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No Passaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 02:43 PM Original message |
WH shoots down talk of middle-class tax rise |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you, I'm going to link this |
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No Passaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I've seen those thread all over |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Republicans started it |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well obviously. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. KR&B. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. No idea, but it's being perpetuated right here on DU |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Well, Obama's appointed Treasury Secretary, for one... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I think it's pretty bad when a Democrat defines rich people as middle class |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. "Rich" is also a subjective term. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. that's one definition |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. As long as you realize that definitions vary...and they're frequently not based on quintiles. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. a definition that makes the rich into the middle class is wrong |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Geithner did it because he remembers Bush the Elder's dilemma. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I think they'll make it work without a middle class tax increase. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. and how far we have fallen because of Clinton |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. actually, it was people like you |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No, it was Geithner's and Sommer's weasely talk. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. seems pretty clear to me. Your reading things into his statements. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. No, the media is...but he left the door open for them. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. you cant always plan for the trappings of fools. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:07 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. He was directly asked if taxes were going to be raised on the middle class. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. except he ignored the question and pushed his own point |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. As I said, he COULD have just said "no" and avoided all of this. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. yes troll, he could have done better. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I expect that sort of comment from blind apologists. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. perhaps they will so that you and yours dont make something out of it |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. it's not a lie. It was started by Geithner and Summers |
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No Passaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. it's ok. now you know the deal. no need to defend your panic |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Actually it is a lie |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Geithner is not an economist. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:05 PM Original message |
people shouldnt assume a refusal at blanket statements means the negative |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. they are quoted in the article |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Tim Geithner was asked directly.. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. I don't think the middle class needs to pay for it |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
6. but does Obama really define "middle class" |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. ...and if you made $10k/year, you might support increases on those making over $60k. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. it so happens that I make about $14,000 a year |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I kinda answered this above. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Why shouldn't they? Median is the 'middle' by definition. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Let's just do this in one subthread... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Taxing the uber rich makes more sense than taxing families who make $250,000 |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. not really |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. Good. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Why? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. Debbielus and Progressoid might want to have a look-see. |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. They are probably just too concerned to go on. nt |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
36. Thanks for bringing this to light; there's so much concern and confusion |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
41. "Read my lips..." |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. The "read my lips" statement from Bush 41 was talking about no new taxes whatsoever. |
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Daylight (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Obama Said no new taxes on "anyone" making less than 250k in "any form". |
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Daylight (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. They passed a bill July 01 that will end up raising the cost of energy for everyone. |
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nod factor (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
44. Here's what I picked up |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
45. You mean the chicken littles were wrong again? |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
46. This was just about to turn into another media frenzy to take the focus |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
47. Good. That needed to be shot down ASAP. |
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solstice (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
48. They've already TALKED about raising them, though - unless taxing HEALTH INSURANCE |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. And cap and trade, and tobacco taxes.. |
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