtaking in a warped sort of art appreciation sense. Also, in the Middle Ages, before communication was not very available except by word-of-mouth/rumor/hearsay, the gilt was to impress the masses (no pun intended.)
The Curia is several decades, if not centuries, behind the times; just tryin' to maintain power.

[SuperTrouper]

25. Honestly, the only hope for the Catholic church is Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga

from Honduras, 65 years old, a Salesian by education, who is considered a reformer, liberal by Curia standards, who has advocated re-evaluation of Vatican II and allowing priests to marry and to unify the Church to welcome gays and lesbians...however, hell will freeze over before he is elected Pope...nonetheless, he is now considered to be in the Top 10 Papabile to succeed Benedict XVI

[Texasgal]

36. GROSS.

Utterly DISGUSTING!

[Zenlitened]

43. I'm dancing on his grave, and he ain't even dead yet.

The world will be a better place when this sanctimonious bigot finally makes his exit.

[salguine]

44. And, as past history shows, also provided by the church with a continuous supply of victims.

[TexasObserver]

46. the Pope is an international embarrassment

How anyone can believe this jerk speaks for God is a mystery.