Janine Garofalo Hit The Nail On The Head

[QueenOfCalifornia]

On Keith Olbermann about the tea parties:

"Let's be very honest about what this is about. This is not about bashing Democrats. It's not about taxes. They have no idea what the Boston Tea party was about. They don't know their history at all. It's about hating a black man in the White House," she said on MSNBC's "The Countdown" with Keith Olbermann Thursday evening. "This is racism straight up and is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks. There is no way around that."

She went onto comparing the Tea Baggers with the KKK.

I believe she is right - this protest shit is nothing more than a bunch of ill informed racists who depend on Fox News for their daily IV loaded with hate.

[asdjrocky]

1. Here it is in a nutshell.

They are protesting because they lost. It's just that simple.

[Captain Hilts]

3. That's right. The anti-Clinton shit was just as bad. He was 'white trash' that crashed the party.

The right said rude things about his kid, about his mother - her husbands and her going to the racetrack.

Hillary was a man-hating harridan.

This is a repeat.

[NatBurner]

12. delete

screw it

i'm too pithy do do this back & forth w/u today

[EffieBlack]

39. This is much worse to them than Clinton

They may have seen the Clintons as white trash, but they were still white and, thus, did not upset what they view as the natural order of things.

Obama, on the other hand, represents something absolutely terrifying to them:an irreversible alteration in the white power structure that has always assured white Americans that no matter how wretched, how poor how ignorant, and yes, how trashy they may be, they were STILL superior to and had every right to look down on ANY black person.

The advent of President Obama has ripped from their grasp the one last social certainty these people could hang onto and they are both terrified and furious.

This is on a whole' nother level than the Clinton bashing.

[Liquorice]

69. I disagree. Republicans were horrendously brutal to the Clintons. It's the worst I've ever seen. nt

[graywarrior]

2. That's the way I see it.

[xchrom]

4. if hilary had rolled out the same -- they would have done the same.

does that detract from their racism -- no --

but hate for the democratic party is as big a motivator for them as their racism.

[Captain Hilts]

19. Yes, there are racists, but they hated Clinton, Gore, Kerry too. nt

[empyreanisles]

5. Big kisses for JG. Ahh, I am smitten. :)

[RufusEarl]

6. It's hate, plain and simple. That's what they do best, they have nothing to offer so they hate..

Peace!

[KittyWampus]

7. Her name is Janeane. Does she EVER wash and comb her hair. And as usual she ends up being

wrong.

No, this is about losing.

If it'd been Hillary or any other Democrat who won, they'd be lashing out in the same idiotic way because their leaders use them like puppets.

Sure, for some the bitterness is exacerbated by the fact Obama is black.

[Bluenorthwest]

9. Why the personal attack?

Janeane's hair gets paid big dollar to look like that. What does your just so look bring to the table? How does your blow out help the Democratic Party?
I just do not understand the need to insult those with whom you disagree. And I agree with the brilliant artist with the messy hair.

[KittyWampus]

22. I just keep my hair clean and tidy. No blow-out or attempts to play edgy-urban, " I'm so hip"

crap you claim she spends big bucks for.

But then I don't have anything to prove or any insecurities to patch over. And I'm not a public speaker.

But then, getting back to what she says and how she says it as opposed to making a simple observation on the way she packages herself as a public person:

Janeane has always ended up sounding like the proto-typical, stereotype of an "elitist-Democrat" who delights in putting down the less educated Americans who get used as pawns.

She makes me cringe when I think some might get the impression she stands for the Left.

[Moochy]

29. Did I click on the Entertainment Tonight Comments Section by Mistake?

Her Hair? :eyes:

[Name removed]

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[gtar100]

72. Dufus, thems mighty hateful words. You sure you're in the right camp?

Just another fly-by-night hatemonger stopping by to remind us how awful and bitter a narrow mind can be.

[cbc5g]

14. +1

[Binka]

21. -1000000000000

[QueenOfCalifornia]

17. Sorry about the

misspelling of her name.

Her hair? This is not about her appearance - she does the "grunge" thing... not my taste but she doesn't look dirty to me.

She is damned correct. These rwers are pissed off that a black man is in "their WHITE house."

[xxqqqzme]

33. She also went another step farther

by stating her surprise that there were so many racists in the country. I've been lulled into this by thinking that electing a person of color has been an advancement. Intellectually I know that is not true but I want it to be so. Though I do believe Obama's election has served to marginalize the racists. Yesterday was their excuse to fly their racist flags under the guise of 'sanctioned' protest.

[olegramps]

79. Your personal attack on the lady puts you in the same camp.

[liberalmuse]

8. I completely agree with that assessment.

Tell it like it is, Janeane! I saw the pics and the signs: 'What you talkin' 'bout Willis?' and 'Homey Don't Play Dat', and that's just two amongst hundreds that cross that line. Motherfucking ugly, racist pigs.

Edited for the anal retentive.

[ailsagirl]

10. I've heard others say this and I think it's probably true, sadly

It's so disgusting, not to mention frightening

:puke:

[Extend a Hand]

11. I think it's more of a mixed bag.

They have their share of rushbot, racist hate mongers as was clearly evidenced by some of the protest signs. But there was also a contingent of Ayn Rand Liberterians that were pissed about the bank bailouts and the stimulus package, and a few groups of the abortion is murder supported by 'evil libruls' fundie nutbags.

[cbc5g]

13. Yes and the anti war protestors in 2003 were nothing but pot smoking hippies

I'm sure a few of them there are racist and KKK

[QueenOfCalifornia]

27. More than a few.

More like the majority.

Please do not compare protesting the murder of over a million Iraqis and the slaughter of our military to these nut cases. There is no comparison.

[Hepburn]

15. Yes, totally agree with her analysis....

...I watched her on KO and started applauding.

K&R...:hi:

[NYC_SKP]

16. But, but, Teabagging is a "Grass Roots" uprising of "Real Americans"

:rofl:

Janine is right, I :loveya: her.

And these asshats think they've adopted an Obama-mania-like popular uprising.

It is at once pathetic, scary, and funny.

:rofl:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

40. It's more like "Ass-Roots"

they are asses and have no claim to any real movement unless you count being a bunch of illiterate morans.

[ieoeja]

18. And just because I can't resist the urge to show that I *do* know my history.

And because nobody else posted it yet...

In response to an increased tea tax by a parliament that included no representatives from the colonies, the folks in New England decided to boycott tea. Waiting out the boycott would have hurt the East Indies Tea Company's bottom line. In response to their corporate masters, the British decided to force the colony to purchase the tea whether the colony wanted to or not.

The Boston Tea Party was in response to this force. It was not to protest the tax.

[Seeking Serenity]

20. I saw her "act" on KO last night, and I started getting annoyed.

It seemed like the underlying point of Keith's and her discussion was that criticism of the president, at least from the right, is, a fortiori, because of racism. It was confirming what I had feared prior to his inauguration, that is, liberals and Democrats would start viewing any and all criticism of President Obama as being racist. I just don't think we should go down that road because I fear that will only help to speed the loss of power and currency the word "racism" has. If the independent voters who helped elect Barack Obama but who may later object to some of his policies and positions suddenly discover that they are being branded as "racist" because of whatever opposition they may have, that could be a very real turn-off at a time when we need to solidifying their "hearts and minds."

Were there some subtle and not-so-subtle racist (or at least racially insensitive) messages at some of those assemblies? Sure. But I don't know that that made up the majority or even up to half of the protesters that day.

It is the same as when the right tried to smear the entire anti-war protests just because there were some Maoists, North Korea apologists, and "death-to-Israel" types in the crowd.

And then, when Garofalo started going off on her pseudo-"scientific" blather about how Republicans or conservatives in general are physiologically and neurologically defective, I wanted to scream! That was the most asinine crap I'd heard all day.

[DoBotherMe]

25. I agree

(and I LOVE George too!). It's the same group that hounded Clinton, the same group that wore those cruel purple heart bandaids...the sheep. And too those who are angered by the corporate bailouts and monies down that rathole. I'm angered by it, but there's no place for me to publicly vent, I would join a protest against TARP, et al. I won't join the tea protest, but others may have for a place to scream. Dana ; )

[QueenOfCalifornia]

30. You were annoyed by

two people pointing out what many see to be the truth.

They (republicans) are defective, I have proof... I just witnessed 8 fucking years of them and if that isn't defective, nothing is.... if that was the most asinine thing you heard all day then you missed Tom Delay talk about Texas Sovereignty.

[Seeking Serenity]

32. "They (republicans) are defective"

You can choose to believe that all you want, but JG was talking about it as if it were verified scientific fact.

That's just nonsense. DH is, sadly, a conservative (I love him anyway), and he's not defective as Garofalo was describing. Sorry. Just not.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

34. It sounded like

sarcasm to me.

But the sarcasm gene is sorely missing here a lot of the time. That's why we have to endure the dumb as sarcasm tag...

[Seeking Serenity]

35. It's hard to pick up no sarcasm on DU anymore without the smilie.

If you meant that Garofalo was being sarcastic, no, I did not get that at all. She sounded like she was dead serious and meaning to be taken seriously.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

42. Garofalo was clearly telling a joke.

Get over it.

[Seeking Serenity]

44. I didn't see or hear her laughing.

As a comedian, her act fell flat.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

45. It was a dead pan joke.

Maybe you should stick with Ron White and Larry the Cable Guy.

[Seeking Serenity]

46. I didn't see or hear KO laughing at her dead-pan humour.

He was conversing with her throughout as if she were dead-on serious.

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

64. Thank you. I have friends (YES FRIENDS) who do not care for Obama

and they do NOT hate black people. It's ridiculous to say that anyone who protests are criticizes Obama is a racist, IT IS RIDICULOUS!

[Chakab]

65. Unless your friends were standing in the street waving around

blatantly racist signs or spending a lot of time threatening Obama's life on the internet because they disagree with his politics, I don't think that any reasonable person would accuse them of being bigots simply because of the fact that they are not fond of Obama.

Yes, it's unfair and intellectually dishonest to chalk up any criticism of Obama to bigotry, but it's equally absurd to be accused of labeling everyone who is critical of Obama as a racist when you are pointing out the words and actions of actual racists who are making overt and unabashed displays of their bigotry.

[DrToast]

23. I want to know about her ties to torturers.

She's worked with Jack Bauer.

[Captain Hilts]

24. Comparing anti-tax zealots - they DO exist - to the KKK demeans the hate that the KKK represents. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. "anti-tax zealots"

Pff. As if they were really anti-tax.

:rofl:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

37. I think you

missed the point.

Check this out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5472612

[TexasObserver]

26. She knocked it out of the park.

[Cha]

31. I saw racist shit signs from DU pics..I'm wondering if the

excited corporatemedia showed any on tv?

There were some on DU who denied it was "racist", though.

[CakeGrrl]

36. She's on point.

What I find interesting is that there are so many cries of 'bullshit' when there are charges of racism leveled about attacks on Obama.

Maybe it's because some here don't want to defend their present and possibly future disagreements with Obama against having a racist bent, but that does not negate the clear expressions of racism in a lot of those protest signs.

There was one recent case of a serviceman who didn't want to serve under Obama; for a segment of the population who will never support him, it is exactly that. They don't want to be led by or take direction from a black man.

[Undercurrent]

38. The tie that binds

these teabaggers is hate.

If Hillary president that hate would manifest itself differently, but the core of hate would remain the same.

The fact that Obama is black definitely draws the race hatred part of the whole hate package to the surface.

Mark my words, this is a dangerous mix. Highly combustible.

[Phx_Dem]

41. Janine is extremely smart and it's very difficult to disagree with her

because she does her homework and always has the facts on her side.

She was spot-on last night.

[Raffi Ella]

43. I like her but Jeneane needs to realize We won.

This is about Democrats being in power; his skin color is just another tool in their arsenal against The Democratic Party -which appeals only to their base and will NEVER win them a national election again- The result? They come out looking even more like the fringe element that they now are.

We The People elected the Black Liberal Barack Obama - WE are the majority now. To boil the opposition down to nothing BUT race is weak and a major turn off.

In 8 years when all is said and done I don't want this to have been only about Barack Obama. We can't make that mistake. Jeneane IS making that mistake.

We need to keep getting Our message out, keep getting people registered to vote and then make sure they DO vote.

[firedupdem]

47. She is exactly right. This is exactly what this is about. A bunch

of rabid racist fucks that can't stand to see this man and his family in the white house. They are clueless about taxes or anything else. They follow fox's lead about taking back their government and roll with it. That's why you see all the signs about welfare, birth certificates, hussein etc. Fuck these mentally ill ignorant ass bigots.

[grantcart]

48. The massive sales of ammunition through out the country prove her arguement.

[cbc5g]

49. She's full of shit just like her character on 24

Yes they are hypocrites for doing it now instead of under Bush, but that doesn't make them racist. Of course a couple of them are, but the majority aren't.

The truth is, first off, your logic and hers is bullshit, but secondly the fact is they would have protested if it were Hillary or Kerry or anyone else for that matter. They have nothing left. Their last president was their "conservative" which turned out to be a socialist for the rich while increasing government size and power substantially.


Maybe instead of lobbing the "R" word around like it's fucking cake, we be serious when making the accusation.

[Lilyeye]

50. A couple of them are? You're truly naive.

[Raineyb]

54. A couple of them?

I think you have a counting problem. You don't seem to be very good at math at all.

Regards

[olegramps]

82. You must have been asleep during the campaign.

Just a couple of racists my ass. The Palin rallies were a disgrace to America.

[Political Tiger]

51. I agree with her.

I believe racism and other bigotries are the motivator for these Reich-wing hatemongers. It certainly isn't about taxes!

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[hileeopnyn8d]

53. You're funny

Were you trying to be? I'll eat my hat if you're truly a Democrat.

The ACORN part was a nice touch, but a dead giveway.

ETA - what's a "bed name"? You mean like queen, king, full, twin? Can I be king?

[Binka]

55. "people conflicting ideas demons and ax murderers."

Oh dear you are conflicted and afflicted. Did you forget to drink your cup of sanity today? Shame.

[hileeopnyn8d]

56. I'm glad

someone else got to read that gem of a post.

[TheFarseer]

57. I disagree

If Hillary Clinton or John Edwards were doing bailouts and Fox convinced them they were raising taxes, they would be equally mad. It is true however, that they don't know anything about history.

[burning rain]

58. I'd have been more measured and said.....

I think that the alienation Republicans and conservatives are trying to tap into and pump up here probably depends to some degree on Obama being black, just as the idea that during the presidential campaign, depite his having been exhaustively investigated, Republicans still kept coming out with that creepy "Who is Barack Obama?" line. But that's me. Conservatives would have been on the warpath had Hillary Clinton been elected president, sure, but I think it's pretty clear that they've portrayed Obama as even more alien than her.

[leftrightwingnut]

59. Janeane applied the razor.

I had been somewhat dumbfounded by the screwy, muddy reasoning behind the protests. When I heard her say this, it rang true with me.

[angee_is_mad]

60. Struck a cord w/me

but we are not allowed to talk about race on DU. Just wanted to warn you.

[Lilyeye]

61. Yeah since only a couple of the people were racist and racism is dead except for in the south.

:eyes:

[Blue_Tires]

62. k+r

great pic...i liked her a little better as a blonde...

[Honeycombe8]

63. I think she's wrong on this. Plus, she's kind of a nut case. On the good side....

she gets the freepers boiling made. On the bad side, it gives them a reason to rally together.

But I don't think the teabaggers were all about O's race, except maybe a few. I think it was Libertarians and Pubics who were having a tantrum about the "libruls" being in power. And trying to get their base aroused so they'll go to the polls next election. That's because the pubic party has been less than enthusiastic lately.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

68. I think she's right

and I think you may have missed a ton of threads proving her case.

[Liquorice]

70. Yeah she's wrong, and she reminded me a little of a democratic

version of Ann Coulter in that video. She was quite nasty and not funny. I agree that she will be a reason for freepers to rally. The problem is that those kinds of "rallying" people can become caricatures of themselves if they are not careful. I would hate for that to happen to Janeane because I've always liked her.

[ShortnFiery]

76. Yeah, JUST like Ann Coulter, she's calling for the death of people.

:crazy: :thumbsdown:

[ShortnFiery]

75. Yeah, we should always conduct ourselves so as not to anger those gutless assholes (Freepers).

Enjoy living in FEAR, but I'll take the beloved "nut case" before any "let's not anger the Freepers" personal any damn day. :eyes:

[BlooInBloo]

66. And everybody knows it.

[orleans]

71. my favorite line:

"there were tens of them"

i thought that was hysterical.

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[ShortnFiery]

74. WTF? BTW welcome to DU.

:crazy:

[NatBurner]

77. nice manifesto, Goebbels

not the best ever, but decent

[blueclown]

78. What would you like on your pizza? n/t

[olegramps]

83. Sounds like a lot of bull crap.

[olegramps]

80. Not all Republicans are racists, but all racists are Republican.

Kind of gives the Republican Party a bad name when they diligently seek their support and never condemn their ignorance.

[and-justice-for-all]

81. Spot on!! nt