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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:51 AM Original message |
Obama Wants a 'Surge' in Afghanistan? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. diplomacy and something like the Peace Corps in Afghanistan? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. You got something against... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Do you know who the Taliban are? They are the group who are going to kill little girls |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. the Peace Corp will put them in their place! |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yes, I do know who the Taliban are |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. nope |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
65. Where did anyone say that? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
89. you think the peace corp will remove them from power |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Something like the Peace Corps.. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 05:47 AM Response to Reply #93 |
97. like what? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
73. Maybe not... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. they are a small group of "natives" from that land. Do you know what the word 'Sharia' means? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. They're not much better than Nazi's in my book, they're cockroaches. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
68. Agreed |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
92. More war? I don't know. I don't have the answers. |
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Milspec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
113. War is never the answer. |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Get a history book... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. what does that matter now? |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. We armed the Mujaheddin |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
63. We knew who the Soviets were, but we allied with them to fight the Nazis |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
70. They are so much more... |
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27inCali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
75. I think Afghani's who are being tortured and beheaded |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. Lots of rumors floating, but I'm waiting for the real thing, and the |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
4. You want the Peace Corps in Afghanistan NOW? Were you paying attention during the Primary & GE? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Bombs and guns won't work in Afghanistan. Been there, done that. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Do you want to see what an unarmed Peace Corps worker would look like in Pushtanistan |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
9. I've heard they're going to follow the model of the Iraq surge |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Who said that? Odd, considering Obama didn't think the 'surge' in |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. He said it reduced the violence beyond "wildest expectations"but didn't meet the political needs |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. No one thinks the surge worked... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. It is our biggest problem |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I've read your 'woe is us' posts. As for me, I will wait until |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. He basically said part of it worked and part of it didn't |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
77. Why is it so many forget.. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Wrong. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. I don't think the surge strategy will work in Afghanistan. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. The difference is, the Russians (like the British before them) were |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
82. Aren't they mostly.. |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yup. Change I can believe in |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
33. It is a change, just not the change that pacifists wanted |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Nor is it the change the liberals wanted, the gays wanted... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Obama didn't run as a liberal, so why would anyone expect him to govern as one? |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I concede your point |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Whoever hailed him as "the salvation of the left" was either being deceitful or was simply not |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Mostly, I saw it here at DU |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
94. Not so fast there, slick: |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #94 |
106. He ran as a JFK-style liberal |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #94 |
107. He was not vague on Afghanistan. He was very clear that he was going to increase troops there |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Yep, but did he call it a surge? No |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. A surge by any other name... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. That single issue won him the election? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. That one issue certainly didn't stop many people from voting for him |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. It didn't help |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
84. You talk as if you just found out |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. Nope, I knew this about him last summer as well |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
13. Seriously wondering if anyone bothered to actually listen to Obama's speeches... |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yep, that's what I heard. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. That's what I heard as well. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. It was a major part of the debate. I think some people just ignored the election entirely. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
66. That's what I heard... and more importantly, apparently... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
72. I heard that |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
74. But what does that mean? |
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kas125 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
78. Just because he said it didn' t mean we agreed then or that we should |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. I did, and still. I'm not anti-war, I'm anti-stupidity |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
81. Agree .... he ALWAYS said this ... it is not a surprise. And he is right!! |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
90. i don't think anyone here listened to any of the speeches about anything. |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
15. I'll wait and see on this one. I'm very worried about Afghanistan. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
96. Um...because the U.S. isn't Russia? n/t |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
19. Maybe you should've paid more attention during the presidential race. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Well he made a big mistake |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. So what's your solution for protecting the Peace Corp... |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Give them flowers and puppies to hand out to the bad guys. That'll turn 'em! |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Don't forget the kittens. Kittehs can do wonders. That'll calm down |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
69. Well |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
25. The Peace Corps?? What, you want them to die? |
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
27. You just now hearing that? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
29. Here's a thought... HE'S DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO DURING THE CAMPAIGN |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Bingo!.. From day one of his campagin, he was focused on Afghanistan |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
103. Yep, he was very clear about it. nt |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
34. he's just doing what he's told. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
36. Afghanistan is a complicated battle, but putting in Peace Corps means lots of... |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. It doesn't have to be the Peace Corps. It could be an international effort |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. I totally agree... |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. I agree as well |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
71. Thanks, avaistheone |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
37. I actually believe that Bush was on the right track with invading Afghanistan after 9/11 |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
87. It was about the only thing he did get right |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
102. Well, he can't be a "war President" without having another "war" to fight |
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Balderdash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
41. In your other thread you said we shouldn't |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
61. The gay thing? |
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rollin74 (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. Peace Corps in Afghanistan? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
47. All year long he has said he wanted to add two brigades |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
48. Is this news? He has been saying this since 2007 at least |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
51. We will suffer the same fate as the old USSR |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Without a Marshall Plan |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
52. Where have you been the last year? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
55. He always has SAID this. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
62. I would like someone to explain to me... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
64. Where were you during his campaign? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
67. 'selling out' or 'has information the rest of us do not know about and he agrees with'? |
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Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
76. How dare you question Obama! |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. That's a liittle school-yardish, isn't it? |
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Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I think Afghanistan is a quagmire |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Bush didn't end it.. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
83. More of what same? We gave up on the Taliban almost immediately. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
88. He's been saying this since WAY before the election |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. That's EXACTLY what I was thinking!!! .. Where has the OP and the 6 people who rec'd this POS been ? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. When? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. here's a DU item from July 2007. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
98. "from all accounts?" Oh, you mean the hundreds of times he talked about this during the election. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
99. Afghanistan is not a good war |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
101. and the big money changers win again and again and again |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
105. He said this two years ago |
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