When does the other shoe drop for Obama?

[Drunken Irishman]

Even I think this is getting ridiculous.

In early January, we heard Pres. Obama's approval was only temporary and that it would begin to slide once he took office.

Well he took office and it didn't.

Then they said he was going to have a honeymoon period and that in a month or so, it'd drop sharply.

Well February came and his numbers remained surprisingly consistent.

So they said it was the tail-end of this and once the grim economic news and stock market struggles became more clear -- remember, it was now Obama's recession and stock market -- the numbers would slide.

Well March came and his numbers were still strong as ever.

That's when people started saying the numbers would inevitably slide by late-spring, early-summer. I mean, that's when Pres. Clinton's disapproval rose above 50% in 1993 and he had a far smaller mess to cleanup than Pres. Obama.

Well now it's June and Pres. Obama's approval still hasn't dipped below 60%.

I'm not saying the other foot is even below 50% in a disapproval, since he's still 30-points away from that, but when will it hit the low 50s?

Did anyone really think in June 2009, after all we've seen economically and how much Pres. Obama has had to deal with, his approval ratings would still be in the 60s?

Like I said, this is getting ridiculous!

:o

[Oregone]

1. When he starts standinding for something

:)

[Drunken Irishman]

2. Yeah, that's true.

He hasn't stood for or done anything since taking office.

Explains why he's so popular, I guess.

[Oregone]

8. He is so popular because he makes inspiring speeches...

and works for "solutions" that appeal to both sides. But bipartisanship alone, for the sake of only being bipartisan, is void of any coherent ideology (hence, standing for nothing). When he starts to piss off one group or another by advocating policy that is beneficial for the public good, then you know he is standing for something. Standing for making everyone happy isn't exactly courageous and won't exactly rock the boat for the betterment of society.

Thats just my take. Ill agree to disagree before a hundred thread flame back

[cali]

18. actually, he does not work for solutions that appeal to both sides.

There have been multiple votes on legislation he backs where not a single repub in the House has voted for said legislation.

[dionysus]

22. don't let facts get into the way of their argument or anything...

[mkultra]

19. i respectfully disagree

while it is important to stand on principle, I also believe that when the rubber meets the road, its more important to get half than none. Some consider this week and void of fight, I consider it to be logical and wise.

[zipplewrath]

12. Well, taking out the snarky

Yes, saying he hasn't "stood for anything" is a bit of hypebole. But the larger point is basically true, and I suspect that even Obama would agree. So far he has mostly been continuing established policies, albeit with more of his style and imprint than just a carbon copy. But TARP and bailouts started before him and he just put new twists on it. He basically took a punt on the budget and let the old one fly. He announce the future end to alot of things like Iraq and Gitmo, but he hasn't actually done them yet. He's made ovetures on the diplomatic front, but he hasn't really advanced any major initiatives, yet. He did pass a major stimulus package, but that was a foregone conclusion in many ways, it was the details mostly that were different from either Bush or McCain, either one of them would have passed something.

But things are coming. He's going to be pushing for some health care package and as the details form, he'll piss someone off, although it will more likely be the left than the middle. Next January he'll have to make good on promises to close Gitmo, someone isn't going to like the plan. The war in Afghanistan better not take a turn for the worse. There better not be a major terrorist attack on a Navy ship or something. The next budget fight is coming. Sooner or later he'll have to actually move legislation forward that is uniquely his and not just warmed over products of his predicessor, and then he'll be pissing off people. He won't have the room to just go with the flow and avoid confrontation. There are more than some of us around here a bit suspicious that it will be folks on the far left more so than anyone right of center.

[lamp_shade]

4. He's just a useless do-nothing loser, isn't he? He ain't done squat.

:sarcasm:

[lamp_shade]

3. I remember hearing Chris Matthews saying that, like all President's before him, the party

will be over by Labor Day. Personally, I think not.

[Drunken Irishman]

5. So September.

It's possible.

That's more far out than most people were saying earlier. I think they were predicting a spring fall.

But I still don't see him falling below 50%.

And that would constitute a major drop of approval.

[SIMPLYB1980]

6. LoL! Good news, but if I were to take DU seriously,

he would have Dick Cheney approval numbers right now.

[ZombieHorde]

9. Do you believe you are focusing on the anti Obama posts more than the pro Obama posts?

[SIMPLYB1980]

13. That's my prerogative.

I read both and find the "anti" to be mostly just childish whining with only a few good points made. I also think, without doing any mathematical calculation, that the "anit" outnumbers the "pro" around here by about 70 to 30, which in no way represents the DEMOCRATIC party.

[ZombieHorde]

14. If you look at the list of threads under GD:P you will see very few anti-Obama threads. nt

[SIMPLYB1980]

15. A snap shot doesn't represent what I have seen lately, but

maybe it is getting better. I hope so.

[Arkana]

23. They're just louder and more insistent.

Christ, I have to keep reminding myself that this place isn't indicative of how the nation feels, because if it was he'd be more unpopular than Bush.

[Orangepeel]

7. it's already dropped. the high approval numbers are just the Bradley effect

:silly:

[Thrill]

10. Gas Prices. Are going to effect his ratings. He may need to at least

attempt to do something on that.

[demosincebirth]

16. I have to, moderately, agree.

[CreekDog]

11. To top the last dude, it would have to get flung

:think:

[depakid]

17. Two shoes are hanging there waiting

One of course is health care- which will be the biggest test of his life since the bar exam.

The second is the prospect for a double dip recession- and/or further failures/bailouts at the major banks.

I can see either one (or both) of those happening in the next year.

[laugle]

20. I think you

are talking about his personal approval, currently @ 63%. He is a very likable guy.

Today his policy approval is @ 48%, with a disapproval rating of 51%. The reality is, that these numbers will probably fluctuate greatly depending on his future accomplishments.......

[grantcart]

21. Well all of this is somewhat beside the point

He won't be running against a Democrat.


What Republican that he is running against could even get to 40% approval? None.


But that again misses the point.


The real question is what state could the Republicans pick up in the electoral college.


AZ pollsters say that without McCain AZ would go Democratic.


What state can the Republicans turn from Blue to Red.


Romney can take Michigan !!! Ha!!! No Republican will ever be able to take that state after the Republicans whined about the bailout.