If Ivan has to hit somewhere, here's hoping it's Louisiana

[HFishbine]

[troublemaker]

1. Louisiana is better than at least ten other states

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[Mistress Quickly]

8. Yippee

destruction for people and higher gas prices for those already struggling in the "bushcorner-turned" economy.

Yippee, all for Kerry to maybe be elected President.

Yeehaw, fuck those cajuns in Louisiana anyway. What we need is us some bad economic news, then they'll vote for Kerry.


:eyes: :crazy:

[HFishbine]

Somebody's gonna get it

Just trying to find a bright spot.

[ewagner]

2. Actually

I hope Ivan just goes away.

I don't wish that kind of destruction on anybody, anywhere.

[deutsey]

4. Exactly

[HFishbine]

7. Er, yeah okay

maybe it will just "go away."

[Jack_Dawson]

3. New Orleans is below sea level

Is that a good place for a storm surge to hit? Actually it would wash the puke off Bourbon Street - you're right it might be good.

[hlthe2b]

14. Actually, New Orleans would be unlikely to survive a CAT 4 or 5

The series of flood walls will trap the water inside and goodbye New Orleans. So, I won't joke about it, though know what you meant...

[Dookus]

6. Let's not wish for that....

a direct hit on New Orleans could literally destroy the city. The French Quarter would be under 20 feet of water.

I love New Orleans - I want it around awhile longer.

[soothsayer]

9. C'mon, Marie Laveaux! Call on Yemaya to help you keep Ivan away!

Have him just weaken and go somewhere where he won't do any harm...!

[Wilber_Stool]

10. Don't forget

That area is a center for refineries and chemical manufacturing. Cover a chemical plant with twenty feet of water for a few days and you have an ecological catastrophe. The Gulf may never be the same.

[liberal N proud]

11. I pay a little more at the pump if it gets shrub out of DC

PERMANENTLY

[fishnfla]

18. The logic of the posters assumption is flawed

There's a silver lining benefit to the admin. They can blame the price of gas rising on Ivan, and the american public, ever understanding and generous in a tragedy, will give shrub a pass, maybe even a boost if he rides in there to save the day.

Worked for JEB! down here, everyone is gushing over his performance in the press.

[WVhill]

23. Would you pay double the current pump price?

[GumboYaYa]

12. that is uncalled for.

thanks for wishing death and destruction on my friends and family. Geez, some things are more important than scoring political points. Your post is just disgusting.

[HFishbine]

13. I see

So another round of destruction for Florida would be palatable?

[GumboYaYa]

15. No and I'm certainly not "hoping" for that

as you are "hoping" that LA gets hit.

My hope is that the storm weakens and hits the least populated area possible. I am in no way hoping that it destroys the oil platforms as that will also mean it destroys lots of real people's lives.

[HFishbine]

20. You ignore

the qualifyer in my original post that prefaces my "hope."

[GumboYaYa]

22. The whole implication of your post is that you hope Ivan

does big time damage to LA. Sorry, but you don't get a pass on that one. That is as cold a statement as I would expect to hear from the worst of the Republicans.

If it has to hit somewhere hope it does as little damage as possibe.

Have you ever lived through a hurricane? Do you have any concept of what you are wishing for?

[Mick Knox]

21. Stupidest post ever award MEANT FOR ORIG POST

wheres the nomination button for that?

I have quite a bit of family in LA. Lets use brains; You dont wish that on any state over a political poll. Absolutely indefensible absurdity.

Edit: My post is meant for the orig post not this reply.

[fishnfla]

16. The politics of personal destruction at its lowest

Here's hoping it hits the lowest populated, most evacuated area. Here's hoping those on the oil rigs get out safe and have a job when the storm passes.

Pretty low blow Fishbine, pretty damned cheap and low. I'll give you a heads up, people in the path of that storm dont give two shits for your petty politics

[obnoxiousdrunk]

17. What a disgusting post ? eom

[WVhill]

19. Be careful what you wish for. You have no idea of the potential disaster,

A hurricane with sufficient strength that wipes out NO would have a high probability of changing the course of the Mississippi River. It would be the greatest disaster to hit the US. The studies indicate that all the pipelines would be washed out along with the other devastation. Besides higher gasoline prices, you can expect much higher natural gas and electricity prices especially in the Midwest and Northeast. Going into the winter you'd see an unimaginable amount of long lasting economic damage to this country from the after effects.

FWIW, a lot of our electrical capacity now relies on natural gas supplies. Without the gas fired units, you can count on extensive brownouts and possible electrical outages and grid failures if we have a hot summer the following year. You'd almost certainly see government mandated rationing for some commodities. Keep in mind we're already short refinery capacity in this country. I don't think you'd see a modest gas price increase. I think the potential would be for a multiplier of the current price. Think $3, $4 per gal gas or higher.

[HFishbine]

24. Look folks, all I'm trying to say is

That this hurricane is ferocious and it's going to hit somewhere on the gulf cost. Wishing for anything other than that is just fantasy. Now, given the inevitable, all I'm saying is that in addition to the destruction it will bring wherever it goes, if it has the additional effect of harming Bush's reelection chances it could actually serve some good.

The repukes have used Ivan as an excuse to put Nader on the ballot in Florida. I didn't just make up the notion that such a storm can have political consequences -- it can as we see in Florida. I'm just hoping that such consequences may benefit our side this time.

As for the people, cities and towns that will be effected, of course I hope and pray for their safety. I'm in no way hoping for personal harm. But if there is going to be destruction of property somewhere (and there is), if it results in a reminder of the insanity of our dependence on fossil fuels and also affects what appears to be a statistical corollary to Bush's popularity, then so be it. I apologize if I've offended anybody. That was certainly not my intention.

[enki23]

25. well, it would fall hardest on new orleans

which, of course, is the relatively-liberal center of louisiana (not to mention historical and cultural center.) and it won't do a damned thing to most of the heavily republican upstate areas.

you really sure about that?

[HFishbine]

27. You miss my point

It's not that disaster should befall the people of one polticial persuasion or another, but rather that if the operation of oil refineries is interrupted, there would be a political consequence.

[enki23]

34. what would those consequences be?

it would give bush an excuse to point to for rising oil prices, as he points to 9-11 to explain our massive deficit.

[Rowdyboy]

26. I've seen some pretty cold and heartless things posted on DU

but this wins, hands down, as the worst ever. Wishing destruction on on of the most beautiful, hospitable, and historical cities in the country just because you misguidedly think it might harm Bush? Christ...

[HFishbine]

28. Read for comprehension

Christ, quit putting words in my mouth.

[Rowdyboy]

29. I read for comprehension...In fact I read every word you have

written on this pathetic thread, hoping against hope to find some inkling that it wasn't what it seemed to be. I WANTED to think I had misjudged what you very clearly said.

Perhaps, rather than suggesting that I "read for comprehension", you should work on your writng skills so that you can make your point without insulting or pissing off everyone who reads your thread, especially the DUers of Louisiana.

[HFishbine]

30. Bone up then

Because I certaintly didn't write or even imply to a reasonable mind that I was "Wishing destruction on on of the most beautiful, hospitable, and historical cities in the country." Those were your words.

[henslee]

31. I've posted without thinking before but you are right, an awful thing to

say.

[chiburb]

32. HFishbine:

I think I write this as someone who rarely agreed with you in the primaries, and as someone who only glances at the majority of your current posts. That said...

I read your OP exactly as you're describing it's intent. That IF Ivan has to hit somewhere, MAYBE SOME political good can come of it. I was going to respond that yeah, why should Jeb and George get to exploit Florida for photo-ops anymore?

But after reading you getting slammed, I felt the need to post this instead:

It never ceases to amaze me how people's reading comprehension skills deteriorate as levels of fear or personal interest increase.

I get/got your OP and you have nothing to apologize for.

[theboss]

33. Why not hope that it peeters out or hits an unpopulated area?

Sure, let's hope it hits the place where it will cause the most death, destruction, hurt the entire economy, and cause an ecological catastrophe.

You know, I don't want Kerry to win that badly.

[chiburb]

36. Um... where did he say he DIDN'T hope it peters out?

He said this:

"If Ivan has to hit somewhere"

Like I said, people read what they want to read.

[quaoar]

35. All my brothers live near New Orleans

So pardon me if I don't find your wish too terribly amusing.

[Moloch]

37. Wow

I never knew of the correlation.

I hope the hurricane hits right here, in Lafayette, Louisiana...
Most of the oil industry is here and in Baton Rouge. A direct hit on the
New Orleans area could literally destroy the city, as it is below sea level.

It would economically devastate my state and people may die from the hurricane but that is a small price to pay for the tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths that would result from wars with Iran, Syria and North Korea.

[Parrcrow]

38. locking....

This is an inappropriate topic.